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| 1) Message boards : Questions and problems : Running on an SSD
Message 79747 Posted 24 Jul 2017 by Starhugger |
Hi HTH, Thanks very much for your reply. That's good to hear that the new SSDs are more resilient than what I was reading (no idea how old the article was). This computer is a very new model, a tiny form factor case about the size of a book, so the heat might just be a side effect of the model. I'll need to call the manufacturer and see what they say about it. I have 16GB of RAM which is twice what my old machine has, so hopefully there's plenty of room for everything, and I can snooze BOINC if I need to. I do find it helps to specify less than 100% maximum CPU time and memory. SH |
| 2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Running on an SSD
Message 79736 Posted 23 Jul 2017 by Starhugger |
I just bought a new computer that has a SSD instead of HDD. I was just reading somewhere that there is a limitation on read/writes to SSDs and that excessive activity (e.g. file shredding) can shorten the life of the SSD. ...Which made me wonder if BOINC might also be a problem?? :-( I've been running BOINC projects (SETI initially, now World Community Grid) for over 11 years and don't want to stop, but I don't want to wreck my SSD in the process either. Are there certain settings that are recommended for running on an SSD that will minimize the wear and tear? I've noticed that the machine seems to be running hotter than I expected too (judging by the temperature of the air coming out the rear exhaust), and wondered if BOINC activity might be raising the temperature as well. (It might also help to add my machine configuration: Windows 10 64-bit, i5-7500T CPU @ 2.70Ghz, 16GB RAM) Many thanks in advance for any help I can get about both concerns. |
| 3) Message boards : Questions and problems : No tasks??
Message 65373 Posted 11 Nov 2015 by Starhugger |
Thanks Jord. As I just posted (before I saw your reply), rebooting did seem to correct it. So far so good (knock wood ;-). Mind you, I had just done a Windows update before noticing the problem before, so simply rebooting didn't seem to do the trick. I'm now running 7.2.47, whereas I had been running 7.2.42. Anyway, I wanted to say thanks and leave the information here in case someone else has the same problem. FWIW I saw some reports (in the WCG forum) of the same problem of BOINC attempting to download 2 .png files, so this is more than just me. Maybe that's the lipcurl issue you mentioned. Thanks again! |
| 4) Message boards : Questions and problems : No tasks??
Message 65372 Posted 11 Nov 2015 by Starhugger |
Well, I don't know what caused it to run out a few days ago, but it seems all I needed was to reboot after updating the BOINC software. Running fine now (fingers crossed!). Thanks again. :-) |
| 5) Message boards : Questions and problems : No tasks??
Message 65370 Posted 11 Nov 2015 by Starhugger |
Okay, thanks Jord. :-) |
| 6) Message boards : Questions and problems : No tasks??
Message 65368 Posted 11 Nov 2015 by Starhugger |
I've let BOINC run with World Community Grid (WCG) projects for many years. I check the Manager occasionally to see that everything seems to be working okay and it almost always is. I just checked it today and found that there were NO tasks! None waiting and none running. ??? Usually there is at least one screenful of tasks waiting to be crunched, so this was a shock to say the least. It looks like the last upload was November 7th (it's the 11th now). I have 2 computers running BOINC - one running Vista that is also crunching WCG projects and it seems to be doing fine, with the expected number of tasks waiting patiently. The computer with no tasks runs on Windows 7 (with all the updates, except for that infernal Windows 10 upgrade nagware). Both machines run ESET as the anti-virus, so it can't be anything about an update to my antivirus. My firewall is my router, to which both machines are attached. I'm utterly at a loss to even know what to check to find what the problem is! But I'll try to describe what I'm seeing. Under the Transfers tab, it had said it was trying to download 2 files -- both .png files. ??? I aborted both downloads, then went to the Projects tab, selected World Community Grid (the only project listed, which is as expected) and clicked Update, but it seems it can't connect. It keeps deferring communication. I tried updating the software too, from 7.2.42 to 7.2.47. The only thing that changed was the icon in the System Tray, which now shows WCG's logo instead of BOINC's. What the heck happened? Any ideas? And how do I fix this? Many thanks in advance for any help with this. Let me know what information you need to help me diagnose and fix this. -------------------------------------------- I'll copy the log below, which will show activity since I updated BOINC. Maybe it will shed some light on the problem: -------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.47 for windows_x86_64 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Running under account Wendy 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 (driver version 10.18.14.4264, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1298MB, 1298MB available, 184 GFLOPS peak) 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 4.2.0.148, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 148)) 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Host name: user-PC 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes nx lm vmx tm2 pbe 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Memory: 7.88 GB physical, 15.76 GB virtual 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Disk: 465.66 GB total, 292.97 GB free 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Local time is UTC -5 hours 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Version change (7.2.42 -> 7.2.47) 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 2751875; resource share 200 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 19-Jan-2014 21:05:22) 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | World Community Grid | Computer location: home 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Reading preferences override file 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Preferences: 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | max memory usage when active: 3228.32MB 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 7263.72MB 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | max disk usage: 20.00GB 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | max CPUs used: 3 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | don't use GPU while active 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25% 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Found project_init.xml for http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ 11-Nov-2015 4:38:51 PM | | Not using a proxy 11-Nov-2015 4:38:54 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks 11-Nov-2015 4:38:54 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress 11-Nov-2015 4:39:26 PM | | Benchmark results: 11-Nov-2015 4:39:26 PM | | Number of CPUs: 3 11-Nov-2015 4:39:26 PM | | 3279 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 11-Nov-2015 4:39:26 PM | | 8852 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU 11-Nov-2015 4:39:27 PM | | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use 11-Nov-2015 4:44:12 PM | | Resuming GPU computation 11-Nov-2015 4:47:21 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy 11-Nov-2015 4:47:31 PM | | Resuming computation 11-Nov-2015 4:47:42 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy 11-Nov-2015 4:48:02 PM | | Resuming computation 11-Nov-2015 4:48:12 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy 11-Nov-2015 4:48:22 PM | | Resuming computation 11-Nov-2015 4:48:32 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy 11-Nov-2015 4:48:42 PM | | Resuming computation 11-Nov-2015 4:49:03 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy 11-Nov-2015 4:49:13 PM | | Resuming computation 11-Nov-2015 4:54:35 PM | | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use 11-Nov-2015 5:00:42 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy 11-Nov-2015 5:01:13 PM | | Resuming computation 11-Nov-2015 5:05:09 PM | World Community Grid | update requested by user 11-Nov-2015 5:05:11 PM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. 11-Nov-2015 5:05:11 PM | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and intel_gpu 11-Nov-2015 5:05:15 PM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request failed: Failed writing received data to disk/application 11-Nov-2015 5:05:18 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11-Nov-2015 5:05:22 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11-Nov-2015 5:07:02 PM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 11-Nov-2015 5:07:02 PM | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and intel_gpu 11-Nov-2015 5:07:03 PM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request failed: Unrecognized or bad HTTP Content or Transfer-Encoding 11-Nov-2015 5:07:07 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11-Nov-2015 5:07:08 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 11-Nov-2015 5:09:58 PM | | Running CPU benchmarks 11-Nov-2015 5:09:58 PM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress |
| 7) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48306 Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
Hi Claggy, thanks for the help. I'll put the startup messages below from when my 'puter was rebooted this morning, up to the point of restarting the various jobs and the one checkpoint that follows them. FYI: I just came back after being out for a couple of hours (everything was still running) and files are back in memory again, even though they're suspended. Edited: ...and in the few minutes since I put this post together, those files are suddenly gone from memory! =====EVENT LOG===== 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.28 for windows_intelx86 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Running under account Owner 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 7] 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Processor: 2.00 MB cache 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 nx lm tm2 pbe 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Home Premium x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (06.00.6002.00) 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 8.76 GB virtual 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Disk: 465.76 GB total, 244.95 GB free 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Local time is UTC -4 hours 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | No usable GPUs found 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 858508; resource share 200 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 11-Sep-2009 01:28:20) 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | World Community Grid | Host location: none 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | World Community Grid | General prefs: using your defaults 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Reading preferences override file 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Preferences: 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | max memory usage when active: 767.16MB 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 3068.64MB 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | max disk usage: 10.00GB 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | don't compute while active 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | don't use GPU while active 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 30 % 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager) 2013-03-21 11:22:06 AM | | Not using a proxy 2013-03-21 11:22:23 AM | | Suspending computation - initial delay 2013-03-21 11:22:23 AM | | Suspending network activity - computer is in use 2013-03-21 11:23:13 AM | | Resuming network activity 2013-03-21 11:24:06 AM | World Community Grid | Restarting task E212263... using cep2 version 640 in slot 1 2013-03-21 11:24:30 AM | World Community Grid | Restarting task faah38516... using faah version 715 in slot 0 2013-03-21 11:24:30 AM | World Community Grid | Restarting task faah38528sing faah version 715 in slot 3 2013-03-21 11:24:30 AM | World Community Grid | Restarting task GFAM using gfam version 612 in slot 2 2013-03-21 11:24:47 AM | World Community Grid | [checkpoint] result GFAM... checkpointed =============== |
| 8) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48303 Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
Everything checks out. The extension is xml (and I double-checked that this is the file I edited), and it's in the same directory as client_state.xml. |
| 9) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48301 Posted 21 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
Hmm... It seemed to be working for a while, but this morning it's back to keeping the files in memory again. I keep my computer running all night, and the log confirms that several checkpoints were done througout the night, the most recent being almost 4 minutes before processing was suspended due to computer activity. (I have the checkpoint set to 60 seconds at the most.) What's weird is that one of the jobs running (Clean Energy Project) hasn't been checkpointed. It has over 7 hours of processing having elapsed, with over 5 hours to go. It was last running on the 19th, which might have been before I added <checkpoint_debug>1</checkpoint_debug> to cc_config.xml. Perhaps I didn't do that correctly? I just rebooted (for unrelated reasons...as far as I know!) and those files are no longer showing in memory, although that doesn't mean they won't get stuck in memory again at some point. I have no explanation for how/why they got stuck there, apparently last night. But here's another weird thing: that one job that doesn't seem to want to checkpoint (Clean Energy Project) is now showing as only 36 minutes elapsed and 13 hours remaining. ??? I'm thinking maybe I should just abort that job; maybe it's a source of this problem. Does that sound like a good idea? I don't want to abort it if the majority of it really has been processed and if it's not the source of the problem. I'm at a loss as to what is going on here. Any other insights? Thank you! |
| 10) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48281 Posted 20 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
SekeRob2, thank you for the apology: accepted. :-) |
| 11) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48275 Posted 19 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
SekeRob2: Thanks for the information, although I could do without the (unsolicited and unnecessary) grammar lesson. My writing is fine, thank you. |
| 12) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48274 Posted 19 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
Ageless: Thanks very much for the suggestion. I'll watch to see if this changes now. |
| 13) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48269 Posted 19 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
I'm setting the preferences through the menu on the BOINC Manager window (that comes up when I double-click the system tray icon). I imagine that's at the local level, correct? If so, it should take precedence, from what you're saying. |
| 14) Message boards : Questions and problems : WCG files remain in memory
Message 48261 Posted 19 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
I have my computing preferences in BOINC set so that the box is UNchecked for "Leave applications in memory while suspended," and also unchecked for "Compuing allowed while computer is in use." Nevertheless the WCG (World Community Grid) files remain in memory, to the tune of around 200MB! I upgraded to the most recent BOINC version a couple of days ago (7.0.28) to be sure it wasn't a bug that had been fixed. I thought it was working okay after that, but now they're back again. Is there something else in the setup that's overriding my preferred settings? Another thing that's weird is that right now I have 7 files in memory, whereas I believe only 4 should be running at a time (and only 4 are showing as suspended under the Tasks tab). I'm running this on Vista (Service Pack 2) 32-bit with 4GB RAM. CPU is Intel Core2 Quad. I make sure everything is always upgraded. Any ideas what could be wrong? I run a lot of programs and 200MG takes a chunk out of the available memory. Thanks for the help! |
| 15) Message boards : Questions and problems : Throttle instead of suspend?
Message 48230 Posted 16 Mar 2013 by Starhugger |
Scripting is way over my head, but I've wondered the same thing. I'm fine (most of the time) for BOINC to run in the background using less CPUsage when I'm on the computer, and a higher percentage when I'm not. Is there a wish list of features somewhere that this could be added to? |
| 16) Message boards : Questions and problems : Keep losing automatic startup at reboot
Message 34077 Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Starhugger |
Okay, here's what I found. When I shut down BOINC separately and then reboot (with the box checked to start up on login), it *does* start up after it reboots. Then, following a hunch, I rebooted *without* shutting BOINC down first and lo and behold, it started up automatically after reboot! I think what happens is that if you change that setting, it needs to be shut down properly before rebooting; otherwise it doesn't hold the changed setting. I had been installing some stuff a while back, and I had shut off the automatic startup until after I had all the new installations done. But when I tried to change the setting back, I had only just rebooted (not shut BOINC down first), so it wasn't holding the changed-back setting. However, once the change is "solidified" by shutting down BOINC first with the changed setting, it seems to hold it even if you don't shut down BOINC first on subsequent reboots. (Does that make sense?) It's possible there might be some variations too (like just shutting down BOINC with the changed setting and then restarting BOINC manually without having to reboot). So the bottom line is: if you're going to change the setting, shut down BOINC separately before your next reboot, or else it won't hold the changed setting. Thanks Claggy for the tip about this! It wouldn't have occurred to me to check that. Starhugger |
| 17) Message boards : Questions and problems : Keep losing automatic startup at reboot
Message 34076 Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Starhugger |
Thanks for replying. No to Claggy, and Yes to Gundolf Jahn. Claggy, I'll try exiting properly this time and see what happens, and let you know. |
| 18) Message boards : Questions and problems : Keep losing automatic startup at reboot
Message 34067 Posted 5 Aug 2010 by Starhugger |
I'm still hoping for a response about this problem. If other visitors to this board don't know the answer to this, where can I submit a bug report? Thanks. |
| 19) Message boards : Questions and problems : Keep losing automatic startup at reboot
Message 34022 Posted 1 Aug 2010 by Starhugger |
I leave my computer on 24/7 most of the time, to allow BOINC to run, but occasionally need to reboot it. Although I have checked the checkbox in Options to "Run Manager at login" (many times), it keeps losing that setting when I reboot. I've had this problem before, though not for a long time, and I don't remember how it got resolved. Just in case, I just installed the latest version (6.10.58) and tested it by rebooting, but it's still losing the setting. I'm running this on Windows Vista Home Premium. It's driving me a little nuts because if I don't catch it when I reboot, I wind up leaving my computer on overnight for nothing (since BOINC isn't running). Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? Thanks in advance for help with this. |
| 20) Message boards : BOINC client : WCG project behaving strangely
Message 8030 Posted 6 Feb 2007 by Starhugger |
You'll probably be best off asking this over at WCG forums. Thanks Kathryn. I'll try there. Yes, according to Windows Task Manager this packet takes up around 200MB in memory! I don't remember what the Aids packets took up, but I don't remember seeing numbers like that. Thanks for replying. SH |
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