Posts by MossyRock

1) Message boards : Questions and problems : Science United ??? (Message 84208)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by MossyRock
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In reading that post more carefully, I see that David Anderson said, "TBD is not a BOINC replacement. It's a new project manager for volunteers who
want to use it, and it's technology to help HPC centers add BOINC back ends."

I hope that this approach is maintained.
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Science United ??? (Message 84204)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by MossyRock
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Well, I certainly hope that this is an unplanned move/mistake, because to foist something like this on us without warning, with no explanation or transition, will result in a lot of p*ssed off crunchers.

I read through the links explaining the history and reasoning behind a move to the "Science United" model and can understand the desire to simplify volunteer computing (VC) for people who are not that tech savvy in order to grow VC participation.

However, the removal of granular control of what I'm crunching left me stone cold. I would think that the majority of the very dedicated crunchers, who are passionate about certain projects, would feel the same way.

If the existing BOINC model can exist simultaneously with this "new" model and I can still use the existing BOINC model, I'll be ok.

However, if the existing BOINC model is replaced with this "new" model, I think it will be a disaster.
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : Science United ??? (Message 84184)
Posted 4 Jan 2018 by MossyRock
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The URL http://boinc.berkeley.edu goes to a site called "Science United." It says "Science United alpha test."

The URL https://boinc.berkeley.edu goes to the familiar BOINC home page.

As you can see, the only difference is the "s" in the http.

What is up with this? What is "Science United?"

Thanks.
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinccmd --get_messages output (Message 80481)
Posted 26 Aug 2017 by MossyRock
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Awesome! Thank you, Juha.
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinccmd --get_messages output (Message 80467)
Posted 25 Aug 2017 by MossyRock
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When boinccmd --get_messages is executed, there is a section of each message that is in parenthesis, like "(low)", "(Internal Error)", etc., and indicates the severity of the message.

I am writing some scripts that will read and parse BOINC messages and I need to know what all of the possible values are of this severity text, if there is a defined set of values.

Does anybody know?

Thanks.
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : Event Log Filter (Message 65439)
Posted 14 Nov 2015 by MossyRock
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Thank you Ageless, SekeRob2, and noderaser.

This is excellent information. I've considered using BOINCTasks so now I will try it. I like the way it handles multiple BOINC clients.

I also appreciate the info about the stdoutdae.txt file - I could write and run a script to parse it and present a filtered view. The challenge here is determining a comprehensive set of target strings to search for so that I don't miss something important.
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : Event Log Filter (Message 65430)
Posted 14 Nov 2015 by MossyRock
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I review my Boinc Manager's Event Log regularly to see if there were tasks that ended abnormally or if there are other issues that I need to address.

The amount of data to sift through is enormous.

Is there a way to set some kind of filter to just display errors/failures? I see the Diagnostic Log Flag checkboxes but these add to the amount of data.

I'm looking for a quick way to do this, like you can do with Windows' Event Viewer's Custom Views > Administrative Events filter.

Thanks.
8) Message boards : Promotion : How to promote BOINC in local school system (Message 64564)
Posted 30 Sep 2015 by MossyRock
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Thank you, Ageless, for the information.
9) Message boards : Promotion : How to promote BOINC in local school system (Message 64506)
Posted 29 Sep 2015 by MossyRock
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I've been involved with BOINC for almost a decade, and I've been thinking about promoting BOINC in our local school system, as a volunteer.

If I could even get one student to latch onto BOINC I would feel like my efforts would have been worth it. However, I think the potential could go much father than that.

I can't seem to find any articles, best practices, or case studies where BOINC is being used in junior high or high schools. I'm particularly interested in how an outside volunteer would evangelize BOINC and get such a program up and running.

Could you provide some guidance or links?

Thank you very much.
10) Message boards : Questions and problems : Strange Boinc Manager Task Switching Behavior (Message 54778)
Posted 6 Jul 2014 by MossyRock
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Update: It's now switching amongst all projects in a regular manner.
11) Message boards : Questions and problems : Strange Boinc Manager Task Switching Behavior (Message 54649)
Posted 30 Jun 2014 by MossyRock
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Thanks, Claggy, for the explanation.

BM finished all of the POGS tasks with only 9 hours to spare, much too close for comfort for me. Now it has no POGS tasks queued, saying that it doesn't need any, opting for the other three projects instead.

It's crunched extremely little POGS as compared to the others aver the past few weeks.

Whatever... I'll just let it alone for a month to see if it finally decides to start including POGS again to any material degree.
12) Message boards : Questions and problems : Strange Boinc Manager Task Switching Behavior (Message 54630)
Posted 28 Jun 2014 by MossyRock
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Minimum work buffer: .10 days
Max additional work buffer: .50 days
13) Message boards : Questions and problems : Strange Boinc Manager Task Switching Behavior (Message 54627)
Posted 28 Jun 2014 by MossyRock
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I'll take that back - I'm starting to worry.

BM hasn't switched to POGS for three days. Eight POGS WUs (4 waiting to run, 4 ready to start) have a deadline of tomorrow, 6/29/2014 between 5:40am and 9:00am, and it still hasn't switched to them. It's now 6/28/2014 at 6:55am PST.

WCG and GPUGRID are the only other two projects running. Climateprediction.net has no tasks available. It's still downloading new WCG and GPUGRID WUs and trying to get new climateprediction.net WUs.

I'm going to let BM do its thing with no micro-managing from me to see what happens with the POGS WUs. BM is supposed to recognize this situation and finish WUs that are about to hit a deadline.
14) Message boards : Questions and problems : Strange Boinc Manager Task Switching Behavior (Message 54616)
Posted 27 Jun 2014 by MossyRock
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Gary,

Thanks for your response. I suspect that climateprediction.net with its very long WUs is what tipped the cart.

I'll go ahead and accept this as "normal" behavior and not worry about it.
15) Message boards : Questions and problems : Strange Boinc Manager Task Switching Behavior (Message 54601)
Posted 26 Jun 2014 by MossyRock
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Hello,

I'm running BM ver. 7.2.42 (x64) on a Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, 8-core AMD FX-8350 machine with 8GB of memory.

Everything was running smoothly when I was running just POGS and GPUGRID - there was no task switching occurring.

I then added climateprediction.net and World Community Grid, so now there are four projects running. All show 25% resource share.

What's happening now is POGS gets almost no compute time - the POGS tasks sit with "waiting to run" most of the time. Then, after several days, all the other projects start getting "no need" messages for new tasks, the queue dries up except for the waiting POGS tasks, and then POGS starts running. When they are done, or nearly so, the queue starts filling up again with the other projects and the cycle repeats.

The switching interval is set at the default - every 60 minutes, and I have it set to use 100% of the processors, use 100% of CPU time. Computing and GPU use is allowed while computer is in use, and applications are left in memory while suspended.

I've waited before writing this because I've read that BM eventually gets everything sorted and starts switching tasks normally again, but I'm not seeing this happening. This behavior has been going on for about a week.

Any suggestions?
16) Message boards : Projects : Collatz Conjecture Credit (Message 51518)
Posted 24 Nov 2013 by MossyRock
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Richard,

Yes, that's me, MossyRock (the originator of this post).

Thank you for the additional information.

It's just hard to fathom that I can be awarded 40% of my entire usual daily RAC from a single WU that ran in just a few minutes elapsed-time (my normal daily RAC is around 20K, and this one Collatz WU gave me over 8K).

No wonder people can easily rack up hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of credits a day with Collatz.
17) Message boards : Projects : Collatz Conjecture Credit (Message 51512)
Posted 24 Nov 2013 by MossyRock
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I reviewed some the overall top BOINC performers in terms of credit and ran across a guy that has received an insane amount of credit for the number of computers running. I dug into how he achieved it and discovered that he was mainly running Collatz Conjecture.

So, I attached to this project and began running WUs.

I got an eye-popping 8,255 credits for one Collatz WU which required 163 CPU seconds.
By comparison, I got 91 credits for one Seti@home WU which required 165 CPU seconds.
Also, I got 177 credits for one POGS WU which required 7,064 CPU seconds.

I'm not trying to blow a whistle here or be a party pooper, just trying to understand how or why there could be such credit award discrepancies, and why there isn't an enforced standard.

My stats: Win 7 Pro 64-bit, AMD 8-core CPU, 8GB memory, BOINC Manager version 7.2.28

Thanks.
18) Message boards : Questions and problems : Controlling BOINC when running under unprivileged account (Message 50927)
Posted 20 Oct 2013 by MossyRock
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Richard,

Ok, I understand.

To keep things simple, when these CPDN models finish, I will re-install BOINC so that it runs in user mode.

Thanks.
19) Message boards : Questions and problems : Controlling BOINC when running under unprivileged account (Message 50924)
Posted 20 Oct 2013 by MossyRock
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Claggy,

Sorry - my bad.

Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Boinc Version 7.0.64 (x64)
mxWidgets Version 2.8.10
Installation: Protected application execution; all other options were left at default values.
Currently running Climateprediction.net models

Does this give enough information?

Thanks.
20) Message boards : Questions and problems : Controlling BOINC when running under unprivileged account (Message 50917)
Posted 20 Oct 2013 by MossyRock
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Ok, I didn't hear from anyone so I tried unticking the "Run Manager at Login" box and rebooted. After rebooting, the manager didn't start, but my BOINC tasks were started up again under the unprivileged account "boinc_project".

Is there any way to prevent them from automatically starting when you are configured to run BOINC under an unprivileged account, and if so, a way to start them when you want them to run?


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