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Message 8458 - Posted: 27 Feb 2007, 15:47:28 UTC

New release, old problems:
By clicking on a link two instances of IE 6 are started. At least I understand that now: When you've already started an instance, it prevents the link to open in the same. But when nothing's open, there two instances after clicking on the link.
And I've still the same problem with BOINC + router (see BOINC Core Client - Trouble with router), but I don't think this is a BOINC problem.
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Message 8467 - Posted: 1 Mar 2007, 11:10:44 UTC - in response to Message 8458.
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New release, old problems:
By clicking on a link two instances of IE 6 are started. At least I understand that now: When you've already started an instance, it prevents the link to open in the same. But when nothing's open, there two instances after clicking on the link.
And I've still the same problem with BOINC + router (see BOINC Core Client - Trouble with router), but I don't think this is a BOINC problem.


Suggest to get a second browser like Firefox or Opera and make either your preferred browser. If the behavior continues, blame BOINC, if not blame MS. I think someone found a solution though for the double feature and posted on this forum

What router problem (?).... helps if you provide link.

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Message 8470 - Posted: 1 Mar 2007, 13:20:39 UTC - in response to Message 8467.


Suggest to get a second browser like Firefox or Opera and make either your preferred browser. If the behavior continues, blame BOINC, if not blame MS. I think someone found a solution though for the double feature and posted on this forum

What router problem (?).... helps if you provide link.

I won't install another browser, cuz IE has always done a good job for me. And the IE6-BOINC-problem is a problem of BOINC. In all official BOINC releases before 5.8.8 the links worked fine with IE.

And here's the link to the router problem.
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Message 8471 - Posted: 1 Mar 2007, 13:44:12 UTC - in response to Message 8470.

And the IE6-BOINC-problem is a problem of BOINC.

Technically spoken, it's a libCurl problem, not a BOINC problem. It's libCurl that makes all connections for Boinc, inlcuding the internet connections under those buttons. For if you look in any of your account_*.xml files, you see that there's only one link under each of the buttons (under the tags).

The BOINC devs have already informed the people that make libCurl. And they are the ones that should fix this.
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Message 8472 - Posted: 1 Mar 2007, 18:09:00 UTC - in response to Message 8471.

Not sure what the technicality is, but opened IE7 (on WXP SP2), made it the default browser, opened BOINC 5.8.15 operated the "Website" button and only 1 instance was opened. Now the virtues of IE6 v IE7.... whatever bad language one can waste on this product, it is definitely more save than browsing with IE6.
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Message 8473 - Posted: 1 Mar 2007, 20:17:39 UTC - in response to Message 8472.

whatever bad language one can waste on this product, it is definitely more save than browsing with IE6.

Yes, but he is using Windows 2000, which can't get IE7. One needs WinXP for that.
And to completely change an OS to get another IE to work with Boinc is going a bit too far. ;)
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Message 9360 - Posted: 5 Apr 2007, 12:59:34 UTC

The problem with two instances of Internet Explorer 6 is still there in BOINC 5.8.16 :(
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Message 9362 - Posted: 5 Apr 2007, 13:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 9360.

The problem with two instances of Internet Explorer 6 is still there in BOINC 5.8.16 :(



If you look back a couple posts in the thread, it's not a problem with BOINC. It's a problem with the version of libCurl that is used. The libCurl programmers have been informed.
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Message 9371 - Posted: 5 Apr 2007, 15:38:07 UTC - in response to Message 9362.

The problem with two instances of Internet Explorer 6 is still there in BOINC 5.8.16 :(

If you look back a couple posts in the thread, it's not a problem with BOINC. It's a problem with the version of libCurl that is used. The libCurl programmers have been informed.

Yes, of course. But it could have been that the libCurl-problem was fixed and the new solution was built in in BOINC 5.8.16 ...
btw: Is there any overview of the changes between the 5.8.x releases, like the one of 5.4.x?
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Message 9373 - Posted: 5 Apr 2007, 15:41:41 UTC - in response to Message 9371.

btw: Is there any overview of the changes between the 5.8.x releases, like the one of 5.4.x?



Change log that I'm keeping updated from Rom's emails to the alpha list.
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Message 9383 - Posted: 5 Apr 2007, 20:32:30 UTC

Hmm I thought I had posted this before.

I don't think libcurl has anything to do with opening browser windows. Libcurl is used to do HTTP communication from within the client, like for scheduler requests, downloads, uploads, etc. I think browser windows are opened by the library that the manager GUI is made with: wxWidgets.

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Message 9386 - Posted: 5 Apr 2007, 22:27:10 UTC - in response to Message 9383.

Hmm I thought I had posted this before.

I don't think libcurl has anything to do with opening browser windows. Libcurl is used to do HTTP communication from within the client, like for scheduler requests, downloads, uploads, etc.

And what do you think will open an HTTP window to a browser?

Please go check for libcurl:
and I quote:
libcurl is a free and easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library, supporting FTP, FTPS, HTTP, HTTPS, SCP, SFTP, TFTP, TELNET, DICT, FILE and LDAP. libcurl supports SSL certificates, HTTP POST, HTTP PUT, FTP uploading, HTTP form based upload, proxies, cookies, user+password authentication (Basic, Digest, NTLM, Negotiate, Kerberos4), file transfer resume, http proxy tunneling and more!

libcurl is highly portable, it builds and works identically on numerous platforms, including Solaris, NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin, HPUX, IRIX, AIX, Tru64, Linux, UnixWare, HURD, Windows, Amiga, OS/2, BeOs, Mac OS X, Ultrix, QNX, OpenVMS, RISC OS, Novell NetWare, DOS and more...


Whereas your WxWidgets say:
wxWidgets lets developers create applications for Win32, Mac OS X, GTK+, X11, Motif, WinCE, and more using one codebase. It can be used from languages such as C++, Python, Perl, and C#/.NET. Unlike other cross-platform toolkits, wxWidgets applications look and feel native. This is because wxWidgets uses the platform's own native controls rather than emulating them. It's also extensive, free, open-source, and mature.

So WxWidgets is nice for making your wallpaper look AWESOME. It won't communicate. OK?

OK... (On the "it won't communicate" part: Sounds like one Renderfarm Admin that I emailed 3 (!!) times over 6 months requesting what the feck his project was about so I could put it in my FAQs... I never got an answer.)
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Message 9390 - Posted: 5 Apr 2007, 23:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 9386.
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Hmm I thought I had posted this before.

I don't think libcurl has anything to do with opening browser windows. Libcurl is used to do HTTP communication from within the client, like for scheduler requests, downloads, uploads, etc.

And what do you think will open an HTTP window to a browser?


Something OS-specific (or a cross-platform wrapper - read below). You can communicate via HTTP without needing a browser installed. Browsers have their own implementations of HTTP, that doesn't mean an HTTP implementation can open browsers (or render HTML).

Please go check for libcurl:
and I quote:


I have made my own programs with libcurl, I know what it is.

Whereas your WxWidgets say:
wxWidgets lets developers create applications for Win32, Mac OS X, GTK+, X11, Motif, WinCE, and more using one codebase. It can be used from languages such as C++, Python, Perl, and C#/.NET. Unlike other cross-platform toolkits, wxWidgets applications look and feel native. This is because wxWidgets uses the platform's own native controls rather than emulating them. It's also extensive, free, open-source, and mature.

So WxWidgets is nice for making your wallpaper look AWESOME. It won't communicate. OK?


Hmm how is that related to a wallpaper? wxWidgets is what BOINC uses to do everything on the manager. If they used Windows API or Mac's Aqua API, it wouldn't be cross-platform. wxWidgets is basically a wrapper for the OS libraries to handle windows, controls, and more. The author of the program doesn't need to do anything to make it work on other operating systems. Works in terms of GTK for the Linux version, apparently.

No it won't communicate. But one of its thousand functions will start your OS-defined default browser. The browser will then communicate, or whatever.

EDIT: There we go. wxLaunchDefaultBrowser from wxWidgets manual. The part of the BOINC code using it is boinc/clientgui/hyperlink.cpp line 174. In turn, that wxHyperLink::ExecuteLink method is called from CBOINCBaseFrame::ExecuteBrowserLink on boinc/clientgui/BOINCBaseFrame.cpp line 503. ExecuteBrowserLink is called from many places from the manager.

OK... (On the "it won't communicate" part: Sounds like one Renderfarm Admin that I emailed 3 (!!) times over 6 months requesting what the feck his project was about so I could put it in my FAQs... I never got an answer.)


Leave it off the FAQ then, I won't cry for not being there.

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Message 9393 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 7:31:29 UTC - in response to Message 9373.
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btw: Is there any overview of the changes between the 5.8.x releases, like the one of 5.4.x?



Change log that I'm keeping updated from Rom's emails to the alpha list.


That's a great sticky addition Kathryn.

On 5.8.15 and passing instructions from the BOINCmgr.exe to BOINC.exe in Windows shortcut during startup. I have set for daily contact of 1 hour, network activity per scheduling preference. Wanted to flush the result files none the less immediately. Since recently hitting the Update button in BOINCmgr, opens the line for 5 minutes and sends all in the Transfer Queue off. The question is: Should the command-line instruction C:ProgrammiBOINCboincmgr.exe "/b, --report_results_imediately"
achieve the same, but than whenever a result is done. Though there are no reports of syntactical errors, the sending is not taking effect. Is this only meant to function one time on startup, with completed work in transfer queue?
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Message 9395 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 15:05:52 UTC - in response to Message 9393.

On 5.8.15 and passing instructions from the BOINCmgr.exe to BOINC.exe in Windows shortcut during startup. I have set for daily contact of 1 hour, network activity per scheduling preference. Wanted to flush the result files none the less immediately. Since recently hitting the Update button in BOINCmgr, opens the line for 5 minutes and sends all in the Transfer Queue off. The question is: Should the command-line instruction C:ProgrammiBOINCboincmgr.exe "/b, --report_results_imediately"
achieve the same, but than whenever a result is done. Though there are no reports of syntactical errors, the sending is not taking effect. Is this only meant to function one time on startup, with completed work in transfer queue?

It causes a lot more load on the server, I think the switch was disabled from working.

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Message 9396 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 16:21:32 UTC - in response to Message 9395.

Makes no sense.... if "Activity > Network Activity Always Available", the result files are send immediately anyway after each job, so what was the point than to disable?

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Message 9397 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 16:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 9396.

Makes no sense.... if "Activity > Network Activity Always Available", the result files are send immediately anyway after each job, so what was the point than to disable?

That setting was to disable *reporting* results immediately. File uploads are always uploaded immediately. Reporting results one by one as soon as they finish causes increased server load.

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Message 9398 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 17:56:15 UTC

Upload server is different than making database changes. When you upload that server keeps track of the files, but does not bring the database into the mix. When you open the database to report a result then it is a harder hit. It does not matter if you report 1 or 20, it will take about the same amount of time, and only be one database open, allowing more work to be done at a single moment, than over 20 different open and closes.

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Message 9399 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 18:41:58 UTC

Rom's blog post on RRI.

Site is down right now, but I had the link bookmarked.
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Message 9407 - Posted: 7 Apr 2007, 17:10:48 UTC - in response to Message 9399.

Rom's blog post on RRI.

Site is down right now, but I had the link bookmarked.


My confusion comes forth from language barriers.... 'Ready to Report' sits in the Tasks tab, where before a Result was perceived to mean the Data file one sees going out in the Transfer tab.... the Result. Propose to make the message in the Tasks tab unambiguous and add 1 word "Ready To Report Result"....could even consider "Ready to Report Result to Scheduler"

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