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41) Message boards : BOINC Manager : BOINC Manager freezes every time that I select the Notices tab
Message 56991
Posted 23 Oct 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
Yes it's 7.2.42. Sorry it took so long for me to reply. I have subscribed to this thread now.

I have been able to see the notices today, so I won't update just yet.
42) Message boards : BOINC Manager : BOINC Manager freezes every time that I select the Notices tab
Message 56180
Posted 23 Sep 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
It has been happening for a couple of weeks I think.

There is a notice about the third birthday for one of my projects. The first time that BOINC Manager froze, I was trying to read the whole notice (more than one full page) and expand a photo within the notice. I have no idea if this issue is related to that notice.

When it freezes, it 'greys out' (loses colour and becomes unresponsive). When it happened to me earlier today,I decided to leave it and see what happened. I left it for 3 hours, and there was no change whatsoever.

As far as I can tell, the BOINC client continues working.

...I just tried it now because I thought maybe it's stopped happening. It was all working OK, and I thought maybe the issue had resolved itself, but then I clicked somewhere on the page within the Notices tab, and it's just frozen.
43) Message boards : Projects : Anyone know what's going on with 'ibercivis'?
Message 54610
Posted 26 Jun 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
OK fair enough. I think I should be OK to leave those two tasks trying to upload.
44) Message boards : Projects : Anyone know what's going on with 'ibercivis'?
Message 54528
Posted 21 Jun 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
Thanks. I don't know what the "feeder" is, but in any case do you think it is worth waiting until the tasks upload?

I also don't know what "the usual server bug" is.
45) Message boards : Projects : Anyone know what's going on with 'ibercivis'?
Message 54521
Posted 21 Jun 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
I have a couple of completed ibercivis tasks on a computer that keep trying to upload but haven't been able to upload. They were completed a week or two ago.

If I go to http://ibercivis.es, the website works fine.

If I go to the project's "Home page" http://registro.ibercivis.es from the BOINC Manager, my browser tries to load it for a while and then times out. http://www.isitdownrightnow.com reports the site as being down.

If I "Update" the project from the Projects page within BOINC Manager on another computer, it says "Scheduler request pending, Requested by user, Scheduler request in progress" for a while, and then "Communication deferred (amount of time)", and so far I haven't been able to get any new ibercivis tasks.
46) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Feature request: Show number representing the number of tasks selected in BM
Message 54163
Posted 18 May 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
For example, in a spreadsheet, the count of cells, rows, or columns selected is generally shown in the bottom right-hand corner.

This functionality would be extremely useful for managing tasks in BM.

Most of my computers have 2 cores each, so it's easy to manage the tasks, because one can see at a glance in BM how the two cores are being used.

One of my computers has 2 processors x 8 cores each = 16 cores, which shows as 32 cores with virtualisation. That makes the following tasks more difficult and unreliable:

1. Checking that 32 tasks are running;
2. Selecting and pausing running tasks before closing BM and tasks (which I have started doing because I found that without pausing the tasks first, I would often get a Computation error); and
3. Ensuring that my preferred individual tasks are running at any one time (and Suspending the others).

This problem will become more pronounced as the number of cores increases. Processors with 12 cores each are now readily available.
47) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 54153
Posted 18 May 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
After all that, I think I'll just leave it as is now.

According to the Disks utility, the number of bad sectors hasn't increased from 302 for two weeks or more, and I have been running BOINC during that time.

If my SSD is going to hold for a while, I'd rather than just spend the money (and the time) to replace it when the time comes than spend more time now trying to get BOINC to work nicely on my HDD.

Thanks for your help.
48) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 54016
Posted 8 May 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
So you'll want to keep that directory around either as a real directory or as a symlink to the new location or change boinc's home directory to the new location.

Do you mean to do something else once I've moved it?

Also, there is no "boinc's home directory" specified in /etc/default/boinc-client.
49) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53998
Posted 7 May 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
I have a funny feeling deep down inside that the problem is probably related to

First, the HDD isn't mounted automatically when the OS starts. And second, when you let GNOME manage the mounting process the permissions gets set too tight so BOINC can't change it's working directory to the new data directory.


despite the fact that the permissions for /.../boinc-client and its subfolders looked OK when I looked at them after moving the folder from /var/lib/boinc-client on the SSD to /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client on the HDD.

The other possibility is something to do with the fact that the folder /var/lib/boinc-client/slots exists now while BOINC is working on the SSD, but when I moved the folder /var/lib/boinc-client from the SSD to the HDD, all of a sudden there was no /.../boinc-client/slots.
50) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53997
Posted 7 May 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul

You boot up the computer, open file manager and there is "Storage" listed under Devices. When you click the "Storage" an eject like icon appears next to it.

Yes

When you changed how the HDD showed in file manager, you either removed the "Storage" from fstab or went through Disks->your HDD->partition in it->Edit Mount Options->Automatic Mount Options->On.

No, I used the CLI, but I can't remember now what the command line said.
51) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53969
Posted 6 May 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul

I still don't know what happened to your slots directory during the move. Either the whole data directory should have been moved or the files and directories that couldn't be moved should have been left at the original location. But since you could create the link it's like some of the files just vanished into thin air???


Since my last post, I have got BOINC running again as before, on my SSD (as the default installation configuration). I would rather be running BOINC now in the shorter term than spending loads of time trying to work out how to be able to run BOINC in the longer term. Hopefully it won't take too long to get a new SSD when I need one.

I see that there is a directory "slots" in /var/lib/boinc-client. That was not there after I moved the directory "boinc-client" using
sudo mv /var/lib/boinc-client/ /media/sdb1/var-lib-boinc-client/
as described in Message 53609.

I will have another go at getting it running on the HDD though, so that it doesn't get the big interruption when it's time to change the SSD.


Have you noticed the text in the lower right corner of the Manager? You know, the text that says "Connected" or "Connecting" or "Disconnected" or something like that. When you say your projects and tasks have disappeared has that text in the Manager ever said "Connected"? And has it said "Connected" before you tried to add a project?

I have seen it before, but I didn't notice what it said when I was trying to run BOINC on my HDD. That's a shame isn't it.


Next, I would like you to list the owner and permissions of all the directories in the data directory path, starting from /media. And not from file manager but from command line with "ls -ld /media" and so on. Please just copy-paste.

I'll do this, but I'll let BOINC run for a couple of weeks before I have another go.


You said you set your HDD to mount automatically at OS start. How and where did you set it?

I don't really understand the question (the "set it" part). This is the first time that I've had more than one drive in a computer. When I bought the computer, the HDD was set up to list as a directory "storage" within / and not have a disk mounted discretely, but I changed it, and now it looks the same straight after booting as an external disk does when plugged in.


What's in your /etc/fstab?

Nothing special:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=21e4cb98-d3af-4a9a-9cdf-aa5e92493ed8 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=265ae6bf-eb9e-4100-98d4-b1fbec0b658d none            swap    sw              0       0
52) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53825
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
It just means boincmgr doesn't have its input and output connected to any terminal.


Nope I don't know what that means (the "connected" part).

Was boinc supposed to be running at that time? If you start the service does it run for a moment and then crash like it did in the other thread?


Just now:
cd /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client/ && sudo -u boinc boinc


followed by

ps -A|grep boinc


in another terminal gives:

  5031 pts/2    00:00:00 boinc
  5036 pts/2    00:00:00 boinc


Technically, you could skip the move and just tell BOINC to use the new location. For BOINC this would look like a new computer.


Yes but I didn't want to have to create subdirectories and permissions, hence the move.

The top level directory is still something you need to create yourself, BOINC shouldn't have permissions to do it by itself.


Which top-level directory?

And this time the client didn't crash? I can't see anything weird in the messages.


Yes if I:
1. Start BOINC Manager; then
2. Try to add a project (since my projects have disappeared), after about 10 seconds I get the message "The BOINC client has exited unexpectedly 3 times within the last 2 minutes. Would you like to restart it again?".

Before I moved the directory "boinc-client", I added a project and BOINC all worked, downloading and starting on about 40 or 50 tasks before I paused it and moved the directory.

Then I did the three things from this post:

1. Move (or create) the "boinc-client" directory; and
2. Create a symbolic link "var/lib/boinc-client" to the new "boinc-client" directory; and
3. Edit "/etc/default/boinc-client" to state the location of "boinc-client"

and now it:

1. Doesn't show any projects or tasks; and
2. Doesn't let me add any projects.

Moving the data directory should just work.


Yes I agree with this. I am sure that there is some way to use the HDD instead of the SSD for BOINC working files, but so far I haven't been able to achieve it or even to find out how.
53) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53824
Posted 28 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
BOINC operates with three sub-directories below the main data directory. You have the main directory listed there:

27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Data directory: /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client

so create these three directories within it:

notices
projects
slots

if they're not already there.


I had checked that BOINC was working, just before moving
/var/lib/boinc-client
to
/media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client
, and the directory (which I have not changed in any way) contains the following subdirectories:

notices
projects
.nv

I'm happy to create a slots subdirectory, bearing in mind that BOINC was working OK before I moved this directory. In order to speed this up, it would be helpful if someone could give me the correct command to create the directory and set the correct permissions.

Make sure that BOINC has permission to read and write to all three sub-directories, and in the case of 'projects' and 'slots' to execute files - including files in daughter directories.


The three subdirectories have the following permissions which I have not changed:

notices
Owner: BOINC core client
Access: Create and delete files

Group: boinc
Access: Create and delete files

projects

Owner: BOINC core client
Access: Create and delete files

Group: boinc
Access: Create and delete files

.nv

Owner: BOINC core client
Access: Create and delete files

Group: boinc
Access: None
54) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53812
Posted 27 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
If it still doesn't work run the following:

cd /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client/ && sudo -u boinc boinc


That starts BOINC as user boinc. All the messages go to your terminal instead of the various files. Copy-paste the messages here, maybe there's something useful in them.


The result of that is

27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.35.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1f zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.28 librtmp/2.3
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Data directory: /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] No usable GPUs found
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Host name: W2600CR
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Processor: 32 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 0 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 45 Stepping 7]
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] OS: Linux: 3.13.0-24-generic
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Memory: 31.32 GB physical, 31.92 GB virtual
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Disk: 916.77 GB total, 441.61 GB free
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Local time is UTC +9 hours
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] VirtualBox version: 4.3.10_Ubuntur93012
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [pogs] URL http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/; Computer ID 34098; resource share 100
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] General prefs: from http://lhcathome2.cern.ch/test4theory/ (last modified 17-Nov-2013 17:08:05)
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Host location: none
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] General prefs: using your defaults
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Reading preferences override file
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Preferences:
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---]    max memory usage when active: 16036.07MB
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---]    max memory usage when idle: 28864.93MB
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---]    max disk usage: 441.54GB
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---]    suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---]    (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
dir_open: Could not open directory 'slots' from '/media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client'.
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] gui_rpc_auth.cfg is empty - no GUI RPC password protection
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 [---] Not using a proxy
27-Apr-2014 11:20:12 Initialization completed


That
Could not open directory 'slots' from '/media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client'
is pretty suspicious. I've seen it several times before. I don't understand it because there's no directory 'slots' in /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client.
55) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53811
Posted 27 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
You don't judge by load. You look in logs.


That makes sense, but I'm afraid that I don't know where these logs would be.

Second, #8 provided then #5, #6, #7 are completely unnecessary.


If you mean that step 8 makes steps 5, 6 and 7 unnecessary:

Step 5: This is the punchline of the whole thing, which is to move the BOINC working directory from my SSD to my HDD.

Step 6: That was just in preparation for creating the link.

Step 7: I created the link as a result of Message 53626, and BOINC Manager started running again, so I believe it to be necessary.

If that's not what you mean, then I don't understand that sentence.
56) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53810
Posted 27 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
Permissions are easy to check. Point your file manager to /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client/ and check that the directory and all files are owned by user boinc. Doesn't hurt to check that user boinc has read and write permissions to each file.


Yes I did that yesterday. The folder boinc-client and its subfolders have:

Owner: BOINC core client
Access: Create and delete files

Group: boinc
Access: Access files

And whynot is right. If you need to know that BOINC is/isn't running either check the service status, look in System Monitor or run 'ps -A|grep boinc' .


el_gallo_azul@W2600CR:~$ ps -A|grep boinc
  7372 ?        00:00:10 boincmgr


I'm afraid that I don't know what that question mark means.
57) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53798
Posted 26 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
No the thread hasn't reached its end just yet.

I reinstalled Ubuntu 14.04 yesterday (as per this thread).

Later, I:

1. Installed BOINC from the Ubuntu repository, which has version 7.2.42 of boinc-manager and boinc-client.

2. Added a project to test that BOINC works again, downloaded tasks (approximately 40 or 50 of them), and then Suspended the tasks shortly after they started calculating.

3. BOINC Manager>Menu>File>Exit BOINC Manager>Stop running tasks when exiting the BOINC Manager

4.
sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client stop
in a terminal.

5.
sudo mv /var/lib/boinc-client/ /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/
in a terminal - Storage is my HDD.

6.
cd /var/lib/
in a terminal

7.
sudo ln -s /media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client/
in a terminal


8.
sudo gedit /etc/default/boinc-client
in a terminal, and then edit the file in gedit such that
# This is the data directory of the BOINC core client.
BOINC_DIR="/media/el_gallo_azul/Storage/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client"


9. Had another look at the previous steps to make sure that everything looked ready to go.

10. Rebooted the computer.

11. Started boinc-manager - No tasks appeared.

12.
sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client start
in a terminal - No tasks appeared

CPU usage is about 1%, so boinc-client is not working on any tasks. My understanding was that the steps that I've shown in bold (steps 5, 7 and 8) would enable me to use my HDD for BOINC work files instead of my SSD, but they haven't. What am I missing? The only thing that I can think of is something to with users and their permissions, but I have no idea what the problem would be.
58) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC Manager 7.2.7 (x64) not working after Ubuntu 13.10 upgrade from 13.04
Message 53796
Posted 26 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
After all that, since a few things had stopped working during updates:

1. From Ubuntu 13.04 to Ubuntu 13.10; and

2. From Ubuntu 13.10 to Ubuntu 14.04;

I did a clean installation (from DVD) of Ubuntu 14.04 yesterday. That seemed to iron out the problems, and a fresh BOINC (boinc-manager and boinc-client version 7.2.42) was working again, but I have been unable to get BOINC to use my HDD for BOINC work files, instead of my SSD, as described in this post.
59) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC Manager 7.2.7 (x64) not working after Ubuntu 13.10 upgrade from 13.04
Message 53715
Posted 19 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
I updated from Ubuntu 13.10 to Ubuntu 14.04 today. A couple of other broken things were fixed through that process (and other other things were broken). Happily, BOINC Manager, boinc-client and boinc are now version 7.2.42.

If I start BOINC Manager (with Advanced View) > Menu > Tools > Add project or account manager..., I get exactly the same result as I did with Ubuntu 13.10 last week, ie. I receive the error message

BOINC Manager - Unexpected Exit
The BOINC client has exited unexpectedly 3 times within the last 5 minutes. Would you like to restart it again?


I checked that:

1. The directory
/media/sdb1/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client
is OK.

2. The file
/etc/default/boinc-client
contains
# This is the data directory of the BOINC core client.
BOINC_DIR="/media/sdb1/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client"


3. The symbolic link
/var/lib/boinc-client
which points to
/media/sdb1/var-lib-boinc-client/boinc-client
is OK.

I'm not going to do anything about it right now, but maybe I'll give the boinc user stuff from Message 53667 a try tomorrow. I'd love to get BOINC running again.
60) Message boards : Questions and problems : Use HDD for BOINC work files instead of SSD
Message 53714
Posted 19 Apr 2014 by Profileel_gallo_azul
The message that I originally wrote here belongs against another thread.

I think this thread has reached its end.
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