Posts by jochta

1) Message boards : BOINC Manager : I miss the old SETI@Home (Message 2515) Posted 11 Jan 2006 by jochta Post: Which is basically my point. Old SETI worked fine, BOINC doesn't. Therefore BOINC = backwards step IMO. Neither project wants participants to run the system on computers not owned by the participants. As others have said, use of BOINC or SETI@Home classic on a computer for which you do not have permission to run these programs is out of the bounds of intended use. Sigh. "You may use this software on a computer system only if you own the system or have the permission of the owner." I did have permission of the owner to run SETI classic, I do not have permission to run BOINC (because it requires opening of ports violating our security policies). Therefore SETI classic worked, BOINC doesn't. Ergo in my opinion and for me personally BOINC = backwards step because I and colleagues can no longer participate. Therefore (original post subject) I miss SETI classic. "I don't think that the sort of illegal and unethical parasitic purposes..." I'm sure that SETI is grateful for all the worktime donated to it by organisations allowing their computers to be used for their work.
2) Message boards : BOINC Manager : I miss the old SETI@Home (Message 2511) Posted 11 Jan 2006 by jochta Post: Do you know how to get BOINC working through a strict firewall in Windows. I cannot open any ports (not up to me), the proxy settings are greyed out. If the owner of the PC will not allow you to run BOINC (which means opening ports), you are violating the terms and conditions by running it. So - don't run it on that PC. Which is basically my point. Old SETI worked fine, BOINC doesn't. Therefore BOINC = backwards step IMO. Hmm, So SetiClassic was better because...it allowed you to hijack someone else's computer so that you could gain credit at their expense - computer cost+power+maintenance? I don't think that the sort of illegal and unethical parasitic purposes you have in mind will find much sympathy here, we don't really want to become your co-conspirators. No you misunderstand. Several colleagues and myself ran classic SETI on PCs at work. Using the time when the PCs were in screensaver to do something useful rather than sit there doing nothing except burn electricity. There were no issues with this with my employer. However, they will not (understandably for security reasons) open ports for BOINC despite me working for a scientific research establishment. Therefore by moving to BOINC we will no longer be able to contribute. I'm sure BOINC is wonderful (I run it at home, but seems a bit flaky to me) and has vast improvements over classic SETI. But for the basic function of actually working then it fails for us at work over classic SETI.
3) Message boards : BOINC Manager : I miss the old SETI@Home (Message 2496) Posted 10 Jan 2006 by jochta Post: Do you know how to get BOINC working through a strict firewall in Windows. I cannot open any ports (not up to me), the proxy settings are greyed out. If the owner of the PC will not allow you to run BOINC (which means opening ports), you are violating the terms and conditions by running it. So - don't run it on that PC. Which is basically my point. Old SETI worked fine, BOINC doesn't. Therefore BOINC = backwards step IMO.
4) Message boards : BOINC Manager : I miss the old SETI@Home (Message 2492) Posted 10 Jan 2006 by jochta Post: I miss the old SETI becuase it was simple to use, worked through my firewall without problems and very rarely went wrong. BOINC is a step backwards IMO. I miss OS/2 and was seriously disappointed when Microsoft shafted their partner IBM to release a less effective windows 3 ... Do you know how to get BOINC working through a strict firewall in Windows. I cannot open any ports (not up to me), the proxy settings are greyed out. Therefore as far as I can see BOINC is as much use as a chocolate teapot. Classic SETI worked first time, everytime I set it up on the same system. I'd be most grateful if there is a simple answer to this. I'd like to continue to participate, but at the moment it doesn't look likely.
5) Message boards : BOINC Manager : I miss the old SETI@Home (Message 2490) Posted 10 Jan 2006 by jochta Post: I miss the old SETI becuase it was simple to use, worked through my firewall without problems and very rarely went wrong. BOINC is a step backwards IMO.

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