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Message 15928 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 2:43:11 UTC

We just got off DST.

Interesting log on BOINC:

15/03/2008 23:53:21|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:54:26|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:55:29|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:56:29|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:57:30|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:58:31|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:59:41|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:00:50|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:01:52|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:02:58|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:04:04|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:05:11|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:06:14|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed
15/03/2008 23:07:23|PrimeGrid|[task_debug] result psp_sr2sieve_2282124_0 checkpointed


Hmm I think I already lived this hour. Deja vu!
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Message 15929 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 3:05:08 UTC - in response to Message 15928.  

Hmm I think I already lived this hour. Deja vu!


Time travel????

:-)
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Message 15936 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 12:05:17 UTC

I love S. Korea. None of this stupid time switching stuff.
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Message 15938 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 12:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 15936.  

I love S. Korea. None of this stupid time switching stuff.

Uhuh, so the sun comes up at 5am... nice.
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Message 15942 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 13:09:51 UTC - in response to Message 15938.  

I love S. Korea. None of this stupid time switching stuff.

Uhuh, so the sun comes up at 5am... nice.


That's what curtains are for :)
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Message 15952 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 17:05:36 UTC - in response to Message 15941.  

Somewhere a post was made with a study of a limited area where DST in fact cost more energy, BUT, the scientist confirmed it's very much dependent on geographical location. Generally going to work in daylight is much better so we're fine since with DST starting March 30, most can set off in that still from around 06:00.... dusk already does not start until 18:15.... loved it anyhow and when living up north doing some outdoors till 22:00 is just great.

This was a totally retarded change by our new president. Energy crisis -> doing whatever to *hide* it. There's no way they can lower our energy usage *too* much more. Years pass, more electrical devices appear, energy usage increases. Get over it and go generate more.

Geographically, we're supposed to be at GMT-4. We have been at GMT-3 since I can remember. This DST change made us go to GMT-2 for three months.

I don't know if it made us save energy, but it surely caused problems for productivity country-wide: everyone is more tired (I heard it confirmed by doctors on TV). No matter what, people waited till the Sun wasn't visible before dinner. In some parts of the country, that meant dinner at 11 pm during the Retarded DST. Worst thing is, maybe now that we went back to sanity (sort of), people will still have dinner at 11 pm, because the hour change made everyone change habits. Means *more* electricity usage...

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Message 15999 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 16:15:32 UTC

This must mean you have the sun overhead at 1pm in winter and 2pm in summer. In Spain it's the same with really late mealtimes, worse still in summer. Children sometimes fall asleep at the dinner table and have to be carried to bed already asleep.
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Message 16000 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 18:06:08 UTC - in response to Message 15999.  

This must mean you have the sun overhead at 1pm in winter and 2pm in summer. In Spain it's the same with really late mealtimes, worse still in summer. Children sometimes fall asleep at the dinner table and have to be carried to bed already asleep.

No, means we had the sun overhead at 1pm for the last 10 years, except *this* one summer where we had it at 2pm.
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Message 16001 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 19:06:34 UTC - in response to Message 15952.  

This was a totally retarded change by our new president. Energy crisis -> doing whatever to *hide* it. There's no way they can lower our energy usage *too* much more. Years pass, more electrical devices appear, energy usage increases. Get over it and go generate more.

Geographically, we're supposed to be at GMT-4. We have been at GMT-3 since I can remember. This DST change made us go to GMT-2 for three months.


By the way, as if this mess wasn't enough, they decided to do this on December 21st, passed the law on December 26th, and published it on December 28th. And the day of the switch was December 30th. All Windows computers in the country had the wrong local time because Microsoft obviously had no time to send an upgrade (unless the user manually changed the clock, which is bad, as it makes the computer have the wrong global time). I had to do manually import a .reg posted on the 'net into my registry to add the timezone change.

I'm particularly worried about all the noobs who changed their computer clocks as if it was their alarm clocks. Computers keep date internally as an international time, and shift it some hours to show it to users. Here are just two possible consequences of changing the time manually:
- A BOINC project has workunits with 1-hour deadline. The user receives them "dead on arrival"; expired by the time they are downloaded. (Or if deadline is 2 hours, it gets reduced to 1 hour.)
- A website has a session timeout of 1 hour. It's reset on each operation, so it takes 1 hour of being *idle* to get logged out. User with bad clock logs in, and seconds later gets logged out, because of cookie expiration. As with the BOINC example, it's also possible that it has a timeout of 2 hours, and for that user it times out after only an hour.
- Windows XP automatically syncs time with a NTP server, and user gets pissed off that his manual (=wrong) time change keeps getting undone on its own. Blames Microsoft for it.

And I won't even start with possible problems about lost appointments on a calendar app...
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Message 16004 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 20:26:30 UTC


As your president has such a radical agenda, he could consider changing the name of the day of publication from el Dia de los Inocentes to el Dia de los Tontos or el Dia de los Autócratas.

I know there's incompetence everywhere, but this is incompetence on a grand scale. Has the press talked about it?


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Message 16005 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 20:59:27 UTC - in response to Message 16004.  
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I know there's incompetence everywhere, but this is incompetence on a grand scale. Has the press talked about it?


Venezuela changed their clock by 30 minutes, which some people consider quite stupid. But they spent 6 months getting people used to the new time, not to mention leaving enough time for software makers (like M$, or maintainers of tzdata packages for Linux) to adjust clocks for it. Here it was a one-day-to-the-other decision.

About the president... Our current president is the prior president's wife.

Voting fraud is suspected - and there are proofs (this video is from Al Jazeera International, those two people accepted to talk to the press because they were promised the interview wouldn't be broadcast within Argentina; but they didn't know how fast stuff moves on the Internet).
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Message 16008 - Posted: 19 Mar 2008, 23:06:13 UTC

Venezuela changed their clock by 30 minutes


What an extraordinary thing to do in a country whose southernmost tip is just a couple of degrees from the Equator. I'm no better at getting up in the morning than los Venezolanos, but I don't expect the nation's clocks to be reset in an attempt to disguise the fact.
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Message 16009 - Posted: 20 Mar 2008, 0:17:51 UTC

The film is also extraordinary. So blatant it's almost surreal.

But I don't think any country or culture has a monopoly of dishonesty or virtue. In different places corruption assumes different forms and takes a grip on different areas of life. I've seen plenty here and it eats into the heart of things.

Our current president is the prior president's wife


It would be even more extraordinary if that ever happened anywhere else in the world.
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