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Message 13442 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 15:40:55 UTC

Fatal error: Call to undefined function show_button() in /home/boincadm/projects/dev/html/user/forum_thread.php on line 109
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Message 13443 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 17:28:33 UTC

Seems to be fixed now - although I'd reported it as trac [trac]#458[/trac] in the meantime.

While we're on the subject, the new "Send [private] message" button under the user name or avatar in the left-hand-column of the forum tables is either oversized or padded too far right: the edge of the button is not visible.
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Message 13444 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 17:32:15 UTC - in response to Message 13443.  

*looks at the new code modifications*

*explodes*

I give up.
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Message 13445 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 17:33:56 UTC

I like it.

But could do with a return to index button in the PM window. :)
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Message 13448 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 17:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 13444.  

I'll repost here (although devs rarely read these forums):

Buttons don't work in IE with Javascript off. I'm not sure an <a> around a button is even legal; so no wonder it didn't work on some browsers. Makes Firefox show two little dots at the sides too: it's the link underlining.

Using buttons for actions is The Right Thing, but they should use POST too, so both the onclick and the <a> should go away. Use a proper <form>. A GET must not have "side effects" (of course logging, counting visits, etc. don't count as side effects).

Also, the PM button below the avatar is too big and ugly. Looks out of place...

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Message 13449 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 17:58:51 UTC - in response to Message 13445.  

I like it.

But could do with a return to index button in the PM window. :)

Many other pages lack a way to go back. For example, edit forum preferences. There is no way to go back to Your account page, where you came from. On normal projects, you need to go back to the project main page, then click your account from there. Here it's even harder, since the BOINC front page has no quick link to these forums.
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Message 13450 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 18:07:08 UTC - in response to Message 13449.  

Here it's even harder, since the BOINC front page has no quick link to these forums.

Yes it does.

Other info

* Overview
* Software development
* Translation of web and GUI text
* Personnel and contributors
* BOINC email lists
* BOINC message boards
* Papers and talks on BOINC
* Logos and graphics
* Events

You just need to scroll down. :)
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Message 13453 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 18:21:50 UTC - in response to Message 13450.  

Here it's even harder, since the BOINC front page has no quick link to these forums.

Yes it does. You just need to scroll down. :)

And that's so comfortable... Let's see:

  • You click view or edit message board preferences and edit something.
  • You click Return to BOINC main page.
  • Look around, scroll down, look around some more, and notice the 'BOINC message boards' link that takes back here, and you click it.
  • You go back to Your account.

There should be a link back to "Your account" directly from the preferences edit page. And that goes for the general and project prefs too.


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Message 13456 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 18:29:13 UTC - in response to Message 13453.  
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Whilst bickerers and self-combusters have their say, may I humbly propose to change the Send Message Button to Send PM.... its sort of universally understood and when hovering it anyway is explained what it does and to whom.

Enjoy the sky, for tomorrow you might be looking down rather than up ;P

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Message 13457 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 18:38:51 UTC - in response to Message 13456.  

Enjoy the sky, for tomorrow you might be looking down rather than up ;P

Or be pushing up the daisies.
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Message 13458 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 18:51:27 UTC - in response to Message 13448.  


Also, the PM button below the avatar is too big and ugly. Looks out of place...

Agree. How about a "button" with just "PM" on it next to (after?) the name?

Or make "Send PM" a choice on the view_user.php page not next to each post.

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Message 13460 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 18:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 13458.  


Also, the PM button below the avatar is too big and ugly. Looks out of place...

Agree. How about a "button" with just "PM" on it next to (after?) the name?

I just noticed there is no line break. If the button text is shortened (or you make the font size really small), the Joined date shows on the same line.
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Message 13464 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 19:26:31 UTC - in response to Message 13460.  

I just noticed there is no line break. If the button text is shortened (or you make the font size really small), the Joined date shows on the same line.

How about a short "PM" button on the same line as the ID number?
Then it doesn't take up more vertical space. Make it an image, not an HTML button, so that it can have a clearly recognizable design.

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Message 13466 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 19:37:52 UTC - in response to Message 13460.  
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Sorry, but if I had the right of veto here (yes, I can hear you all saying 'We will make sure she never gets it!') I would veto PM meaning private message.

Of course regular forum posters understand PM. But acronyms are one of the reasons why new users and members get confused and sometimes give up. PM could even be understood as 'Send your complaint about boinc/anything to the Prime Minister'.

In a recent CPDN forum thread we had a protracted misunderstanding because we moderators used the acronym CCE and the BBC member didn't realise that this meant BBC Climate Change Experiment.
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Message 13468 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 19:40:51 UTC

Ok, little warning for everyone using PM. All presently unread PMs will stay unread until you check their checkbox and mark them as read. Much fun if you have lots of PMs still in the list as the Mark as read option is.... at the bottom only. ;-)
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Message 13470 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 20:06:33 UTC - in response to Message 13466.  

Sorry, but if I had the right of veto here (yes, I can hear you all saying 'We will make sure she never gets it!') I would veto PM meaning private message.


I agree. I like "PvtMsg" instead. See what I've set up on Pirates@Home (just the button placement, the functionality is not actually there yet.


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Message 13477 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 22:40:05 UTC - in response to Message 13443.  

Seems to be fixed now - although I'd reported it as trac [trac]#458[/trac] in the meantime.

While we're on the subject, the new "Send [private] message" button under the user name or avatar in the left-hand-column of the forum tables is either oversized or padded too far right: the edge of the button is not visible.

The SETI message boards now have this in the page source:

<!-- $Id: forum_thread.php 14023 2007-11-02 18:48:48Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: forum.inc 14023 2007-11-02 18:48:48Z davea $ -->

where this page has

<!-- $Id: forum_thread.php 14019 2007-11-01 23:04:39Z davea $ -->
<!-- $Id: forum.inc 14019 2007-11-01 23:04:39Z davea $ -->

1) The appearance of the message button is even worse with the SETI version than this version.

2) Would I be right in reading 14019 and 14023 as SVN changeset revision numbers? In which case, why is the latest update on the Server Updates page still stuck at 13964?
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Message 13478 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 22:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 13477.  

2) Would I be right in reading 14019 and 14023 as SVN changeset revision numbers? In which case, why is the latest update on the Server Updates page still stuck at 13964?

Yes, those are revision numbers.

ServerUpdates only lists "important" changes; it's possible that David will add the forum change to that page after it's somewhat stable.
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Message 13480 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 23:16:51 UTC - in response to Message 13478.  

it's possible that David will add the forum change to that page after it's somewhat stable.

And has all those buttons fixed in IE.
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Message 13482 - Posted: 2 Nov 2007, 23:24:14 UTC
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The PM button looks much to bold there, too inviting.

Fora (bulletin boards) often have tiny images like those three "+/- x" images - would be sufficient for a function that should't be used excessively.

p.s.: Input type "button" doesn't have a "title" attribute.

p.p.s.: While we're at it already ... what about captcha on the PM send :-)
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