http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

New Features:

* Grid based views.
* Advanced preferences dialog.
* Project list in the attach to project wizard.
* Improved Windows Vista compatibility.
* An Uninstaller is now included with the Macintosh BOINC Manager distribution.
* Support for x64 on Windows and Linux.

Notes:

· NOTE: BOINC may NOT start at startup if you are running Windows Defender (WinXP, WinXPx64, WinVista, WinVistax64). This issue should be resolved in a future version of BOINC. In order to have BOINC start automatically you'll need to install as a service. On Vista the user account will need to have administrative access to the system.

· See http://boinc.berkeley.edu/linuxx64.php for details on running BOINC on Linuxx64.

Thanks to everyone who tested and logged bugs in this release. We have another good release.

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5.8.16 is the best new version again, since 5.10.x showed problems.

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5.8.16 is the best new version again, since 5.10.x showed problems.

5.10.8 apparently ignores negative LTD values.

5.8.16 is the best new version again, since 5.10.x showed problems.

5.10.8 apparently ignores negative LTD values.

What behavior are you seeing? I've got two projects that have quite large LTDs and they haven't fetched work for a day or so now.

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Kathryn :o)

5.8.16 is the best new version again, since 5.10.x showed problems.

5.10.8 apparently ignores negative LTD values.

What behavior are you seeing? I've got two projects that have quite large LTDs and they haven't fetched work for a day or so now.

seeing in BOINCview a negative on 2 and 1 positive. 1 negative shows active, overworked and moves as does the positive, but second negative shows active, depleting and has not budged for as long as I've been watching it.

What projects? What are the values? Do the projects have work?

John McLeod recently made a post over at Lattice outlining when debts would and would not change.

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Kathryn :o)

Narrowed it down to the project (WCG) active and No Work Fetch. Setting Allow Work Fetch did make it move. It's odd as I think an active project, though no work permitted should deplete LTD. That was the whole purpose so I could build down CPDN from 1.4 million seconds credit.... think on this machine going to change the WCG weight to 0.001 and allow fetch.... if that would not cause it to move (very slow I suppose) I'd be surprised.

Added: Yes, a very low weight with work fetch on makes the LTD barely go down, but it does move.

Lattice? I'll seek it out but surely it's not listed here: http://distributedcomputing.info/projects.html

Ah, found and they use Homogeneous Redundancy at that.

http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/

*sigh*

I know I saw him post somewhere about how debts will adjust. But it obviously wasn't on lattice.

Too darn many forums to keep track of.

If you're really interested, I can email him.

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Kathryn :o)

The short version that is not entirely accurate: If a project could be downloading/crunching it's debt will change. If it is blocked for any reason the debt will not change (much).

Project requested defferals count as a block, the client not wanting work does not.

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BOINC WIKI

BOINCing since 2002/12/8

I'll ask him to write it down as dumb as possible. :)

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5.8.16 is the best new version again, since 5.10.x showed problems.

5.10.8 apparently ignores negative LTD values.

What behavior are you seeing? I've got two projects that have quite large LTDs and they haven't fetched work for a day or so now.

seeing in BOINCview a negative on 2 and 1 positive. 1 negative shows active, overworked and moves as does the positive, but second negative shows active, depleting and has not budged for as long as I've been watching it.

Depleting means that you have selected No New Tasks (or No New Work depending on the version) for that project. You have to allow work to be downloaded before this will change.

It depends on exactly how negative the Long Term Debt is. There are also some interdependencies.

If the LTD is greater than the negative of the task switch interval (defaults to 60 minutes), then work fetch is naturaly allowed. However, overworked means that the value is lower than that.

Now for the interdependencies. If a project is in deadline trouble, it will not be allowed ot fetch work. No sense in making a bad situation worse. If the queue is not full, then work will be fetched from someplace where it can be retrieved from - even if it would not normally be a candidate.

In any case, once work is downloaded to the machine, the client will do its best to get it returned on time.

What is your "Connect every X days" setting?

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BOINC WIKI

5.8.16 is the best new version again, since 5.10.x showed problems.

5.10.8 apparently ignores negative LTD values.

What behavior are you seeing? I've got two projects that have quite large LTDs and they haven't fetched work for a day or so now.

I had:
E@H with LTD= -300K one WU in progress
chess960 with LTD= -1K (Chess has intermittent work)
uFluids with LTD= +54K (uFluids has no work available)
Seti had LTD=+234K

I watched E@H download a second WU which then put it in EDF mode.
Chess periodically downloads 10 WU keeping it negative.

I think it might be an interaction with Keep additional N days

What is your "Connect every X days" setting?

I have connect every 2 + keep an additional 8
I had lots of seti work in the cache when it DLed the second E@H

Can we still use 5.10.7 for Windows which was released around 6-25-07 if we are not using Windows Defender but are using WinXP?? Another words, are their any issues other than listed in using this release??
Thanks for all your support
Sincerely,
Dan

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

New Features:

* Grid based views.
* Advanced preferences dialog.
* Project list in the attach to project wizard.
* Improved Windows Vista compatibility.
* An Uninstaller is now included with the Macintosh BOINC Manager distribution.
* Support for x64 on Windows and Linux.

Notes:

· NOTE: BOINC may NOT start at startup if you are running Windows Defender (WinXP, WinXPx64, WinVista, WinVistax64). This issue should be resolved in a future version of BOINC. In order to have BOINC start automatically you'll need to install as a service. On Vista the user account will need to have administrative access to the system.

· See http://boinc.berkeley.edu/linuxx64.php for details on running BOINC on Linuxx64.

Thanks to everyone who tested and logged bugs in this release. We have another good release.

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Can we still use 5.10.7 for Windows which was released around 6-25-07 if we are not using Windows Defender but are using WinXP?? Another words, are their any issues other than listed in using this release??
Thanks for all your support
Sincerely,
Dan

Dan, if you want the 5.10 features, you can grab 5.10.13 off this download page.

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Kathryn :o)

Thanks for the info...I guess I can assume the 5.10.x versions for Windows are stable enough as long as Windows Defender is NOT used.
Dan

Can we still use 5.10.7 for Windows which was released around 6-25-07 if we are not using Windows Defender but are using WinXP?? Another words, are their any issues other than listed in using this release??
Thanks for all your support
Sincerely,
Dan

Dan, if you want the 5.10 features, you can grab 5.10.13 off this download page.

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Thanks for the info...I guess I can assume the 5.10.x versions for Windows are stable enough as long as Windows Defender is NOT used.
Dan

I've not seen any reports of the explorer.exe crashing with 5.10.13. In fact, the alpha list has been quite quiet since .13 was released.

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Kathryn :o)

5.8.16 is the best new version again, since 5.10.x showed problems.

5.10.8 apparently ignores negative LTD values.

What behavior are you seeing? I've got two projects that have quite large LTDs and they haven't fetched work for a day or so now.

I had:
E@H with LTD= -300K one WU in progress
chess960 with LTD= -1K (Chess has intermittent work)
uFluids with LTD= +54K (uFluids has no work available)
Seti had LTD=+234K

I watched E@H download a second WU which then put it in EDF mode.
Chess periodically downloads 10 WU keeping it negative.

I think it might be an interaction with Keep additional N days

5.10.13 also has this behavior
E@H has LTD=-297K and downloaded one WU but there was 12 day gap

On time, i use BOINC Release 5.10.13 for 32bit and 64bit, but:
if i use the 64bit i got for einstei@home a error message sounds like
23.07.2007 07:10:38|Einstein@Home|Message from server: platform 'windows_x86_64' not found
The Problem hold on since beta BOINC 5.9.XX 64bit, and i wrote this also to einstein - threads.

The people of rosetta has no problems on 64bit (and SETI shows that their server on time down :-/)

Anyone have an idea to fix this?

On time, i use BOINC Release 5.10.13 for 32bit and 64bit, but:
if i use the 64bit i got for einstei@home a error message sounds like
23.07.2007 07:10:38|Einstein@Home|Message from server: platform 'windows_x86_64' not found
The Problem hold on since beta BOINC 5.9.XX 64bit, and i wrote this also to einstein - threads.

The people of rosetta has no problems on 64bit (and SETI shows that their server on time down :-/)

Anyone have an idea to fix this?

Nothing you can do about the Einstein issue. They need to upgrade their server software to take advantage of the alt platform with the 64 bit client.


Actually, if you construct an app_info.xml file and download all the needed files, you can run that way. You'll have to search the boards there for the exact files needed and the exact syntax of the app_info file.

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Kathryn :o)

*wow*
Thats the hart way
Thx for answer.
May, many people do upgrading to 5.10.13, and may be einsten will upgrade their server-soft (shortly).
i'm still waiting for that

*wow*
Thats the hart way
Thx for answer.
May, many people do upgrading to 5.10.13, and may be einsten will upgrade their server-soft (shortly).
i'm still waiting for that

Yeah. I haven't figured out the exact syntax for the app_info file. But then again, the only time I've used them is for the E@H beta tests. And then they came prepackaged with the beta science application. I should take a closer look at it and figure out what the general pattern is.

And yes, there are a lot of people waiting for some projects to upgrade their servers.

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Kathryn :o)