Posts by ephman

1) Message boards : BOINC client : A Real Stumper (Message 10393)
Posted 20 May 2007 by ephman
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it might be because of the priority/nice level of the boinc apps - I believe speedstep will still throttle the CPU if the intensive task is only low priority. Could you turn speedstep off, or do you use speedstep when running on batteries?


i don't want to turn speedstep off just yet. however for me to get the chip back up to the 1.7ghz i had to change the priority to normal from very low. seems to be working. things seem to be a little sluggish now however. i didn't want to do that because it's not a default setting from boinc, but anyhow we'll see how it works out.

thanks,
ephman



found the solution. fiesty now supports frequency scaling... tada. had to make a few changes to change the setting from on demand to performance and that was it. solid 1.7ghz now all the time. sweet.

thanks,
ephman
2) Message boards : BOINC client : A Real Stumper (Message 10392)
Posted 20 May 2007 by ephman
Post:
it might be because of the priority/nice level of the boinc apps - I believe speedstep will still throttle the CPU if the intensive task is only low priority. Could you turn speedstep off, or do you use speedstep when running on batteries?


i don't want to turn speedstep off just yet. however for me to get the chip back up to the 1.7ghz i had to change the priority to normal from very low. seems to be working. things seem to be a little sluggish now however. i didn't want to do that because it's not a default setting from boinc, but anyhow we'll see how it works out.

thanks,
ephman
3) Message boards : BOINC client : A Real Stumper (Message 10369)
Posted 19 May 2007 by ephman
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Have you checked temps? To me it sounds like thermal throttling. But I agree it's odd that other CPU intensive programs work fine.

Maybe try running something like Prime95?


my temps ran a bit high when things were normal, around 64c @ 1.7ghz, now they're a steady 47C @ 600mhz. however, when i turn off and on my computer boinc never goes beyond the 600mhz now thus never allowing the chip to get hot enough to throttle back. i don't think that linux can remember what programs cause the chip to heat up and then on reboot remember to throttle back the cpu when boinc runs. i might be wrong. i upgraded to the latest 5.8.17, and still only giving out 600mhz, not the full 1.7ghz. when i run the cpu benchmark the chip then outputs the full 1.7ghz. haven't tried the prime yet. i told you this is a strange one.

thanks for the bandwidth,
ephman
4) Message boards : BOINC client : A Real Stumper (Message 10363)
Posted 19 May 2007 by ephman
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hi,

here's the scoop. i'm running ubuntu fiesty on my intel 1.7 ghz. i'm running a few boinc 5.4.11, projects (rosetta, and climate) which maxs out the cpu. now without any changes to the system i've noticed that my cpu won't go over 600Mhz running boinc. just happened the other day. it's like the intel sidesteps the chip down. weird. however when i'm running any other programs and the cpu needs everything its got the chip works just fine and will go up to the 1.7 ghz. but when that process is over it'll go back down to the 600 mhz while running boinc. now i know it might be a boinc related issue, however, nothing changed. so whatever i reinstalled the program just in case and that didn't solve the issue. i've looked all over so this is my last hope. any suggestions?

thanks,
ephman
5) Message boards : Web interfaces : Featured Participant Question (Message 2183)
Posted 23 Dec 2005 by ephman
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awesome for the info thanks. i'm running a pretty quick linux machine and i've been looking at the report deadlines and shouldn't have a problem hitting any of them. climateprediction however is sending me units with dec/5th deadlines. anyhow i'll just let things run they way things were installed it seems to be going pretty well. now all i have to figure out is how to run this thing in a daemon... that'll be an adventure i'm sure. i've run grid type projects in the past like protien@home, and the old seti@home, all under linux, and the reason i stopped was because my machine always felt really sluggish, not with this boinc app, i still feel pretty quick, so i don't think i'll be dropping out anytime soon (or until i burn up my cpu it's shot up 10 degrees celsius).

thanks for the bandwidth,
ephman.


ok i just installed everything yesterday. all my projects are under ephman

rosetta
einstien
predictor
seti
world community grid
lhc
climateprediction

so once i start finishing units my stats page on that site you linked below will automatically populate and update as units complete? there is no manual settings that i have to set it sounds like right?


What, you missed SZTAKI? >_<

Wow... uh... "Welcome to BOINC"? You're diving right on in, in a big way. Hope you have some _very_ powerful computers, or you may have bit off more than you can chew before deadlines there... A few hints:

_Always_ set CPDN (Climateprediction) to "no new work", and let work in manually when you need it. You never want more than one of their results on a single computer, unless you _really_ know what you're doing.

If you have any deadline problems or other concerns, I would "no new work" WCG, LHC, and Predictor, and when they are finally _out_ of work on your computer, suspend them. Work with the "basic 4" of Rosetta, Einstein, SETI, and CPDN for a while. I say this because LHC's work is erratic, Predictor's deadlines are short and their app is a bit buggy, and WCG is so new I just know nothing about their stuff yet. Once you're sure you're comfortable with everything BOINC-related, you can power them back up.

Keep your cache small. Maximum recommended is 1/n * shortest deadline, where n is the number of projects. So 1/7 of 7 days (Predictor) is 1 day. I think _I_ would keep it lower than that, probably the default 0.1 day.

Study the Wiki for any questions you have, and follow the message boards for any outages, etc., that may affect you. For example, Rosetta had a batch of "bad WUs" go out a couple of days ago, so you may see a lot of errors there; don't worry about it, the big ones they will go back and give credit for after the holidays.

Set the preference "leave applications in memory when preempted" to "yes". Otherwise, Rosetta won't work right for you.

If you are on Windows with an ATI graphics card, Einstein WUs may crash if you show graphics. There is a beta app available off their home page to fix that.

Give BOINC _lots_ of disk space in the preferences; CPDN will take around 650MB, the others more like 20MB each, but be generous. Especially on the "%" questions, because that is "% of free space", not "% of total disk space".

Read the Messages tab. You will see errors there long before they show up anywhere else.

Trust the BOINC scheduler. If you don't have any work for "project x" on your system, it's because you SHOULDN'T have any work for "project x" on your system. Unless there's an error in the Messages tab. :-)

--- now to your actual _question_... ---

Yes, it normally takes at _least_ 24 hours, AFTER credit is granted in a project, for your ID to show up in the project stats. That means you probably already have Rosetta credit, but won't have Einstein credit for a week or two, and you won't have LHC credit until they release a block of work to be done. You might show up sometime after noon PST tomorrow.

Once your name shows up in the search and you can pull up the "combined" page like the one I sent you to, you _still_ may not show all projects, even the ones you have credit for, until the "CPID sync" occurs. If this happens to you for more than a week, post back here for help. The projects that do show, if you click on the little 'graph' looking links beside each project, will give you an entire page like that on that project. You can then 'drill down' to teams, hosts, and many other things.

A similar site is BOINCSynergy. I prefer BOINCstats for the stats, but BOINCSynergy for my sig, because it shows %rank and Classic results, where BOINCstats sigs don't. There are probably 20 other stats sites out there, too.

Have fun!

6) Message boards : Web interfaces : Featured Participant Question (Message 2182)
Posted 23 Dec 2005 by ephman
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awesome for the info thanks. i'm running a pretty quick linux machine and i've been looking at the report deadlines and shouldn't have a problem hitting any of them. climateprediction however is sending me units with dec/5th deadlines. anyhow i'll just let things run they way things were installed it seems to be going pretty well. now all i have to figure out is how to run this thing in a daemon... that'll be an adventure i'm sure. i've run grid type projects in the past like protien@home, and the old seti@home, all under linux, and the reason i stopped was because my machine always felt really sluggish, not with this boinc app, i still feel pretty quick, so i don't think i'll be dropping out anytime soon (or until i burn up my cpu).

thanks for the bandwidth,
ephman.


ok i just installed everything yesterday. all my projects are under ephman

rosetta
einstien
predictor
seti
world community grid
lhc
climateprediction

so once i start finishing units my stats page on that site you linked below will automatically populate and update as units complete? there is no manual settings that i have to set it sounds like right?


What, you missed SZTAKI? >_<

Wow... uh... "Welcome to BOINC"? You're diving right on in, in a big way. Hope you have some _very_ powerful computers, or you may have bit off more than you can chew before deadlines there... A few hints:

_Always_ set CPDN (Climateprediction) to "no new work", and let work in manually when you need it. You never want more than one of their results on a single computer, unless you _really_ know what you're doing.

If you have any deadline problems or other concerns, I would "no new work" WCG, LHC, and Predictor, and when they are finally _out_ of work on your computer, suspend them. Work with the "basic 4" of Rosetta, Einstein, SETI, and CPDN for a while. I say this because LHC's work is erratic, Predictor's deadlines are short and their app is a bit buggy, and WCG is so new I just know nothing about their stuff yet. Once you're sure you're comfortable with everything BOINC-related, you can power them back up.

Keep your cache small. Maximum recommended is 1/n * shortest deadline, where n is the number of projects. So 1/7 of 7 days (Predictor) is 1 day. I think _I_ would keep it lower than that, probably the default 0.1 day.

Study the Wiki for any questions you have, and follow the message boards for any outages, etc., that may affect you. For example, Rosetta had a batch of "bad WUs" go out a couple of days ago, so you may see a lot of errors there; don't worry about it, the big ones they will go back and give credit for after the holidays.

Set the preference "leave applications in memory when preempted" to "yes". Otherwise, Rosetta won't work right for you.

If you are on Windows with an ATI graphics card, Einstein WUs may crash if you show graphics. There is a beta app available off their home page to fix that.

Give BOINC _lots_ of disk space in the preferences; CPDN will take around 650MB, the others more like 20MB each, but be generous. Especially on the "%" questions, because that is "% of free space", not "% of total disk space".

Read the Messages tab. You will see errors there long before they show up anywhere else.

Trust the BOINC scheduler. If you don't have any work for "project x" on your system, it's because you SHOULDN'T have any work for "project x" on your system. Unless there's an error in the Messages tab. :-)

--- now to your actual _question_... ---

Yes, it normally takes at _least_ 24 hours, AFTER credit is granted in a project, for your ID to show up in the project stats. That means you probably already have Rosetta credit, but won't have Einstein credit for a week or two, and you won't have LHC credit until they release a block of work to be done. You might show up sometime after noon PST tomorrow.

Once your name shows up in the search and you can pull up the "combined" page like the one I sent you to, you _still_ may not show all projects, even the ones you have credit for, until the "CPID sync" occurs. If this happens to you for more than a week, post back here for help. The projects that do show, if you click on the little 'graph' looking links beside each project, will give you an entire page like that on that project. You can then 'drill down' to teams, hosts, and many other things.

A similar site is BOINCSynergy. I prefer BOINCstats for the stats, but BOINCSynergy for my sig, because it shows %rank and Classic results, where BOINCstats sigs don't. There are probably 20 other stats sites out there, too.

Have fun!

7) Message boards : Web interfaces : Featured Participant Question (Message 2178)
Posted 22 Dec 2005 by ephman
Post:
thank you,

ok i just installed everything yesterday. all my projects are under ephman

rosetta
einstien
predictor
seti
world community grid
lhc
climateprediction

so once i start finishing units my stats page on that site you linked below will automatically populate and update as units complete? there is no manual settings that i have to set it sounds like right? your help is great bill thanks.

be well,
ephraim.



Maybe i should be a little clearer. on the homepage to this site there is a "Featured Participant". it shows all the projects that the person is participating in, with a pie chart.


AH! I'm sorry... well, my guess is that first you have to be in the Top 100 list of multi-project participants. To do that, you need to produce more than 3,769 credits/day and be giving at least 5% to each of 2 or more projects.

If all you want is the pie chart, you can get that (and 1000 other stats) from BOINCstats. For example, mine is here. The pie is down close to the bottom of that page. I searched for "ephman" but didn't find it; if you use a different name on the sites, that may be why.

8) Message boards : Web interfaces : Featured Participant Question (Message 2175)
Posted 22 Dec 2005 by ephman
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hi,

maybe i should be a little clearer. on the homepage to this site there is a "Featured Participant". it shows all the projects that the person is participating in, with a pie chart.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/stats_user.php?num=18

at the end of every url there's a unique number associated with each participant. how do i setup my account so that i as well get a unique webpage that also shows all the projects i participate in?

thanks,
ephman


You have to have a "profile" created at the project in question, under "Your Account". The selection is random, but I _believe_ it is weighted at least a little bit with how many "I like this profile" votes you've gotten causing you to be more likely to be chosen.

It also helps if you choose a project that has very few participants... I've been "User of the day" twice at SZTAKI, but never at SETI. :-)

9) Message boards : Web interfaces : Featured Participant Question (Message 2172)
Posted 22 Dec 2005 by ephman
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hello,

how do you setup up boinc so that you can become a featured participant? i'm running a linux version. anyhelp would be great, i've done some searching and can't seem to find how to make the settings.

thanks for the bandwidth,
ephman




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