Posts by Nigel Garvey

1) Message boards : Questions and problems : Cannot update to 7.10.2 (Message 86504)
Posted 9 Jun 2018 by Nigel Garvey
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Thanks, Charlie.

Sorry I wasn't able to test the effectiveness of the changes myself. My own Intel Macs are both running later systems.
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Cannot update to 7.10.2 (Message 86401)
Posted 31 May 2018 by Nigel Garvey
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I'm more familiar with AppleScriptObjC than with Objective-C itself, but I think the first line's telling you that BOINCManager 7.10.2 tried to use a system API which reads an NSWindow instance's 'backingScaleFactor' property. According to the Xcode documentation, this property was introduced in macOS 10.7, so your 10.6.8 system won't know what it means.
3) Message boards : Projects : CPDN project going offline this afternoon (Message 85893)
Posted 16 Apr 2018 by Nigel Garvey
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… but for the volunteers, if not already for some, we will be soon without tasks to process.

That's been the case for macOS and Linux users since the middle of last year and doesn't look set to change. I'd detach from the project if it weren't for its new "data protection" policy of disassociating ex-contributors from their credit.
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC Screensaver information for OS 10.13 High Sierra (Message 82983)
Posted 15 Nov 2017 by Nigel Garvey
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As it says above, it's the screensavers distributed by the individual projects which need to be updated now. Meanwhile, the BOINC "overview" screensaver can still be used by going to the "Desktop & Screen Saver" tab in System Preferences, selecting the BOINC Screensaver and, in the Screen Saver Options, setting the "Run overview screensaver for" time to the same as the "Blank screensaver after" time and setting the "Run project screensavers for" time to 0. Or you can use one of the other screensavers, of course. BOINC tasks will still run OK.
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : Tasks reported while network activity suspended (Message 67341)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Nigel Garvey
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Thanks for the clarification. :)
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : Tasks reported while network activity suspended (Message 67326)
Posted 28 Jan 2016 by Nigel Garvey
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While I think of it:

After I'd switched on my router yesterday morning, but twenty-five minutes before my BOINC client was due to resume network activity, I reset the CPDN project to clear the debris from the recent batch of download failures. The client immediately reported completed tasks from other projects, requested more, and was granted them — all while network activity was supposedly suspended. The associated uploads and downloads, however, weren't attempted until network activity was resumed. Is this correct behaviour? What would have happened if the router hadn't been on at the time?

BOINC 7.6.22
Mac OS 10.11.3
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : OSX BOINC 6.12.35 "you currently are not authorized to manage the client" (Message 60200)
Posted 9 Feb 2015 by Nigel Garvey
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Hi SekeRob2.

Thanks for the suggestion. It hasn't stopped the update messages appearing in the Notices and Event Log after a relaunch of BOINC, but I'll leave the edit in place for a while to see how things go. It's not really that much of an annoyance anyway. :)
8) Message boards : Questions and problems : OSX BOINC 6.12.35 "you currently are not authorized to manage the client" (Message 60185)
Posted 9 Feb 2015 by Nigel Garvey
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tikimojo wrote:
Am I the last person still running BOINC and seti@home on a PPC machine?


My early-2005 G5 (Mac OS 10.5.8) has been happily running BOINC 6.12.35 for the past three and a half years and is still returning error-free results for Einstein@home, MilkyWay@home, and SETI@home. The only annoyance is that the Notices system keeps nagging me to download and install the latest version!

I've no idea why you should have problems with BOINC 6.12.35 on your G5. But if downgrading makes them go away and the machine's still returning valid results and has no other problems, there's probably no point in trying to force the issue.
9) Message boards : Projects : Orbit@Home Revival Imminent? (Message 55111)
Posted 28 Jul 2014 by Nigel Garvey
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It's been a year now.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8531
10) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Wishlist for Mac (Message 50297)
Posted 23 Aug 2013 by Nigel Garvey
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There is also a check box in System Preferences -> General to tell OS X not to reopen all windows when relaunching apps.


And there's a check box in System Preferences -> Users & Groups ("Accounts" on older systems) -> Login Items which determines whether or not BOINCManager is hidden when it opens on log-in. It's worth making sure this is still ticked.

NG
11) Message boards : Projects : orbit@home "to Resume Activities" (Message 50015)
Posted 28 Jul 2013 by Nigel Garvey
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I've just noticed this on the OAH home page, from a few days ago:

Project to Resume Activities in Fall 2013

Submitted by tricaric on Tue, 07/23/2013 - 20:36.

We have some good news: the orbit@home project has been selected for funding by the NASA Near Earth Object Observations program. We plan to resume activities in fall 2013.


NG
12) Message boards : News : BOINC 6.12.26 released to public (Message 38353)
Posted 11 Jun 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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Who are you then that you are so important that the developers have to listen to you? Why all the tantrums, why all the (veiled) demands? What have you done (lately) for the BOINC developers? Paid them money? Helped them test the software? Helped them program any part of it?


[Snip]

All-in-all, I personally don't care whether you insult the users. I am not convinced to use the 6.12 version. And may I suggest that you read up on customer relations prior to herding cattle in the future?


And in any case, re-read the posting rules. New arrivals shouldn't have to remind moderators about them.

• No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people, or to hijack a thread.
• No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting.
13) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Recent modifications to Boinc Mgr look - not liking it [have included suggestions] (Message 38298)
Posted 9 Jun 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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All right now, most of what you request is for every detail to be user configurable.


I see that beastman has now answered on his own account; but it seems clear that most of what he was actually requesting was a reversal of the ugly and unhelpful cosmetic changes in BOINC Manager 6.12.26, by which, like nearly everyone else who's posted on the subject, he's appalled. (Like me, he appears to have joined these fora specifically to express this.) His suggestion of configurablity was a constructive attempt to compromise with those who presumably think the changes are a cool idea.

Applications which have highly customizable appearances often have a large paid staff of programmers, or are such that the UI is the major part of the application.

Please do know that BOINC is being developed and programmed by 3 developers only, 2 of which are full-time programmers, one a part-timer. The bulk of their efforts must be directed to making sure that BOINC handles the computational tasks correctly and efficiently, does not interfere with other uses of the volunteers' computers, has support for developing technologies such as GPU computing, etc.

The BOINC Manager is a tool for controlling and monitoring the computation. There is just no time to deal with cosmetic niceties. Sorry.


Many people who were keen enough to update immediately to 6.12.26 have announced in these fora that they've reverted, or intend to revert, to what they were using before. (Only Windows users, as far as I know, have boincmgr.exe files they can keep.) Given the amount of resistance to the new BOINC Manager, there seems little point in developing BOINC any further until this resistance is addressed. And given that the meagre development team had time to make the unpopular cosmetic changes in the first place, few disgruntled users will have any sympathy for the idea that they can't be undone because there's no time to make the GUI fully user-configurable.
14) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Recent modifications to Boinc Mgr look - not liking it [have included suggestions] (Message 38297)
Posted 9 Jun 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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I understood x86 to refer to a particular Intel architecture, which is quite different from PowerPC architecture.

I expect what's happening here is that the Intel and PowerPC running codes are sharing message resources.

[trac]changeset:23674[/trac] shows "MGR: Fix About dialog to show (PowerPC) instead of (x86) when appropriate."

(I did forward it to the developer. ;-))


Ah. A missing #elif! :)
15) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Recent modifications to Boinc Mgr look - not liking it [have included suggestions] (Message 38248)
Posted 7 Jun 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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and have found a very minor mistake in the "About BOINC Manager" display. It gives the version as "6.12.26 (x86)", whereas of course my G5 is running the Mac "universal" application's PowerPC code.

The distinction (x86) and (x64) are for the 32bit and 64bit versions of BOINC.
I suppose the 'universal' PowerPC version is 32bit?


I understood x86 to refer to a particular Intel architecture, which is quite different from PowerPC architecture.

I expect what's happening here is that the Intel and PowerPC running codes are sharing message resources.
16) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Recent modifications to Boinc Mgr look - not liking it [have included suggestions] (Message 38247)
Posted 7 Jun 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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I got that information from the developer for the Mac, plus the whole email conversation between the developers about it. I doubt it wasn't in the 6.10.58 version on the Mac, as the source code that BOINC is compiled from for Windows, Linux and the Macintosh is the same source code between all platforms.

So if one has stripes, all have stripes.


I didn't say there were no stripes in 6.10.58. I said there were no darker lines along their borders — ie. between the grey and the white. That also seems to be what beastman said about them in his eloquent posts.
17) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Recent modifications to Boinc Mgr look - not liking it [have included suggestions] (Message 38237)
Posted 7 Jun 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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Ageless wrote:
The light-gray "rules" (lines) and light-gray "stripes" have been there since 6.10.40. The developers did this because the alternating white and gray "stripes" did not show up well on all monitors. It was implemented in March 2010, and thus far no one has made a complaint about it.


The light-grey "rules" (darker-grey borders to the light-grey stripes, more pronounced than in your graphic in Message 38192) do not appear in any of the "recommended" Mac versions before 6.12.26. Their ugly appearance is what I complained of in the News thread last month.

By the way, I've just temporarily reinstalled 6.12.26 on my G5 to see if this and the other changes are as bad as I remembered (they are) and have found a very minor mistake in the "About BOINC Manager" display. It gives the version as "6.12.26 (x86)", whereas of course my G5 is running the Mac "universal" application's PowerPC code.
18) Message boards : Questions and problems : What exactly does this mean??? (Message 38070)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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I did work this out empirically a few months ago, but I've forgotten some of the details since sorting out my preferred settings.

As Ageless pointed out, there's a BOINC "overview" screensaver (which tells you to what projects you're attached, the progress of the currently processing task(s), how many points you've got, etc.) and screensavers for many of the projects. Computers with more than one processor can process more than one project task at a time.

My own settings (as show in Mac OS X) are:
Blank screen saver after: 4 minutes
Run overview screensaver for: 0 minutes (=never)
Run project screensavers for: 4 minutes
Switch between project screensavers every: 1 minutes

The effect is:
The BOINC overview screensaver isn't shown at all, although some BOINC messages are shown in the absence of running project screensavers.
The screensavers for the currently processing tasks are run in sequence for a total of four minutes, switching between them every minute. My machines can process two tasks at a time, so it's task 1 -> task 2 -> task 1 -> task 2 -> stop. At the end of four minutes, the sequence stops running and the screen goes blank. If one of the projects doesn't have a screensaver, the sequence is monopolised by the one which does. If neither have one, then the BOINC fill-in stuff (but not the overview) is shown.

Hope this helps a bit.
19) Message boards : News : BOINC 6.12.26 released to public (Message 37854)
Posted 18 May 2011 by Nigel Garvey
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The "Messages" tab has gone! There's now a "Notices" tab which only shows a message saying there are no notices. The columns in the "Tasks" tab have been reordered. The previously subtle shaded lines across each page are now outlined and horrible to behold. The claimed improvements are only relevant to the Windows and Linux platforms. This release appears to be both pointless and a backward step for Mac users.

Fortunately, reinstalling 6.10.58 proved possible and successful on my G5.


By the way, I had to create a site account in order to post this. It says on the account creation page: NOTE: If you use the BOINC Manager, don't use this form. Just run BOINC, select Add Project, and enter an email address and password.

"Add Project" only exists in BOINC Manager's Simple View. In Advanced View, to which my client's always set, it's called "Attach to project or account manager…". Even though I guessed the latter was what was meant, it proved impossible to create an account here by this means. The note on the account creation page needs to be either removed or corrected.

NG




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