Posts by Rudolfensis

1) Message boards : Questions and problems : gui_rpc_auth.cfg exists but can't be read. Check the File permissions. (Message 109207)
Posted 13 Jul 2022 by Rudolfensis
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I will admit that this error and the other one about var/etc/boinc_client can't be read (something like that combination of directory but don't totally remember if that's the exact one) made me question 2 things.

First... installing totally untouched Linux OS'... one after the other. Like Ubuntu, Cento... which ever I would get this AUTH error or the file can't be read error and made me really think why do these errors exist in the first place? They are untouched OS, just freshly installed, no new software but BOINC and each time run into a brick wall right after installing BOINC client/manager.

Second thing was... the hours I've spent going down rabbit holes trying to figure instructions which lead to even more problem made me wonder why I was even bothering trying to run BOINC on Linux. I mean it was so idiotic at some point I realize that some of the instruction were not even updated on BOINC's site itself. One of that was giving a command line "Sudo aptitude... " which on the latest Ubuntu does not even exist, there is no such a thing as APTITUDE software on 20.04 (I think that was the number or 20.4).

I was about to give up till I decided to try another OS called BEEPIN and BOOM! Not only Boinc works right after installing but I'm able to log into my account and make the laptop work again.

This still doesn't address the reason why BOINC is not able to spread a software version for Linux which almost never works unless you have a University degree in software engineering. Why these two errors comes up on almost all fresh OS?
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : GPU and CPU Temperatures. (Message 93082)
Posted 5 Oct 2019 by Rudolfensis
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It's so much complicated to try and find a solution where I can up the CPU about halfway from Intel Turbo provides when ENABLED because the main problem is that my CPU is 8700 not 8700K which means my options are limited.

I did try XTU and tried and tried to underclock when Turbo ON but... running BOINC showed temps going fairly fast to 92 degrees which is way beyond acceptable for me and it was probably going to get even hotter.

Running with Turbo OFF means even more complexity because you have even less possibility of moving a 8700 UP so Turbo has to be ON to be able to try to move down and trying to VCore Offset totally fails in lowering the temps with BOINC (but I do clearly see a decrease in temp in XTU).

VCore itself is even more complicated for me as I don't want to mess too much with VCore on XTU, safe limits are hard to fine on the internet for the 8700... plenty for the 8700K.

All in all I may just settle with safe temps with my computer being slower which I do not really see much impact when I do gaming at 3.2Ghz instead of 4.2 or 4.4Ghz. That way, BOINC never stresses the CPU more than 65C which I am very happy with and yes, I know that temps can be safe above that but a cooler CPU is always better for longer life as far as I am concerned. Also, this is still free involvement on our part so I do not want to age both my GPU and my CPU for donating my computer to these projects (been paid would allow people to change hardware when occurring fails or premature end of life).

So, currently, temps are under control:

CPU 60-65 max with all 6 cores in use by Einstein, SETI, Milkyway, collatz, etc.
GPU 60-70 max with aggressive fan curve control (you do hear the fan kicking in quite a bit the moment GPU projects starts computing) but that I could also stop all GPU computing if I ever feel it demands a bit too much from my brand new system.
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : GPU and CPU Temperatures. (Message 93052)
Posted 4 Oct 2019 by Rudolfensis
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Yeah, I had to really tweak the fans and it did work for the GPU but it was a massive fail for the CPU and it forced me to move out of Turbo mode.
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : GPU and CPU Temperatures. (Message 93051)
Posted 4 Oct 2019 by Rudolfensis
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It's funny because those two I run often, both Einstein and Milkyway.

I did try to under clock it but I think mine is already sold overclocked albeit I was not totally able to confirm that. All my tries at under clocking the GPU were failed but then again I was pretty much in the dark when it comes to under clocking.

Also, under clocking is not exactly what I was looking for because it has a permanent impact on my system and I don't want BOINC to be the center of my decision making.

Ideally, what I want is to run both CPU and GPU in acceptable temps without affecting gaming as this remains a multitask platform for me, I loan CPU/GPU times but I do not at all use my computer just for BOINC in my case.
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : GPU and CPU Temperatures. (Message 93048)
Posted 4 Oct 2019 by Rudolfensis
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Alright here's a two questions post.

I've been running BOINC and participating in these projects since 1997 but with always a cheap computer replaced by another cheap computer and so forth so never been able to participate seriously.

Now, I got a I7-8700 in a case with 5 120mm fans (2 in and 3 out), with a Stryx RX-580 GPU... Oh! And the CPU has a aftermarket cooler not the crappy original CPU fan.

It's not the highend of highend of computer but it is quite good and can go up to 4.4 ghz and I did put 16 gigs of RAM with heatsink RAMs.

So, there I was thinking stuff would be more serious with BOINC as I could run not only more than 2 analysis at the same time but run many projects at full speed........

Big error on my part. The first try, my computer shut itself down 3 times when running BOINC since it heated my RX580 to dangerous levels so fast I didn't really have that much time to try and react since most of everything happened under a minute.

Now I even tried to use TThrottle but that thing turn out to be trash trying to maintain the GPU at more acceptable temperature scale than 90 degrees which it actually reached at shutdown.

After much work tweaking my GPU fans, I was able to run GPU analysis again at a acceptable 65-70 degrees max for 1 running GPU project and only 1 at a time.

The other problem I ran is at Turbo mode (Intel own UEFI option), reaching 4.4 ghz instead of stock 3.2, I ran into another problem where CPU temps came close to 90 degrees so I stopped everything when I would see temps of 86.. 87... 88... and I stopped.

Now that one, unable to resolve it at all, I had just 2 choices, either I stop using BOINC altogether and run my new computer permanently at 4.4 ghz without any problem or I continue to use BOINC but go back to 3.2 since it runs fine at 3.2, temps are always below 65.

I'm lead to wondering a few things, why after all this time we still do not have a clear control of GPU settings directly in BOINC yet when we are able to control with a fair degree of precision how intensive your CPU will work.

Also, why in the world am I hitting those crazy temperature scales? Obviously I could not run BOINC at 100/100 (100% CPU and 100% all cores) at 4.4 it would blow my computer.

Keep in mind it's AIR cooled but aftermarket aircooling is very much at par with closed watercooling. And the tower is a full tower with excellent airflow with all fans running at full speed.

P.S. Just to be clear, the 4.4 is obviously overclocked and would produce more heat but I'm talking about stock overclocking by using UEFI Intel Turbo boost so I'm not talking about very serious overclocking here, you either chose you are going to use your cpu at turbo or not.
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : Controlling or Viewing Multiple Hosts (Message 85404)
Posted 24 Mar 2018 by Rudolfensis
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NativeBoinc has the same problem as the other, I believe, presume it was abandoned and lack modern updates as it doesn't work for recent versions of Android. At least, but my current 5.x+ version will not work according to what I was reading about NativeBoinc and above v5 android platforms.
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : Controlling or Viewing Multiple Hosts (Message 85396)
Posted 23 Mar 2018 by Rudolfensis
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I also tried BOINCTasks but they don't see any of my android hosts.
8) Message boards : Questions and problems : Controlling or Viewing Multiple Hosts (Message 85384)
Posted 23 Mar 2018 by Rudolfensis
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Yeah I'm afraid that Adro is a fail in regards to controlling or even viewing other hosts, something about it not having been updated in a long time and not supporting modern versions of Android.

It's just way complicated to manage different hosts and different OS's and it'll get more complicated because I want to have 6 android phones, 1-2 rasberry pi's and my desktop+laptop pc's. Without the ability to view I cannot see who's stalling on the work, I gota go through each device and see where the problem is.
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : Controlling or Viewing Multiple Hosts (Message 85382)
Posted 22 Mar 2018 by Rudolfensis
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I've looked everywhere, tried all apps out there but they all fail. I have multiple hosts with very different OS, Windows, Android, Rasperry PI, I'm looking for a way to if not control them at least view them from my PC desktop as it happens too often when a hosts will cease to work for different reason and I would prefer not to go through them one by one as the number of android devices will grow.

Is there something out there that will allow to at least view different hosts/OS boincs?

By the way, this is my second post since... 2008 :D
10) Message boards : Projects : Quality insurance. (Message 21647)
Posted 6 Dec 2008 by Rudolfensis
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I've noticed a lot of puzzling projects out there lately, projects with limited participation on the part of the directors or even projects that run almost in-abstentia.

I'm wondering, is there a "standard" bureau for BOINC that supervises the projects and assure they meet minimum requirements? Is there anyone that actually assures participants that their efforts is not going down the drain because of a project that is run in a very poor manner?




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