Posts by kira13

1) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Windows Defender is stopping BOINC at startup (Message 15662)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by kira13
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Assume my directories all have backslashes in them. For some reason, they didn't show up, and I didn't catch it in the preview. Sorry about that.

Kira
2) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Windows Defender is stopping BOINC at startup (Message 15661)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by kira13
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Answer from Rom:

Okay, to summarize, Defender isn’t classifying BOINC as malware or spyware. However, it is complaining about BOINC Manager requiring admin priviliges at startup. Therefore it blocks BOINC Manager from automatically starting up and leaves a system tray icon available to launch BOINC Manager.

It does not keep BOINC Manager from running if you launch BOINC Manager manually.

(Jord)
In the mean time, if other people can run Defender and give comparable information on what we asked for in this post, then please do so.


I could get that info you asked for if I set BOINC back to running at startup, but I don't think it will do any good. Defender is not refusing to start BOINC because it thinks it's malware; it will *always* block any startup program that needs administrative privileges (which is what Rom said above). I just recently read a simple explanation of why this is so, but can't remember where, so I'll attempt to state it as clearly as the source:

If programs that require admin. privileges are allowed to run at boot or logon, they could gain control over the system if they're malware. If Vista puts up a UAC-style prompt for a startup program, then malware could produce a denial-of-service attack by filling startup locations with programs that need admin. privileges.

To get BOINC to run at startup, it needs to not require admin. privileges to run. There is a workaround, though, which I'm using successfully (hence my need to re-allow BOINC to run at startup to get the blocking info): Use Task Scheduler to create a task to launch BOINC. You need to choose "Create Task..." (as opposed to "Create basic task...") from the right-hand side of the window under "Actions". I don't remember the specific steps under "Create a task..." now, but when the task has been created, it should have the following properties:

General tab: "When running the task, use the following user account" should be your user account; "Run only when user is logged on" should be chosen; "Run with highest privileges" should be checked.

Triggers tab: The trigger should be "At log on" and the user account in the details should match the one on the General tab.

Actions tab: The action should be "Start a program" and the details should be "C:Program FilesBOINCboincmgr.exe /s". When setting it up, only "C:Program FilesBOINCboincmgr.exe" goes in the "Program/script" box; "/s" goes in the "Add arguments (optional)" box. If you're copying stuff directly from the shortcut, just ignore the "Start in (optional)" box, even though it's in the shortcut. If you try to have it start in the "C:Program FilesBOINC" folder, which is the default in the shortcut, it won't start because in Vista users don't have permission to write to that folder by default.

Conditions tab: I left these at their defaults. I assume they can be changed to taste.

Settings tab: Same as Conditions tab; I left at default.




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