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Message 4506 - Posted: 26 May 2006, 18:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 4455.  

Have you checked the second link?

Just an update (going back a few posts) (re: the annoying balloon pop-up that stays a while when mouse passes by system tray BOINC Manager icon)
Yes, the first link works great (thanks!) when I gave up & just tried it - I was concerned that it would take away all hovering info (similar to Tool Tips), but it only took away the balloon pop-up (none of the other system tray items had a balloon pop-up). So hovering over BOINC Manager in the system tray now just shows "BOINC Manager" and not the balloon.
I'm happy with that. However I'd still suggest that it'd be on the wish list as an option for BOINC Manager as I'm sure many others have been somewhat annoyed with that balloon (and playing in the registry is not a solution, just a hack). But at least there is a work around.
ps: great to see other ideas mentioned!
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Message 4508 - Posted: 26 May 2006, 18:19:57 UTC - in response to Message 4506.  

Have you checked the second link?

Just an update (going back a few posts) (re: the annoying balloon pop-up that stays a while when mouse passes by system tray BOINC Manager icon)
Yes, the first link works great (thanks!) when I gave up & just tried it - I was concerned that it would take away all hovering info (similar to Tool Tips), but it only took away the balloon pop-up (none of the other system tray items had a balloon pop-up).

No, tool tips uses another registry entry to get rid of. :)

If you want your opinion heard by the developers, email to the Boinc developers email list. This list needs email registration.
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Message 4509 - Posted: 26 May 2006, 19:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 4508.  

If you want your opinion heard by the developers, email to the Boinc developers email list. This list needs email registration.

Ok, registered.
Is it better to send one suggestion at a time, or batch them?
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Message 4510 - Posted: 26 May 2006, 19:28:31 UTC - in response to Message 4509.  
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Go at a batch of them, if you have a batch. :)

But still keep adding to this list. I'll be weak and make it a sticky. :)
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Message 4517 - Posted: 27 May 2006, 0:09:12 UTC - in response to Message 4510.  

Go at a batch of them, if you have a batch. :)
But still keep adding to this list. I'll be weak and make it a sticky. :)

Great! & thanks! hopefully it will be a good sticky ;)
In any case (for everyone) if you want me to include something to the batch of suggestions for the Boinc developers email list, just post it here in this thread. (I'll send it out on Monday)
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Message 4518 - Posted: 27 May 2006, 2:43:59 UTC

People can send it out on their own, you know? ;)

But sure, get a lot together and let one person email it out. You got my vote. :)
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Message 4615 - Posted: 1 Jun 2006, 17:06:30 UTC

Just an update of what was posted so far.
So far had one reply from jm7
"The polling loop is one second. So, it goes into a state, and then one
second later is the first opportunity to change it. This has the
effect that a 1% CPU share will have the CPU off for 99 seconds followed by on
for 1 second (found this due to a bug in the initialization code which
has been fixed)."

[Suggestion were]
1) Add an option to disable the ballon pop-up in BOINC manager.
The pop-up balloon when going over the BOINC Manager icon in the system
tray is quite annoying as it often can stay for quite a while (I've
timed it to see it sometimes go up to 90 seconds) hiding windows below it.
But every 3 seconds can be too long for some.
Although there is a registry hack to remove it (it also has the
undesireable side effect of removing the balloon popup from other
apps).

2) CPU utilization option.
I noted from David Anderson on the Dev list "I added a "maximum CPU
usage" preference. If you set it to 50%, BOINC will use half your CPU time
(one second on, one second off). This feature will appear in the 5.5.1
client (which we'll start alpha testing soon). The BOINC alpha web site has
this new preference; it will appear on other sites when they upgrade their
PHP."
I am happy to see that this sorely missing capability is being added to
BOINC natively (instead of a hack).
Is there a reason why it is only 1 second cycle on/off instead of
something much faster (e.g. 1/200 of a second)?
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Message 4618 - Posted: 1 Jun 2006, 18:12:59 UTC

Any chance the CPU utilization will be configurable based on the computers idle state?


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Message 4626 - Posted: 2 Jun 2006, 19:21:40 UTC

Hi!

I would like to see possibility to download more packages on-demand.
My work PC stays on, but network in company is offline during weekend, so CPU stays idle when all work is done, and there is no possibility to download more or send results till monday.

Is this possible?

Wishes,
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Message 4629 - Posted: 2 Jun 2006, 19:58:41 UTC - in response to Message 4626.  
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Emil, if you go to your general preferences of the project you are on, you can set the connect to to a maximum of 10 days. This is your cache. The default setting is 0.1 days.

So for instance, if you are crunching Seti, you go to:
Your Seti Account;
View or Edit General Preferences
Edit preferences
Look for Connect to network about every
(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 0.1 days
and change this to a higher setting, say 3 days.
Save the changes with the "Update Preferences" button at the bottom of that page.

Then you open Boinc Manager.
Projects tab
Highlight Seti@Home (click on it)
Press Update

You will then download new work.

The above example is the same way on all projects. You can find links to Your Account from the main page of the project, or through Boinc Manager.

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Message 4640 - Posted: 3 Jun 2006, 14:02:21 UTC

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Message 4713 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 6:23:24 UTC - in response to Message 4615.  
Last modified: 14 Jun 2006, 6:30:51 UTC

Just an update of what was posted so far.
So far had one reply from jm7
"The polling loop is one second. So, it goes into a state, and then one
second later is the first opportunity to change it. This has the
effect that a 1% CPU share will have the CPU off for 99 seconds followed by on
for 1 second (found this due to a bug in the initialization code which
has been fixed)."

2) CPU utilization option.
I noted from David Anderson on the Dev list "I added a "maximum CPU
usage" preference. If you set it to 50%, BOINC will use half your CPU time
(one second on, one second off). This feature will appear in the 5.5.1
client (which we'll start alpha testing soon). The BOINC alpha web site has
this new preference; it will appear on other sites when they upgrade their
PHP."
I am happy to see that this sorely missing capability is being added to
BOINC natively (instead of a hack).
Is there a reason why it is only 1 second cycle on/off instead of
something much faster (e.g. 1/200 of a second)?


Cool, sounds like they're finally getting around to CPU utilization capping. That answers one of my questions... Now, can we combine CPU capping with "idle" time feature so that you can specify something like:

Always run at appx 50% CPU use (50% free for other user/system apps) until idle timer hits 2 minutes then 99% usage. So basically you'd have it always running a small percentage (not enough to bottle-neck your system), but once you hit your regular idle time limit it maxes to 99% usage until you get back, then goes back to its steady state of appx 50% usage. I think that would be handy way to maximize usage without bottlenecking.

Ohh, and if someone wanted to pass along to the developers the seed of an idea:
BOINC/Project Auto-Update options? I think this would be handy. So long as it's implemented right. IE, give users an option to ignore or disable automatic updates (or self-compile/self-install), notify but don't install, or fully automate the process. And include a dependency checker of some sort so you can'tdownload updated projects that require an updated client you don't have yet.

I just think this would be a nice way to streamline distribution and keep everyone up to date with the most current software version, project version, etc. A uniform API that all projects can use the same way would be good too. So, yeah, if someone thinks it's handy and wants to pass it along to the dev's, sounds good to me. :)
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Message 4715 - Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 13:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 4428.  

Two things I would like to see, both on the "Tasks" page:
(i) The different status descriptions be in a colour depending on what is happening to the task. For example, "Running" could be in green and "Preempted" in red.
(ii) The ability to sort on the project column (preferably automatically!). On switch on, the projects are all nicely sorted in alphabetical order. I currently run seven projects on my machine and within a few hours of starting, after downloading new tasks as work is processed, the page becomes distinctly untidy!
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Message 4827 - Posted: 23 Jun 2006, 8:22:07 UTC

Something that I would like to see added if possible.

A selectable option in one of the menus to report finished results immediatly upon completion of upload.
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Message 4828 - Posted: 23 Jun 2006, 10:53:10 UTC - in response to Message 4827.  

Something that I would like to see added if possible.

A selectable option in one of the menus to report finished results immediatly upon completion of upload.

They won't do this, as reporting is taking a lot of server overhead.

Read this thread on Seti which explains this in great detail.
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Message 4833 - Posted: 24 Jun 2006, 2:00:29 UTC - in response to Message 4828.  

Something that I would like to see added if possible.

A selectable option in one of the menus to report finished results immediatly upon completion of upload.

They won't do this, as reporting is taking a lot of server overhead.

Read this thread on Seti which explains this in great detail.


Thanks for the info, I withdraw my suggestion.

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Message 4860 - Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 21:45:57 UTC
Last modified: 28 Jun 2006, 21:47:00 UTC

i have some very noisy computers i would like to have run boinc. i also want to be able to have a conversation or sleep as an example.

"Do work only between the hours of" is a very nice option but i would like this option moved to the preferences for home/school/work.

then, i think, i can have different boinc-worktimes for every computer i have even if they are all on the same location.

this way i can run boinc allways on silent systems and run boinc on noisy systems when it does not disturb anyone.
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Message 4951 - Posted: 9 Jul 2006, 12:25:50 UTC

I'd like to see a tab that describes visually what the long-term debt is for any projects I'm running. Perhaps a simple bar graph showing each project either above or below the "line".
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Message 4972 - Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 20:41:20 UTC - in response to Message 4951.  
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I'd like to see a tab that describes visually what the long-term debt is for any projects I'm running. Perhaps a simple bar graph showing each project either above or below the "line".


I'd think a separate tab wouldn't be necessary, maybe an extra button under statistics (I'd assume this would be a statistic)?

Maybe something also saying what the next project to work on is scheduled to be and what the next project(s) to download arescheduled to be and how many WU's will be downloaded for each (or CPU seconds, asthe message screen likes to say)...

I'd think this would just be an internal thing to the manager, so there wouldn't be any server or communication overhead with it, yeah?
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Message 4992 - Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 0:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 4951.  
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I'd like to see a tab that describes visually what the long-term debt is for any projects I'm running. Perhaps a simple bar graph showing each project either above or below the "line".


Just the value in a new column in the project tab like in BoincView.

Andrew
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