Posts by Cliff Harding

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1) Message boards : The Lounge : Windows 11 23H2?
Message 113123
Posted 17 Nov 2023 by Cliff Harding
I'm just curious -- has anyone has upgraded their system to Win 11 23H2, and did they any problems with it.
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC disregards limitations and running 100% CPU when computer is in use
Message 110893
Posted 8 Jan 2023 by Cliff Harding
Some questions on your system to get more information.

What version of the manager are you using? The current version is 7.20.2.
How many cores are you using, and are you using H/T?
On the computer preferences tab > Computing
What is the use at most % CPU - mine is set at 60% -- H/T
What use at most % CPU time - mine is set at 100%

On the computer preferences tab > Disk & Memory
Are you limiting the use of memory, or do you have the 'Leave at least # GB free' checked? Make sure this is checked with a large amount of spave
and BOINC will use as much space as it needs. I have mine set at 10 GB for many years with no problem. Just make sure the other 'use' options
are unchecked.

From the msg from the server --
Milkyway@Home: Notice from server
Milkyway@home Separation needs 71.53MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 71.53 MB.

it looks like memory is being restricted somehow.

Even though I'm running win 11 Pro, these settings are carried over from 10.
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : Install Windows 11 on an "Old PC"
Message 105292
Posted 31 Aug 2021 by Cliff Harding
Thanks for taking the time to test this on old hardware and posting it out here.

The present client doesn't recognize Windows 11 yet, that's fixed in #4468 and will come in a later BOINC release.


I'm in the process of upgrading my CPU/MOBO, when will this fix be released for testing?
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : Loss of statistical data when machine crashes
Message 104812
Posted 16 Jul 2021 by Cliff Harding
Currently I'm running 7.17.0 (x64)
Which doesn't say much. Whenever you downloaded the source code during the past 7.16 development cycle (starting April 2020) and compiled it, it would compile as 7.17.0 as that's what it says in the versions.h header file. And if you don't change it, it'll be that version.

So if you want to report something like that, say when you downloaded its code.
Also, as with everything computers: backup, backup, backup. So, backup your data directory every week, in such case you lose a week at max at a next crash. Of course, you can also run a script that backs up the statistics_*.xml files every day.


The BOINCMGR & BOINCTRAY .exes were compiled by Richard Haselgrove on 29 Oct, 2020 on one of his machines and sent to me on 26 Jan, 2021. This was in regards with the problems with the 7.16.16 installer. I immediately installed them replacing the same .exe files with them in the BOINC program files on my system drive (C:).

This is what stats file, which physically resides on my data drive (D:\BOINC) looks like for the project that I'm currently running. As you can see the individual stats file for this project was not affected by the crash, and it never has as far as I can determine. It would be the same if I were to have multiple projects on the machine. The problem lies in how it is displayed on the statistics tab on the manager. What should have been a trace line of daily work for several months has disappeared, as this file gets updated several times each day as long as the project is active. If I had multiple projects on my machine there would be stats for each project. As I stated this goes back further than 7.16.x.

If a project was suspended for a period of time it would be reflected in the downward slope of its trace line.

<project_statistics>
<master_url>http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/</master_url>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1626393600.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>80385628.041079</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>200882.273097</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>78317523.785721</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>200882.262785</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
</project_statistics>
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : Loss of statistical data when machine crashes
Message 104810
Posted 16 Jul 2021 by Cliff Harding
You're lucky, when I was running multiple projects I lost everything on each project.
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : Loss of statistical data when machine crashes
Message 104808
Posted 16 Jul 2021 by Cliff Harding
I've noticed that when/if my machine crashes, mostly heat related, I lose my accumulated stats on the stats tab of the manager. It does not happen often but it does happen, and the stats start all over again from the last point of reference prior to the crash. The daily stats file for the project does not seem to be affected, just the STATISTICS tab on the manager. The stats argument on the cc_config_xml file is set to 365 days and has been for several years. So somewhere the accumulated stats are being lost. Please note that this happens regardless what the length of the stats argument.

Currently I'm running 7.17.0 (x64) on Win 10 (build: 19043.1110), which is a prerelease, but this goes back much further; prior to 7.16.11.
7) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages
Message 104400
Posted 17 May 2021 by Cliff Harding
Milkyway is back up and running full bore.
8) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC 7.16 Change Log
Message 102341
Posted 26 Dec 2020 by Cliff Harding
Can anyone tell me when the installer for BOINC 7.16.16_windows_x86_x64 will be finalized so that 7.16.16 can be tested in Windows 10? It seems that its been sitting in limbo since at least 27 Oct. 2019.
9) Message boards : The Lounge : Arecibo has fallen!!
Message 101945
Posted 4 Dec 2020 by Cliff Harding
For those of us that previously cruised in the SETIverse, I have sad news. ARECIBO has fallen. It collasped on 1 Dec and a drone inspecting the cables caught the collaspe. https://weather.com/news/weather/video/watch-arecibo-observatorys-dramatic-collapse
10) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC 7.16 Change Log
Message 101572
Posted 14 Nov 2020 by Cliff Harding
When will BOINC 7.16.16 (x64) be available for beta testing. It has been sitting on the beta d/l site since 27 Oct, but when I reported my results to BOINC Alpha, I was rudely shot down for the reporting as it was still in alpha testing and the installer was not ready for beta. Another question -- In of all the years that I've been beta testing, why was this even on the beta d/l site especially since the installer wasn't ready?
11) Message boards : News : Rosetta@home studies coronavirus
Message 97025
Posted 24 Mar 2020 by Cliff Harding
I tried folding@home when the news first came out about them and corvid-19, I gave up after it crashed my system 3 times in as many days crunching just GPU tasks even at the min. settings. Waked up in the morning and have to cycle the machine. NOT GOOD. I would have tried Rosetta@home, but it seems that it doesn't use GPUs. Does anyone know who within the BOINC world is running these types of studies that have GPUs as an option for processing?
12) Message boards : BOINC Manager : BOINC 7.16.5 not auto starting!
Message 96551
Posted 9 Mar 2020 by Cliff Harding
Just installed BOINC 7.16.5 (x64), upgraded from 7.6.13 (x64), on a Win 10 Pro machine and immediately noticed that upon a machine recycle that it did not do an auto start as specified in the Windows Task Manager. I attempted to post this on the BOINC Test Results site, but the highest this goes is 7.14.3, so I'm reporting this here. I will also send an email via BOINC Alpha.
13) Message boards : The Lounge : The Seti is Slumbering Cafe
Message 95145
Posted 15 Jan 2020 by Cliff Harding
It seems that both SETI main & beta are both entirely down, can't get to either site. Attempted to update my machine and the event log stated that the site is down for maint.
14) Message boards : The Lounge : The Seti is Slumbering Cafe
Message 95130
Posted 15 Jan 2020 by Cliff Harding
Ah well, the SSP is frozen though....
This is going to be a 12 hours recovery, at the minumum.

Edit: And Beta is back(ish) also.
Edit2: Still server version 715 at Beta.


Seti main was up this earlier this morning and now it's down. Are the guys at CERN screwing thing up again? I thought they learned last time this happened.
15) Message boards : Questions and problems : 7.16.x change logs?
Message 93194
Posted 14 Oct 2019 by Cliff Harding
When can we expect the 7.16.x change logs?
16) Message boards : The Lounge : The Seti is Slumbering Cafe
Message 91016
Posted 10 Apr 2019 by Cliff Harding
WE'RE BACK !! - SETI is back up even though the status page states that the data driven web pages are still disabled. I was able to log on the the site.
17) Message boards : The Lounge : The Seti is Slumbering Cafe
Message 90442
Posted 3 Mar 2019 by Cliff Harding
Just a warning: GPUGrid programs are highly optimized and push a lot from the GPU.
So keep and eye on your GPU temps and increase the speed of the fan if necessary.

Thanks for the heads-up, Juan, and a good warning to others as well.
I had noticed that, and use HWInfo to watch temps on all boxes across the network.


Not having any problems with my twin GTX1070FE at 1 task each, temps are actually a couple of degrees cooler then when running 2 each of SETI SOG.
18) Message boards : The Lounge : The Seti is Slumbering Cafe
Message 90396
Posted 2 Mar 2019 by Cliff Harding
And to make it all better, Einstein isn't splitting any GPU work right now either.

Well there goes plan B

Plan C! Any ideas on plan D?
19) Message boards : The Lounge : The Seti is Slumbering Cafe
Message 90378
Posted 2 Mar 2019 by Cliff Harding
Can't win for losing, not only is SETI down but it seems that the Milkyway site is down also. Is something contagious going around?
20) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Feature Request: Date Received
Message 68510
Posted 24 Mar 2016 by Cliff Harding
The main concern that I have is that even though FIFO is supposed to be the natural order, there seems to be a common thread of how AP(GPU) tasks are being processed. Between 3/18 and 3/20, I received 21 of these work units, but they didn't get processed until over night/early this morning (3/23- 3/24). In the mean time between 3/18 and today there is a constant flow of v8 MB work units in and out of my machine. Normally in the task panel, the progress column is sorted (descending)and only active work units are displayed. If I display all work units, and sort the "Deadline" column (ascending- showing earliest deadline), I don't expect to see work units that have a much later deadline being processed prior to an earlier deadline. With the new column I can ascertain with a much more certainty and much more easily, by comparing the two side-by-side, if there is a scheduling problem that needs to be reported.

We've run into this type of situation before and it took quite a lot convincing on my part to prove that there was indeed a scheduling problem with the AP work units.
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