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Message 12348 - Posted: 7 Sep 2007, 2:33:57 UTC

My preferences say only run projects when PC is inactive (I often use the client settings to say run all the time).

The Boinc Client on my XP PC (not the latest client) does not run projects when the PC is active. The Boinc Client (v5.10.13) on my Vista Home Premium Laptop runs projects all the time, even when the PC is active.

Has anyone else encountered this?

Also, it would be really useful if the settings (such as the number of CPUs and %age CPU to use) had a second setting, for when PC is in use. Thus I could set BOINC to use 60% of 2 CPUs when no mouse or kb activity, but only 30% of 1 CPU when the PC is in use.
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Message 12354 - Posted: 7 Sep 2007, 12:42:12 UTC - in response to Message 12348.  
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My preferences say only run projects when PC is inactive (I often use the client settings to say run all the time).

The Boinc Client on my XP PC (not the latest client) does not run projects when the PC is active. The Boinc Client (v5.10.13) on my Vista Home Premium Laptop runs projects all the time, even when the PC is active.

Has anyone else encountered this?

Also, it would be really useful if the settings (such as the number of CPUs and %age CPU to use) had a second setting, for when PC is in use. Thus I could set BOINC to use 60% of 2 CPUs when no mouse or kb activity, but only 30% of 1 CPU when the PC is in use.

How have you installed BOINC.... Single User, Shared or Service?

As for your special CPU needs, I doubt there is any application that uses all your cores at even load. Know Office Excel '07 has some multi-core abilities, that would only do it during calculations which are brief. The switching of percent and number of course though is very simple with 5.10. Open the advance view Advance menu 'local preferences' Processor section and set percent and cores. The crux is, there is no affinity assignment so it could happen the OS lets it run on core0 or core1 as it sees fit. The one thing you do achieve with 30% on 1 core is that more or less permanently you let the other 160-165% idle cycles go to waste (that is 360-365% on a quad). Of course you know that present BOINC throttle with 30% makes it run for 3 seconds and pause for 7... in that ratio.... no millisecond control, which many hope will come in a future release. It causes significant heat stresses if it is set to a percent that makes the ventilator go on and off.

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Message 12365 - Posted: 7 Sep 2007, 18:32:42 UTC - in response to Message 12348.  
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The Boinc Client (v5.10.13) on my Vista Home Premium Laptop runs projects all the time, even when the PC is active.


See previous thread on this subject (from May-Aug 07)

I've reported issue to Alpha mailing list, but issue still seems to be unresolved. No word that issue has been resolved.

I'm holding off installing BOINC on my Mom's new PC w/Vista till this issue is resolved.

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Message 12367 - Posted: 7 Sep 2007, 19:27:30 UTC - in response to Message 12365.  
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The Boinc Client (v5.10.13) on my Vista Home Premium Laptop runs projects all the time, even when the PC is active.


See previous thread on this subject (from May-Aug 07)

I've reported issue to Alpha mailing list, but issue still seems to be unresolved. No word that issue has been resolved.

I'm holding off installing BOINC on my Mom's new PC w/Vista till this issue is resolved.


The issue only seems to be on a service install. I just tried it on my single user install and it worked fine.

9/8/2007 4:25:23 AM||Suspending computation - user is active
9/8/2007 4:25:23 AM|DepSpid|[cpu_sched] Preempting spider_117851_0 (left in memory)
9/8/2007 4:25:23 AM|DepSpid|[cpu_sched] Preempting spider_117854_0 (left in memory)
9/8/2007 4:25:23 AM|sudoku|[cpu_sched] Preempting A0410192930_11__alpha8_0 (left in memory)
9/8/2007 4:25:23 AM|sudoku|[cpu_sched] Preempting A0410192843_11__alpha8_0 (left in memory)

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Message 12614 - Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 3:21:12 UTC

I can confirm this problem as well. Service install, doesn't matter if I run it as Local System or as a user with "Log on as a service" permissions. I was going around in circles for a while because I couldn't duplicate it on my home Vista unit, but, I'm running it as "Single User" and not Service Install.

There's a potential for quite a bit of lost CPU time here, I'm going to have to put these units on a schedule that bars crunching between business hours, instead of being able to crunch when the units are idle.
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Message 12619 - Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 4:03:16 UTC

You can't make BOINC use a certain amount of a core. When you make it use only one CPU, it actually means "run only one app at a time". That app will be using some of a core and some of another...
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Message 12649 - Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 17:36:42 UTC

Probably a service cannot monitor user activity due to the new security *cough* "features" in Vista.
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Message 12666 - Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 0:09:03 UTC

It is a part of the Vista security setup. All services run in desktop 0. The first user runs on desktop 1. Lower priority tasks cannot initiate communications with higher priority tasks without some serious help from the higher priority task.

Vista support will be addressed in BOINC v6.



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