Posts by microchip

1) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Manager doesn't suspend CPU tasks (Message 51481)
Posted 23 Nov 2013 by microchip
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microchip,

What happens if you launch the 'boinc' executable manually? You can use CTRL-C to manually shutdown the client. If everything is working correctly you'll see all of the child processes of BOINC cleaned up.






That seems to work...

In regard to the manager, while looking deeply into it, I've observed the following:

If you close the GUI manager and don't manually kill the client, that client becomes a zombie process as the manager doesn't reap it. Now if you start again the GUI manager, it will start the client again so you'll have two clients running, the "good" one and the zombie one. Now if you suspend all computations through the manager, CPU tasks will continue to run.

I SUSPECT (and note that upper case suspect) that the reason why CPU tasks continue to run is because they just shift to the zombie client process instead.

This is just a suspicion as I don't know if this is possible, but I have no other explanation for it.
2) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Manager doesn't suspend CPU tasks (Message 51434)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by microchip
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So with .28, you select Activity->Suspend and CPU tasks don't react in any way?


Correct. They keep running


Doesn't stock version work there? 13.1 is apparently brand new so I would have expected the stock version to work fine.


If I try the installer .run file from the Download page, it throws a missing symbols errors from the wxWidget library. Thus the only way to use an up-to-date version is to compile it myself

Ok, the Manager hangs if you go that route. As a workaround you can use File->Exit or CTRL+Q.


I tried both, it asks to stop all running computations before exiting as an option. When I say yes to that, the GUI exits but the client remains in the background along with the running tasks. If you then go look for the manager, it remains in the process list (boincmgr). It gives you the impression that it is closed as you see the GUI going away, but it remains in the process list
3) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Manager doesn't suspend CPU tasks (Message 51433)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by microchip
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I just checked out 7.2.29 (can't see .30 in the tags) and the behavior is the same. Oh well...
4) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Manager doesn't suspend CPU tasks (Message 51429)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by microchip
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Here it only stops the GPU tasks, the CPU tasks continue to run. I have SIMAP, Cosmology, POGS and POEM as CPU tasks.

This is on a newly installed 64-bit openSUSE 13.1 system. At first I was happy to move to the 7.2.x series as I was stuck at 6.12.34 for a long time but that version no longer works on openSUSE 13.1 so I had to upgrade.

If you select from the BOINC sys tray icon to exit, and if you say "yes" to stop running tasks, it closes the GUI but remains in the process table. Its process is easy to find. It also lets other tasks remain in memory and doesn't send a shutdown signal to the client
5) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Manager doesn't suspend CPU tasks (Message 51423)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by microchip
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Which project? which apps? do they have the latest fixed api? What 'latest' are you talking about? latest recommended tag release, ie 7.2.28? the latest tag release, ie 7.2.30?,
or from master? If it's from master, then expect it not to work, this is Alpha level, and maybe even pre-Alpha level.

Since this Forum is mainly just for users, you're best to report it to the Boinc Alpha list, But have some manners, if you go around posting the following you won't get any help:

BAD PROGRAMMING, FOLKS. FIX YOUR MESS

and i'll also refer you to this thread, so you can supply some required info:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8600

Claggy


It doesn't matter which project or task, they all display the same problem. When you select in the manager to stop computing before it exits, it doesn't stop the tasks at all. A simple 'top' lists them using CPU time and crunching. If you start the manager again, it displays that all tasks are suspended but it reports the progress of the computation so you can see the percentages of these apparently "suspended" tasks change. What it further does it make the client program a zombie so the only way to fix this mess is to reboot (can't kill a zombie)

Regarding the version, I did a git clone and then selected the 7.2.28 tag. There is no "stable" source code package ready for download so git is the only way
6) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Manager doesn't suspend CPU tasks (Message 51421)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by microchip
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OK... after a bit of investigation, it seems that whenever one chooses to quit the manager and selecting the "stop computing" option it asks before quitting, it doesn't really quit at all but remains in the process list. It also turns the boinc client into a Zombie!

BAD PROGRAMMING, FOLKS. FIX YOUR MESS!
7) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Manager doesn't suspend CPU tasks (Message 51418)
Posted 21 Nov 2013 by microchip
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Hi,

I'm running latest git version of BOINC on Linux 64-bit, self compiled. When I start the manager and let it compute for a while then Suspend all tasks, CPU tasks continue to run so I have to terminate them manually by sending a kill signal to the running tasks. Sending a kill signal to the boinc client, doesn't seem to do anything to these tasks. They continue to run.

It's pretty annoying so can this be fixed, please?

Thanks
8) Message boards : Questions and problems : openssl 1.0.0e-1.fc16 (Message 41224)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by microchip
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on openSUSE, it ships the older 0.9.8 library in its repos, along with the newer 1.0.0. Check to see if Fedora's repos also have it
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : How to run BOINC in command line? (Message 41217)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by microchip
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OK, I think I fixed it. Never mind :)
10) Message boards : Questions and problems : How to run BOINC in command line? (Message 41216)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by microchip
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You'll have to start the BOINC client (localhost) first. That's the boinc or boinc.exe executable (depending on your operating system).

Gruß,
Gundolf


Thanks, that worked

However, after attaching to BAM! I do not get any tasks for crunching. Do I need to do something else before getting tasks?

while looking at stdout file, I see the following next to each project
Computer ID not assigned yet
11) Message boards : Questions and problems : How to run BOINC in command line? (Message 41214)
Posted 18 Nov 2011 by microchip
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Hi,

I'm trying to run BOINC from the CLI but all I get is "can't connect to localhost". Below is how I try to start BOINC. Am I doing something wrong?

./boinccmd --host localhost --password <passwd from gui_rpc_auth.cfg> --join_acct_mgr http://bam.boincstats.com/ <my_usrname> <my_passwd>


Any ideas?
12) Message boards : Questions and problems : Why is the Messages tab removed? (Message 40133)
Posted 11 Sep 2011 by microchip
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I see. Thanks for the info :)
13) Message boards : Questions and problems : Why is the Messages tab removed? (Message 40131)
Posted 11 Sep 2011 by microchip
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Hi,

I just upgraded my boinc to version 6.12.34 (Linux) and upon starting the manager I see there's no longer a Messages tab available. Why is that? It was really useful to me




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