CTRL-TAB doesn't work on the "Notices" tab.

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Message 93370 - Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 2:18:48 UTC

I'm using a broken laptop with no mouse and a cracked touchscreen, so I have to resort to the keyboard, and I noticed that although CTRL-TAB and CTRL-SHIFT-TAB mostly work, it gets 'stuck' on the Notices tab and doesn't respond. It's just a silly thing because there are other key combos to move around, but I thought I'd report it. Oh yes, and the "Report Bugs" link on https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/ doesn't work, either. I tried that first.
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Message 93374 - Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 9:24:27 UTC - in response to Message 93370.  

Oh yes, and the "Report Bugs" link on https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/ doesn't work, either. I tried that first.
"Report bugs" does work on https://boinc.berkeley.edu. Where did you get the extra /dev/ in your link form?

I'll have a look into the keyboard shortcut issue. Have you considered a cheap USB mouse?
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Message 93375 - Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 11:03:41 UTC
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Problem confirmed on the v7.16.3 Windows Manager currently in testing (and probably on every version since the Notices tab was introduced!). I'll see if I can find a missing keyboard handler from one of the other tabs.

Further detail: it's broken in v7.14.2 and v7.16.1 - but it seems to be fixed in a very recent (< 48 hours) test build. The cause of the change isn't obvious.
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Message 93376 - Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 12:22:04 UTC
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Bollocks. Forget everything I've just said. It's a LOT more subtle than that.

Starting on the Tasks tab, for example.

Pressing the TAB key repeatedly steps the focus forward from 'Show active tabs', via all enabled command buttons, to the task list, and then back to 'Show active tabs'. As you might expect.

Pressing Shift-TAB repeatedly steps the focus back round the same loop, until 'Show active tabs' - then it sets the focus on the tab label itself - and stops there.

Pressing Ctrl-TAB, starting with the focus on the tab name, cycles through all the tabs including Notices. If you start with the focus on one of the command buttons or the list control, it cycles through except Notices. If you reach Notices, movement stops there. As the thread title says. Argh.

Edit - all the above applies to Windows. Linux (Mint, based on Ubuntu) is different.

TAB and Shift-TAB both cycle the focus through all active controls, in both directions - including the tab name label.

But Ctrl-TAB doesn't shift between tabs.

I don't have a Mac to test.
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Message 93406 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 4:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 93374.  

The extra "dev" came from https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help where I followed the "Message Boards" link on the left.

You're close with the "USB mouse" suggestion, but it would have to be bluetooth. This was an early Asus Transformer, and they put the USB port on the keyboard, rather than the tablet. So when the keyboard fails to connect through the hinge plug, so does the USB. It was a horrible design, but the replacement - an updated model - has the USB moved to the tablet part. I guess they learned their lesson.
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Message 93409 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 7:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 93406.  

The extra "dev" came from https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help where I followed the "Message Boards" link on the left.
Thanks. I've edited the link at the foot of the help page, but I don't have access to the navigation bar - I'll have to pass that upstream.
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Message 93412 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 9:08:46 UTC

Workround for the presenting problem: you can navigate via the 'View' menu with Alt-V.
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Message 93413 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 9:29:23 UTC - in response to Message 93409.  

I don't have access to the nav bar either, that's a CSS file as far as I know.
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Message 93414 - Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 9:48:05 UTC - in response to Message 93413.  
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I don't have access to the nav bar either, that's a CSS file as far as I know.
The source describes it as a "generated-sidebar portlet".

	<div class="generated-sidebar portlet" id="p-Resources" role="navigation">
	<h3>Resources</h3>
		<div class='pBody'>
			<ul>
				<li id="n-BOINC-home"><a href="http://boinc.berkeley.edu" rel="nofollow">BOINC home</a></li>
				<li id="n-User-Manual"><a href="/wiki/User_manual">User Manual</a></li>
				<li id="n-Help"><a href="/wiki/BOINC_Help">Help</a></li>
				<li id="n-Download"><a href="http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php" rel="nofollow">download</a></li>
				<li id="n-Message-boards"><a href="http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/" rel="nofollow">Message boards</a></li>
				<li id="n-Web-sites"><a href="http://boinc.berkeley.edu/links.php" rel="nofollow">Web sites</a></li>
				<li id="n-Add-on-software"><a href="http://boinc.berkeley.edu/addons.php" rel="nofollow">Add-on software</a></li>
				<li id="n-Other-ways-to-help"><a href="/wiki/Other_ways_to_volunteer">Other ways to help</a></li>
			</ul>
		</div>
	</div>
Presumably it's edited through id="n-Message-boards" - there must be a list somewhere.
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Message 93431 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 1:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 93412.  

Thank you for attending to this, Richard, I did know about the other ways to navigate, that's why I said
It's just a silly thing because there are other key combos to move around,
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Message 93441 - Posted: 31 Oct 2019, 8:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 93431.  

I thought I'd post it to help the other readers who sometimes look over our shoulders while we sort things out here. And for readers who discover this thread in the future.
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