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1) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc manager display: uncorrect figures for advancement & elapsed time
Message 110723 Posted 14 Dec 2022 by Bill |
Hello Bill, thanks for your commitment1. I'm not familiar with M1 Mac, but if you don't see "GPU" under the status of the task, then it is likely a CPU task. It would be next to "running" or "ready to start". 2. Look under Options->"Computing preferences...", then click on the "disk and memory" tab, and it is towards the bottom. 3. I think I understand what you're saying, and that is the concern I have. If I hear you correctly, the tasks suspend when you move the mouse, but after the computer returns to an idle state (not moving the mouse), then the tasks suspend. Check the setting I pointed you to in #2 above. It should be enabled. If it is not enabled, please click the box and see if that fixes the problem. If it is already enabled, then we have more troubleshooting to do. A good start would be to know what project and tasks you are having these problems with. As Jord and Tenny pointed out, the checkpoint debug flag would help as well. Let us know if you need more help with getting the debug flag set up. |
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc manager display: uncorrect figures for advancement & elapsed time
Message 110601 Posted 1 Dec 2022 by Bill |
Here's a copy of my event log. A couple of questions: 1. Does this occur with CPU tasks, GPU tasks, or both? 2. Do you have "Leave non-GPU tasks in memory while suspended" enabled or disabled? 3. Do you notice the progress resetting with the BOINC Manager active? That is, it is the active window, and you're moving the mouse (causing activity)? Thank you! Bill |
3) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Looking for feedback - possible revision to preferences
Message 109493 Posted 4 Aug 2022 by Bill |
Hello, On the development side of BOINC, some of us are looking at making some changes to the settings. There are two parts to this that would change: 1. We are looking at adding settings for the amount of CPU cores used and percentage of CPU time that would be used in two cases: When the computer is in use and when it is not in use. 'In use' being the same definition as it is in the settings. Additionally, the setting for what percentage of non-BOINC CPU usage will now be able to have a different setting between in use and not in use as well. 2. The arrangement of the settings will be different. The rest of the settings will be still available, but in a different heading and location. For example, the settings above would be under a "when computer is in use" and "when computer is not in use" header. Other settings such as percentage of memory will be added under each of those headers, instead of under a disk and memory header. Of course, a picture tells the story a bit clearer. Here are some screen captures of what it will look like: Currently this is for web settings, but I think Advanced settings will follow the same form. I'm not sure if the settings for simple view would be affected, other than possibly adding CPU usage and time. Any kind feedback from the community, both positive and negative, would be appreciated. Thank you! Bill |
4) Message boards : GPUs : BOINC doesn't detect Vega 8 GPU in Ubuntu 20.04
Message 104064 Posted 22 Apr 2021 by Bill |
It is a shame that the AMD drivers are such a mess among the various generations of AMD cards. They do have the performance there . . . if you can get past the installation of working drivers.That is the shame, I thought the GPU, despite being modest, did a decent job of crunching MW@H GPU tasks. It was crunching E@H for awhile until the application needed more than 2GB of video memory, causing BSOD when the APU was in a Windows system. I can see if anyone on the E@H forums knows what to do, but judging by your response it is going to end up a dead end. I'm not sure I understand everything you've explained on a first read-through, but it has been helpful. Thank you! Pre-post edit: After doing a little more searching, it looks like someone found a solution, and even gave you credit, Keith! Take a look here. I think this is a little beyond my time and ability, so I'm going to pass on trying this. |
5) Message boards : GPUs : BOINC doesn't detect Vega 8 GPU in Ubuntu 20.04
Message 104062 Posted 22 Apr 2021 by Bill |
Ok, BOINC is still not detecting my GPU. I did install the most current drivers (revision 21.10 for Ubuntu), and I was able to restore 1080 for my resolution. I did install CLinfo, and this is the output I got: clinfo -A --always-all-props Number of platforms 1 Platform Name AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing Platform Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Platform Version OpenCL 2.1 AMD-APP (3224.4) Platform Profile FULL_PROFILE Platform Extensions cl_khr_icd cl_amd_event_callback cl_amd_offline_devices Platform Max metadata object keys (AMD) <gatherPlatformInfo:5: get CL_PLATFORM_MAX_KEYS_AMD : error -30> Platform Host timer resolution 1ns Platform Extensions function suffix AMD Platform Name AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing Number of devices 0 NULL platform behavior clGetPlatformInfo(NULL, CL_PLATFORM_NAME, ...) No platform clGetDeviceIDs(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL, ...) No platform clCreateContext(NULL, ...) [default] No platform clCreateContext(NULL, ...) [other] No platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_DEFAULT) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CPU) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_GPU) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ACCELERATOR) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_CUSTOM) No devices found in platform clCreateContextFromType(NULL, CL_DEVICE_TYPE_ALL) No devices found in platform I know I don't have any real understanding of what is going on, but what is BOINC looking for to detect the GPU? I would like to send AMD a bug report to push for drivers (even though it may be unlikely that they respond), but I want to at least provide some worthwhile information. |
6) Message boards : GPUs : BOINC doesn't detect Vega 8 GPU in Ubuntu 20.04
Message 104055 Posted 21 Apr 2021 by Bill |
Thanks for confirming it isn't just me missing something obvious. I was wondering if OpenCL drivers were not included. There is a installation page for the AMD GPU drivers, (here is the link). It looks like I can try to force it, and maybe it will work? I'll give that a shot, but I'm not hopeful. Even if OpenCL isn't set up right, how is BOINC detecting GPUs? Is it just based on OpenCL, or something else? I'm asking more out of curiousity. |
7) Message boards : GPUs : BOINC doesn't detect Vega 8 GPU in Ubuntu 20.04
Message 104035 Posted 21 Apr 2021 by Bill |
I upgraded the CPU in my daily driver, so I took the old CPU (Ryzen 3 2200G, which has integrated Vega 8 graphics) and put it into a new computer to run BOINC, with no discrete GPU. I decided to run the computer with Ubuntu 20.04. After installing Ubuntu, BOINC Manager, and the Costamagna ppa of the client (7.16.16), I noticed that I was not receiving any GPU tasks. I've done a little bit of research, but I still am stuck on what the problem is. Here is what I do know, though: 1. I added a start delay to the client (120 seconds), and that did not have any affect. 2. In the even log, all it says is no GPU detected. For those interested, here's the start of my log: Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:35 PM CDT | | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.16 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:35 PM CDT | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:35 PM CDT | | Libraries: libcurl/7.68.0 OpenSSL/1.1.1f zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.7 libidn2/2.2.0 libpsl/0.21.0 (+libidn2/2.2.0) libssh/0.9.3/openssl/zlib nghttp2/1.40.0 librtmp/2.3 Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:35 PM CDT | | Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:35 PM CDT | | No usable GPUs found Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:37 PM CDT | | libc: Ubuntu GLIBC 2.31-0ubuntu9.2 version 2.31 Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:37 PM CDT | | Host name: Bill-R3-Micro Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:37 PM CDT | | Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphics [Family 23 Model 17 Stepping 0] Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:37 PM CDT | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit wdt tce topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_llc mwaitx cpb hw_pstate sme ssbd sev ibpb vmmcall fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 rdseed adx smap clflushopt sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves clzero irperf xsaveerptr arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold avic v_vmsave_vmload vgif overflow_recov succor smca Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:37 PM CDT | | OS: Linux Ubuntu: Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS [5.8.0-50-generic|libc 2.31 (Ubuntu GLIBC 2.31-0ubuntu9.2)] Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:37 PM CDT | | Memory: 5.81 GB physical, 2.00 GB virtual Tue 20 Apr 2021 01:12:37 PM CDT | | Disk: 227.74 GB total, 205.26 GB free 3. From what I understand, Ubuntu is supposed to maintain up to date graphics drivers. Here is the output from two commands to check that they are installed (my understanding is that the output proves I have the right drivers? Please correct me if I'm wrong): dpkg -l | grep linux.*5\.8.*-generic ii linux-headers-5.8.0-43-generic 5.8.0-43.49~20.04.1 amd64 Linux kernel headers for version 5.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP ii linux-headers-5.8.0-50-generic 5.8.0-50.56~20.04.1 amd64 Linux kernel headers for version 5.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP ii linux-image-5.8.0-43-generic 5.8.0-43.49~20.04.1 amd64 Signed kernel image generic ii linux-image-5.8.0-50-generic 5.8.0-50.56~20.04.1 amd64 Signed kernel image generic ii linux-modules-5.8.0-43-generic 5.8.0-43.49~20.04.1 amd64 Linux kernel extra modules for version 5.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP ii linux-modules-5.8.0-50-generic 5.8.0-50.56~20.04.1 amd64 Linux kernel extra modules for version 5.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP ii linux-modules-extra-5.8.0-43-generic 5.8.0-43.49~20.04.1 amd64 Linux kernel extra modules for version 5.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP ii linux-modules-extra-5.8.0-50-generic 5.8.0-50.56~20.04.1 amd64 Linux kernel extra modules for version 5.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP sudo lshw -c video *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: Raven Ridge [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] (snip) version: c8 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm pciexpress msi msix vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=amdgpu latency=0 (snip) 4. I then saw that AMD had Ubuntu 20.04 drivers on their website. I tried installing the 20.20 drivers, but they didn't complete installation, error code 1. I uninstalled, then discovered there was a 20.45 driver. I tried installing that, and got the same error. Now after I uninstalled the drivers, I don't have 1080 resolution available anymore, just 720. I just set BOINC to NNT and I'll do a clean install to get back to square one. So, any idea what the problem can be? I thought it was interesting that the 20.20 and 20.45 drivers listed a lot of AMD GPUs, new and old, but I didn't see it mention that it was compatible with their integrated graphics CPUs. The GPU worked fine when I used it in my Windows computer a few weeks ago. I don't know if this problem is with Ubuntu, BOINC, or myself. Any help would be appreciated, thank you! |
8) Message boards : GPUs : RTX 3060 and CMP
Message 103103 Posted 19 Feb 2021 by Bill |
I see that Nvidia is going to nerf the performance of the 3060 if it is running algorithms for cryptocurrency, and that they are developing a Cryptocurrency Mining Processor (CMP) to be released later this year. Just curious if anyone with more knowledge than me knows if the 3060 is going to be crippled in BOINC (I'm guessing no, but maybe?). Also curious if these CMPs would be good for crunching BOINC as well. I thought I recall someone on the SETI message boards had a contact at NVidia when there was a driver problem. Perhaps they can contact that same person to get a better understanding of the situation? I'm mentioning it so the community could get ahead of a problem before it manifests with other 3060 users. |
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc is running, but I can't see anything in Boinc Manager (Ubuntu 18.04.5)
Message 100656 Posted 9 Sep 2020 by Bill |
Thanks for dumbing it down, Keith. I tried the command line you provided, once with "$(whoami)", the other with my actual user name. I do understand that Linux is very finicky with case sensitivity, so I made sure capitalization was correct. However, regardless of what I type for the usermod command, there is no output, and when I check the groups command, it still only says "boinc" and "video". Am I doing something wrong? PS - I feel like BOINC needs a forum group for "I'm using Linux for BOINC only, please help with my novice questions" forum. ;) |
10) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc is running, but I can't see anything in Boinc Manager (Ubuntu 18.04.5)
Message 100620 Posted 6 Sep 2020 by Bill |
You are running the service version of BOINC. The BOINC client runs in the boinc group and belongs to that group as well as the video group if you use the gpu.Got it. For the record, this laptop does not have any usable GPUs. Old Core 2 Duo. You will also need to add yourself to the boinc group in order for the Manager to connect:Sorry, I understand what you said, I don't know how to apply usermod here. I typed in the code line verabim at a command prompt, and nothing happened. I even tried it with my user name. You can check the users in the boinc group with:This is correct, boinc and video are the users for this group. I assume my user name should be in this list as well? Check your file permissions of the gui_rpc_auth.cfg file. It should have a 640 or 755 attribute. There should already be a softlink to the file in the /etc/boinc-client directory.I tried the commands you provided here, nothing happened, at least nothing I could observe. Here's where I'm really confused. I found the gui_rpc_auth.cfg file in two locations. One is in the etc/boinc-client folder as you mentioned. This has rw permissions for root, read-only for boinc, and no access for others. The second is in Home, with rw for the owner, read-only for my group, and none for other. I'm not sure what to do with that. Additionally, in the Home directory there are other boinc files, all_projects_list, client_state, coproc_info, etc. Shouldn't all those files be in a separate boinc directory, like in Windows? What I don't get is how this all happened. I don't touch this computer for anything, it just crunches all day. The only thing I literally do is check for Ubuntu and Boinc updates on occasion, and run those when available. |
11) Message boards : BOINC client : 7.16.11 available for testing for Windows and Macintosh
Message 100604 Posted 5 Sep 2020 by Bill |
Ok, I see what I did now. I did request an account over a year ago, I just had not used it. I found my password so now I have access to the account. I think I ignored the password earlier because I didn't understand it was linked to the alpha section of the Boinc website. Nothing in Dr. Anderson's email mentioned the alpha part of the Boinc website, and in my opinion, it isn't clear on the Alpha Instruction Wikitrac that you have to go there; it is first mentioned in a link under the "How to report test results" section. I think I was getting it confused with the Google Group for alpha testers, which I have been lurking this entire time, and is mentioned more frequently on that page. |
12) Message boards : BOINC client : 7.16.11 available for testing for Windows and Macintosh
Message 100596 Posted 4 Sep 2020 by Bill |
Ok, I see now. I haven't created an alpha account yet, but I did sign up for the alpha mailing list awhile ago. That was my confusion. For those that don't know, the main alpha page is here: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/alpha/. This does not appear to be linked on the main BOINC website. Also interesting, on that same page, I click on Create Account at the bottom of the page, and I get the error: "Unable to handle request This project has disabled account creation" So, I don't know for those that are new how they can participate in this. |
13) Message boards : BOINC client : 7.16.11 available for testing for Windows and Macintosh
Message 100589 Posted 4 Sep 2020 by Bill |
I seem to recall the alpha testing duration was rather short last time. Any idea how long we have to test before a final version is released? Also, when I click on the alpha test result link, it asks for my password. I assume this is the same login as for the BOINC message board, but it says I have an invalid password. Should I be using a different login? |
14) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc is running, but I can't see anything in Boinc Manager (Ubuntu 18.04.5)
Message 100574 Posted 3 Sep 2020 by Bill |
I'm running a laptop with Ubuntu 18.04.5 with the latest CostamagnaGianfranco version of BOINC. Its been working fine for a long time, but suddenly I haven't be able to see ANYTHING in BOINC manager. No tasks, no statistics, no disk usage. Its as if BOINC Manager is open, but no information is being displayed. The client is running, the laptop is warm. When I load BOINC Manager, it says: "BOINC Manager - Connection Error - gui_rpc_auth.cfg exists but can't be read. Check the file permissions." Additionally, when I try to quit out of boinc in the command window, I type 'boinccmd --quit', but I get back "Authorization failure: -155", which my limited research points to a permission problem as well. I'm a Linux noob, so any hand holding would be helpful. Thanks! |
15) Message boards : Questions and problems : Is it possible to disable applications in the app_config file?
Message 100541 Posted 1 Sep 2020 by Bill |
My uneducated guess is that Richard is correct. However, I will give it a shot...once I troubleshoot a MIlkyway problem I am having.Hmm. Hadn't thought of that :-)No, not that way. app_config.xml doesn't pass enough information back to the server about what work you can handle..As a matter of interest, why wouldn’t max_concurrent = 0 work? |
16) Message boards : Questions and problems : Is it possible to disable applications in the app_config file?
Message 100532 Posted 1 Sep 2020 by Bill |
I have several computers running Einstein@home. Conventional wisdom suggests that when you run this project to either choose the Gamma-ray or Gravitational Wave application, but not both. I know you can enable/disable running these projects in the project preferences for my account, but that only applies if the computer is classified as "home", "school", etc. All of my computers are designated for home (being factually correct). Although I could change the assignment of where they are located, that means I am following a (potentially) completely different set of parameters (CPU % usage, max ram usage, etc.) per computer. I suppose what I'm getting at is hypothetically speaking, if I had 20 computers, each running different projects, is there a way to cherry-pick which applications I want each computer to use? |
17) Message boards : GPUs : I can't get Intel HD Graphics 4000 to work on Ubuntu 18.04
Message 98535 Posted 16 May 2020 by Bill |
If the command lspci shows the intel GPU, then it might still work.When I type lspci, I get: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)So, something is there... I'm trying to install OpenCL for Intel, but either it didn't work or I didn't do it right. Any additional hand-holding on that front would be hepful. |
18) Message boards : GPUs : I can't get Intel HD Graphics 4000 to work on Ubuntu 18.04
Message 98308 Posted 3 May 2020 by Bill |
Does intel_gpu_top work? (Install Intel GPU tools)I don't think it does. I typed that in literally, and I got this output: (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Test assertion failure function intel_mmio_use_pci_bar, file ../../lib/intel_mmio.c:145: (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Failed assertion: !(error != 0) (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Last errno: 13, Permission denied (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Couldn't map MMIO region Stack trace: #0 [_init+0x7b87] #1 [_init+0x5420] #2 [_init+0xe85] #3 [__libc_start_main+0xe7] #4 [_init+0x1c92] Test (null) failed. **** DEBUG **** (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-chipset-DEBUG: Test requirement passed: pci_dev (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Test assertion failure function intel_mmio_use_pci_bar, file ../../lib/intel_mmio.c:145: (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Failed assertion: !(error != 0) (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Last errno: 13, Permission denied (intel_gpu_top:12236) intel-mmio-CRITICAL: Couldn't map MMIO region (intel_gpu_top:12236) igt-core-INFO: Stack trace: (intel_gpu_top:12236) igt-core-INFO: #0 [_init+0x7b87] (intel_gpu_top:12236) igt-core-INFO: #1 [_init+0x5420] (intel_gpu_top:12236) igt-core-INFO: #2 [_init+0xe85] (intel_gpu_top:12236) igt-core-INFO: #3 [__libc_start_main+0xe7] (intel_gpu_top:12236) igt-core-INFO: #4 [_init+0x1c92] **** END **** FAIL (-1.000s) I'm not sure what to do next. According to Intel's website:I looked in /dev/dri, and there is no renderD folder. To be clear, Boinc does not see my GPU at all, but I'm guessing by this output, Ubuntu is not seeing my GPU either (at least not more than a generic VGA driver). |
19) Message boards : GPUs : I can't get Intel HD Graphics 4000 to work on Ubuntu 18.04
Message 98107 Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Bill |
I recently have started using this computer for Boinc, running Einstein@home exclusively. It has an Intel i7-3612QM, which has integrated Intel HD Graphics 4000. For this computer, I changed the OS to Ubuntu 18.04 and then installed boinc (Costamagnagianfranco, currently on version 7.16.6). Anyway, Boinc is not detecting the HD Graphics 4000. The event log says "No usable GPUs found". I've done some searching online, and it appears that this Ivy Bridge chip should be recognized for GPU support, as long as OpenCL 1.2 is available (please correct me if I am wrong). I found Intel's support for OpenCL on Linux here, and literally, I ran these lines at terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:intel-opencl/intel-opencl sudo apt update sudo apt install intel-opencl-icd Still, no luck. What am I missing? I'm a casual Linux user. That is, I search online enough to get me going, so please forgive me if I ask a bunch of noob questions going forward. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! |
20) Message boards : Questions and problems : Ubuntu & Android BOINC Version Questions
Message 97564 Posted 14 Apr 2020 by Bill |
So I'm running 7.17 on two laptops with Ubuntu 18.04. What if I want to "downgrade" to 7.16.5? I downloaded the .sh file, and I'm not sure what to do. I also looked under Ubuntu software, and it says: Version: 7.16.5+dfsg+202002271434~ubuntu18.04.1 Updated: 3/19/2020 Source: lp_ppa_costamagnagianfranco_boinc-bionic-main That seems a bit contradictory to me. Anyway, I'd like to use the 'official' release for Linux to give it a test drive. Sorry, this is probably a simple question, but I only use Ubuntu to run Boinc on these few computers, and it is few and far between when I sit down and Ubuntu, so I really don't know how to navigate the OS at all. |
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