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Message 59172 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 10:32:11 UTC

So far, I have not found a way to check as to whether the graphic cards in my 3 PCs are participating in computing BOINC tasks or not.
Fact is, that in the preferences I have set to "Use the GPU ..."

I think to have seen a list somewhere, some time ago, where the graphic cards capable of BOINC computing were listed. Unfortunately, I don't find this list any more.
But I think that there must be a simple way to find out on each of my PCs as to whether the graphic adapter is computing BOINC tasks, right?

FYI, my three graphic cards are:
NVIDIA 8600 GTS (256MB DDR3)
ATI Radeon HD 5400 series (512MB DDR3)
Matrox Millenium P650 (not sure whether 64 oder 128MB, DDR)
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Message 59173 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 10:49:29 UTC - in response to Message 59172.  
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In Boinc Manager just look at the application name, if it says CAL, Cuda, OpenCL with Nvidia or ATI/AMD or Intel mentioned then it is a GPU task,
the status will also say if it's running on a GPU, and whether it's on a Nvidia, ATI/AMD or Intel GPU.

Or look at the 'Your computers' page at one of your project websites, hosts with GPUs will have a GPU named in the GPU column,
Now look at the list of tasks for a host with a GPU, again there should be mention of CAL, Cuda Or OpenCL along with mention of Nvidia or ATI/AMD or Intel GPU.

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Message 59176 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 11:37:15 UTC

Unfortunately, information on this page:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing

has shown me quickly that none of my graphic cards is able doing BOINC computing :-(
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Message 59178 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 11:47:43 UTC

If I were thinking of buying a new graphic card, with one eye on it's capibility to do a good job with BOINC computing, I guess a GeForce 750 would be a good choice, according to the following information

https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus

provided that I understand correctly that the figure under "compute capibility" is the higher the better.
Or am I wrong?
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Message 59179 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 11:50:19 UTC - in response to Message 59176.  
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Your AMD HD 5400 is CAL and OpenCL capable, as long as you have drivers from AMD installed: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
Your Nvidia 8600 GTS is CUDA and OpenCL 1.1 capable, as long as you have drivers from Nvidia installed: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
It may just be not getting work on the majority of projects because it lacks the minimum of 512MB of memory. Perhaps that it works on Collatz.

Your Matrox Millennium is a nice card to run 3 monitors from, but more than that, no. It can't do CAL, CUDA or OpenCL.
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Message 59180 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 12:04:40 UTC - in response to Message 59179.  

Thanks, Ageless, for the quick information.

What concerns the Matrox piece, it was sure a fine card when I compiled one of my first PCs many years ago :-) I am not surprised though that it does not come with all the things one needs for BOINC computing :-)

For the other two cards, the manufacturer's drivers are installed. Hence, they should obviously work (with the limitation mentioned by you regarding the only 256MB memory of the GeForce card).

What I have also found meanwhile out from the WorldCommunityGrid Homepage, they obviously have no projects running for GPU computing (unless I miss-interpret some of the information from their forum page).
Any quick hints as to "institutions" would offer projects for GPU computing?
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Message 59181 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 12:13:26 UTC - in response to Message 59180.  

WorldCommunityGrid used to have one or more GPU sub-projects, but last I read they were finished. Perhaps that more follow in the future, you can only know that by keeping tabs on their forums.

As for other BOINC projects that use AMD and Nvidia GPUs, you can check in the Add Projects wizard list, there it shows what hardware and operating systems the projects support. That same list with icons is found at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
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Message 59192 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 16:49:08 UTC - in response to Message 59173.  

In Boinc Manager just look at the application name, if it says CAL, Cuda, OpenCL with Nvidia or ATI/AMD or Intel mentioned then it is a GPU task,
the status will also say if it's running on a GPU, and whether it's on a Nvidia, ATI/AMD or Intel GPU.


Wouldn't it also be correct to say: If your computer has downloaded GPU tasks, then you have a BOINCable GPU? The projects won't send out tasks to machines that can't crunch them.
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Message 59199 - Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 18:29:08 UTC

Again my question:

If I were thinking of buying a new graphic card (basically, I prefer NVIDIA over AMD), with one eye on it's capibility to do a good job with BOINC computing, I guess a GeForce 750 (512 CUDA cores) would be a good choice, according to the following information

https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus

provided that I understand correctly that the figure under "compute capability" is the higher the better.
Or am I wrong?
Further: would there be a significant difference between the 1GB and the 2GB version for computing purposes?
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Message 59219 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015, 3:27:12 UTC - in response to Message 59172.  

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Message 59222 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015, 15:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 59219.  

NVIDIA 8600 GTS (256MB DDR3)

http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/gpu.py?fabricant=NVIDIA&type=GeForce+8+%288xxx%29+series&modele=GeForce+8600+GTS&tri=projet&sort=asc


On the PC with the NVIDIA card, I now have running the test application from the project "CPUGRID". Under Status it shows "active - 2 CPUs" - altough the settings are "use GPU if the computer is being used".
I fiddled around with the settings in various directions, but NO WAY to get the GPU to do computation instead of the CPU.


ATI Radeon HD 5400 series (512MB DDR3)
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/gpu.py?fabricant=ATI&type=HD+5000&modele=Radeon+HD+5450&tri=projet&sort=asc

On the PC with the ATI card, I have running two applications from the SETI@hompe project, but also here the CPU is doing the work, NOT the GPU.

How can I tell, in both cases, the program to use the GPU instead of the CPU?
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Message 59223 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015, 15:53:25 UTC - in response to Message 59222.  

How can I tell, in both cases, the program to use the GPU instead of the CPU?

Post your Boinc startup from the Event log, the first 30 lines from each host will do.

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Message 59224 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015, 17:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 59223.  

hi,

for the NVIDIA part:
I have copied the first part right from the startup after installation of version 7.2.47 three days ago, and then what was shown after I had chosen the GPUGRID project (instead the WCG project which does not offer any GPU tasks).
GPUGRID now runs a fairly large "test application for CPU", where the BOINC Manager under "Status" says "active - 2 CPU's". Too bad that I can's attach screenshots here.

FYI: below, where it says "28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | don't use GPU while active" - this I changed lateron in the Manager's preferences to read "Use GPU while computer is in use"

The eventlog for the the other host (ATI) will follow in a separate posting


28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.47 for windows_intelx86
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Data directory: D:\ProgramData\BOINC
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Running under account User
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600 GTS (driver version 311.06, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 1.1, 256MB, 190MB available, 139 GFLOPS peak)
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600 GTS (driver version 311.06, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 256MB, 190MB available, 139 GFLOPS peak)
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Host name: Ditech
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 6]
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00)
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Memory: 3.25 GB physical, 6.68 GB virtual
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Disk: 698.63 GB total, 51.89 GB free
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Local time is UTC +1 hours
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 593691; resource share 100
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 04-Dec-2014 20:27:56)
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | World Community Grid | Host location: none
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | World Community Grid | General prefs: using your defaults
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Reading preferences override file
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Preferences:
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | max memory usage when active: 2660.47MB
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | max memory usage when idle: 2826.74MB
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | max disk usage: 4.00GB
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | don't use GPU while active
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
28.12.2014 09:59:27 | | Not using a proxy
28.12.2014 09:59:54 | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
28.12.2014 10:01:11 | | Resuming computation
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01.01.2015 08:21:15 | | Fetching configuration file from http://www.gpugrid.net/get_project_config.php
01.01.2015 08:21:50 | GPUGRID | Master file download succeeded
01.01.2015 08:21:56 | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
01.01.2015 08:21:56 | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA
01.01.2015 08:22:01 | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
01.01.2015 08:22:03 | GPUGRID | Started download of mdrun-463-901-sse-32.exe
01.01.2015 08:22:03 | GPUGRID | Started download of libfftw3f-3.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:10 | GPUGRID | Finished download of libfftw3f-3.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:10 | GPUGRID | Started download of msvcp100.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:15 | GPUGRID | Finished download of mdrun-463-901-sse-32.exe
01.01.2015 08:22:15 | GPUGRID | Finished download of msvcp100.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:15 | GPUGRID | Started download of msvcr100.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:15 | GPUGRID | Started download of vcomp100.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:17 | GPUGRID | Finished download of vcomp100.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:17 | GPUGRID | Started download of 76691-MJHARVEY_CPUDHFR2-0-input
01.01.2015 08:22:22 | GPUGRID | Finished download of msvcr100.dll
01.01.2015 08:22:22 | GPUGRID | Started download of logogpugrid.png
01.01.2015 08:22:23 | GPUGRID | Finished download of logogpugrid.png
01.01.2015 08:22:23 | GPUGRID | Started download of project_1.png
01.01.2015 08:22:24 | GPUGRID | Finished download of project_1.png
01.01.2015 08:22:24 | GPUGRID | Started download of project_2.png
01.01.2015 08:22:26 | GPUGRID | Finished download of project_2.png
01.01.2015 08:22:26 | GPUGRID | Started download of project_3.png
01.01.2015 08:22:27 | GPUGRID | Finished download of project_3.png
01.01.2015 08:22:28 | GPUGRID | Finished download of 76691-MJHARVEY_CPUDHFR2-0-input
01.01.2015 08:22:28 | GPUGRID | Starting task 76691-MJHARVEY_CPUDHFR2-0-1-RND4612_0
01.01.2015 08:22:32 | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
01.01.2015 08:22:32 | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
01.01.2015 08:22:34 | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
01.01.2015 08:22:34 | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
01.01.2015 08:26:02 | GPUGRID | update requested by user
01.01.2015 08:26:04 | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
01.01.2015 08:26:04 | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | GPUGRID | General prefs: from GPUGRID (last modified 01-Jan-2015 08:22:45)
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | GPUGRID | Host location: none
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | GPUGRID | General prefs: using your defaults
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | | Reading preferences override file
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | | Preferences:
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | | max memory usage when active: 2660.47MB
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | | max memory usage when idle: 2826.74MB
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | | max disk usage: 4.00GB
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
01.01.2015 08:26:05 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
01.01.2015 08:26:41 | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
01.01.2015 08:26:41 | GPUGRID | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
01.01.2015 08:26:42 | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
01.01.2015 08:26:42 | GPUGRID | No tasks sent
01.01.2015 08:37:24 | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
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Message 59226 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015, 17:19:47 UTC - in response to Message 59223.  

here for the ATI host:

12/31/2014 7:08:35 PM | SETI@home | Master file download succeeded
12/31/2014 7:08:40 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
12/31/2014 7:08:40 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and ATI
12/31/2014 7:08:43 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
12/31/2014 7:08:43 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
12/31/2014 7:08:45 PM | SETI@home | Started download of arecibo_181.png
12/31/2014 7:08:45 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_40.png
12/31/2014 7:08:47 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of arecibo_181.png
12/31/2014 7:08:47 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_40.png
12/31/2014 7:08:47 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_banner_290.png
12/31/2014 7:08:47 PM | SETI@home | Started download of sah_ss_290.png
12/31/2014 7:08:50 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_ss_290.png
12/31/2014 7:08:50 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of sah_banner_290.png
12/31/2014 7:08:51 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
12/31/2014 7:09:01 PM | | Resuming computation
12/31/2014 7:13:29 PM | SETI@home | update requested by user
12/31/2014 7:13:30 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
12/31/2014 7:13:30 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | SETI@home | Not sending work - last request too recent: 290 sec
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 31-Dec-2014 19:12:36)
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | SETI@home | Host location: none
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: using your defaults
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | | Reading preferences override file
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | | Preferences:
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | | max memory usage when active: 3070.82MB
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 3070.82MB
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | | max disk usage: 5.00GB
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 35%
12/31/2014 7:13:32 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
12/31/2014 7:18:38 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
12/31/2014 7:18:38 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for ATI
12/31/2014 7:18:41 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
12/31/2014 7:18:44 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome_7.03_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe
12/31/2014 7:18:44 PM | SETI@home | Started download of MultiBeam_Kernels_r1831_windows_ati5.cl
12/31/2014 7:18:48 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of MultiBeam_Kernels_r1831_windows_ati5.cl
12/31/2014 7:18:48 PM | SETI@home | Started download of libfftw3f-3.dll
12/31/2014 7:18:51 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome_7.03_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati5_sah.exe
12/31/2014 7:18:51 PM | SETI@home | Started download of mb_cmdline-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:52 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of mb_cmdline-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:52 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_AUTHORS.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:53 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_AUTHORS.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:53 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_COPYING.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:55 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_COPYING.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:55 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_COPYRIGHT.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:56 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_COPYRIGHT.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:56 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_INSTALL.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:57 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_INSTALL.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:57 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_README.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:58 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_README.txt
12/31/2014 7:18:58 PM | SETI@home | Started download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_README_OPENCL.txt
12/31/2014 7:19:00 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of setiathome-7.03-opencl_ati5_sah_README_OPENCL.txt
12/31/2014 7:19:00 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.161
12/31/2014 7:19:03 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of libfftw3f-3.dll
12/31/2014 7:19:03 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.161
12/31/2014 7:19:03 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.228
12/31/2014 7:19:03 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.161_0
12/31/2014 7:19:07 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.228
12/31/2014 7:19:11 PM | SETI@home | Computation for task 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.161_0 finished
12/31/2014 7:19:11 PM | SETI@home | Output file 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.161_0_0 for task 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.161_0 absent
12/31/2014 7:19:11 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.228_1
12/31/2014 7:19:14 PM | SETI@home | Computation for task 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.228_1 finished
12/31/2014 7:19:14 PM | SETI@home | Output file 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.228_1_0 for task 26fe12ad.8880.22021.438086664202.12.228_1 absent
12/31/2014 7:19:55 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
12/31/2014 7:20:15 PM | | Resuming computation
12/31/2014 7:20:25 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
12/31/2014 7:20:55 PM | | Resuming computation
12/31/2014 7:21:25 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
12/31/2014 7:21:35 PM | | Resuming computation

maybe here the GPU is doing computation work?
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Message 59229 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015, 19:08:09 UTC

now comes the setback:
checking the status of my tasks on the SETI@Home homepage shows me "Error while computing" in all cases - after various lengths of running time - mostly just a few seconds. No idea what this now means (this is the computer with the ATI graphic card).
Something like this I had never before with tasks from World Community Grid which has only projects with CPU-only computing.
Maybe GPU computing is a very touchy thing which does not work well in many cases?
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Message 59239 - Posted: 1 Jan 2015, 21:30:46 UTC

The BIONICS Manager tells me that the ATI host has just finished 2 SETI@Home tasks (AstroPulse v7), and the status of those now shows "ready to report" - but for some 2 hours already? What's the problem? Why can the finished tasks not be reportet to the SETI@Home server? Anything going wrong?
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Message 59243 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015, 2:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 59239.  
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The BIONICS Manager tells me that the ATI host has just finished 2 SETI@Home tasks (AstroPulse v7), and the status of those now shows "ready to report" - but for some 2 hours already? What's the problem? Why can the finished tasks not be reportet to the SETI@Home server? Anything going wrong?

Work is reported at the next request for work from the project or in 24 hrs which ever comes first.

edit: Project info should be asked at the project forums.
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Message 59248 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015, 7:02:36 UTC

One thing I would check, is to make sure that you have the latest drivers for both your video cards, and one of the newer versions of BOINC.
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Message 59250 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015, 8:00:07 UTC - in response to Message 59248.  

One thing I would check, is to make sure that you have the latest drivers for both your video cards ...

"The latest" video driver is not always good advice.

In the specific case of the NVidia 8600 GTS running under Windows Vista, the latest driver currently available is 340.52, which is known to have an OpenCL bug: we're waiting for a promised hotfix.

Erish, don't upgrade the NVidia machine: what you have already is plenty good enough.
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Message 59252 - Posted: 2 Jan 2015, 10:35:29 UTC - in response to Message 59226.  

here for the ATI host:

Can you post the actual Boinc startup from the Event log please, While I've found your host on Seti, and can see that all GPU tasks are erroring,
what I can't see fully is what Boinc is actually detecting for the ATI/AMD drivers:

Computer 7467315

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