Posts by Bill Freauff

41) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 110270)
Posted 29 Oct 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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They have a Twitter page that is more active if anyone has a Twitter account ??

Bill F
42) Message boards : Questions and problems : Milkyway@Home - Massive Performance Issue - 1 Job Taking 8 CPUs vs 8 Jobs Taking 1 CPU Each (Message 110166)
Posted 21 Oct 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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The BOINC Statistics display for host average.
By which.I assume the graphical display in BOINC Manager.

Many years ago, as an undergraduate at one of the major physics labs in the UK, I was taught two lessons which have stayed with me for over fifty years (the actual physics, sadly, has not).

Lesson 1: Do every calculation twice. Once, using the best technology and the highest precision available (at the time, that was a sliderule). And again, with a pencil on the back of an envelope, to 'order of magnitude' - nearest power of 10 - precision only. That checks that you put the decimal point at the right place in the first answer.

Lesson 2: A number is meaningless unless you state the units it's measured in.

In this case, your numbers are 7000, 2000, 4500. Those are measured in "BOINC credits". They should be equivalent to "cobblestones", which is a defined number in terms of the number of calculations performed in reaching the scientific answer. Many of us wish that this was still the case, so that we can do the sort of comparisons that you are attempting.

But unfortunately, and disappointingly, the direct link between 'work done' and 'credits awarded' was broken over 10 years ago. Each project is free to choose its own credit reward rate, and as you have found, they don't all keep that consistent, even between the different task types within their own project.

As things stand at the moment, you have two options. Either take a deep breath, relax, and stop worrying about it. Or take it up with the research/administration team at Milkyway@Home: they are in control of their own credit rewards, and have the power to change it. But it may be low on their list of priorities.



Very well said....
43) Message boards : The Lounge : Grumbles, Glory and All Your Off Topic Discussions (Message 110110)
Posted 15 Oct 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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Posting because noone else has posted here for the last 2 days.


Thank you I was feeling a little lost...
44) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 109833)
Posted 15 Sep 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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I have submitted an email to TACC regarding BOINC@TACC. So far I have received two responses. One was automated and one said that my email concern had been forwarded to the correct people for action.

Bill F


Ok I received the following update from the TACC in Austin TX

Bill F
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Hello William,

The BOINC@TACC project has been discontinued. The lead of the project has moved to a different institution and we are no longer hosting the research. Thanks.

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Virginia Trueheart, MSIS
45) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 109832)
Posted 14 Sep 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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I have submitted an email to TACC regarding BOINC@TACC. So far I have received two responses. One was automated and one said that my email concern had been forwarded to the correct people for action.

Bill F
46) Message boards : The Lounge : Grumbles, Glory and All Your Off Topic Discussions (Message 109724)
Posted 30 Aug 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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A big thumb's up ... for your Voyager thoughts an opinion. I try to check their status every 6 months or so.

Bill F
47) Message boards : The Lounge : Grumbles, Glory and All Your Off Topic Discussions (Message 108498)
Posted 17 Jun 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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jeeze 100A wow. just think for a second. your bathroom heater, 10A maybe? think it will start a fire? maybe you better only deliver 1A to the house. Yes put a 1A trip on the transformer that serves half a dozen houses. Then its Peter safe.


Nothing is Peter safe....
48) Message boards : The Lounge : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 108320)
Posted 5 Jun 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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Have I ever shared the analogy I use to teach novice users the difference between downloading and installing software?

It's like coming home from holiday.
First, the taxi driver dumps your suitcase on the garden path. (that's downloading)
Then, you unpack and distribute. The souvenirs go on the mantelpiece, the guide books on the bookshelf, the half-eaten British Rail sandwich in the bin, the dirty laundry into the washing machine, and the empty suitcase into the closet under the stairs. (that's installing)



I love your analogy ! I tip my hat to you.

Bill F
49) Message boards : BOINC client : Release Notes with out a Program (Message 108311)
Posted 4 Jun 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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From: https://github.com/BOINC/boinc-community/blob/master/contributors_calls/2022-06-02-minutes.md

Client Release Update

Vitalii stated that v7.20.x was nearly ready for Alpha testing. The big change is with respect to Windows and the new security libraries. The internal documentation was restructured. Another change is the use/support for C++19. There will also be a new release for OSX. The clients will no longer rely on the certificate bundles and instead use the system certificates.

Richard asked if it is still necessary for David to be in the loop for building and releasing the client. Vitalli "yes and no". Vitalii has some of the credentials.

Richard mentioned that the release notes have/had been prematurely published on the Web server which created confusion in the community.

General discussion the state of the BOINC project/community



Wow now there is a great update regarding our update path moving forward.

Thank you for the communications
Bill F
50) Message boards : BOINC client : Release Notes with out a Program (Message 108294)
Posted 1 Jun 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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Well the release notes for 7.20.0 were released a long time ago but the Program seems to be as mythical as a Unicorn.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes

Bill F
51) Message boards : Questions and problems : Next new release? (Message 107909)
Posted 21 Apr 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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I am sorry for the false alarm below. Someone appears to have played a weak joke and I fell for it.

Thanks
Bill F
52) Message boards : Questions and problems : New BOINC Client released 17.20.0 Windows 64-bit (Message 107892)
Posted 19 Apr 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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Yep egg on face ... fooled again.

Bill F
53) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC 7.18.1 doesn't work. (Message 107891)
Posted 19 Apr 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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17.20.0 for Windows 64 was released yesterday .... but it shows Windows only on Download page

Bill F
54) Message boards : Questions and problems : Next new release? (Message 107886)
Posted 19 Apr 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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17.20.0 is here ....

See https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=14651

Thanks
Bill F
55) Message boards : Questions and problems : New BOINC Client released 17.20.0 Windows 64-bit (Message 107885)
Posted 19 Apr 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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Just noticed

New BOINC Client released 17.20.0 Windows 64-bit

Release notes at https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes

Download from standard BOINC download page.

Note VM version is still 6.0.14 regardless of what download page says. And release date was not updated.


Bill F
56) Message boards : Projects : The Ramanujan Machine (Message 107854)
Posted 14 Apr 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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New small project out of Technion - Israel Institute of Technology. It has been running for about 5 months and has 429 users. Early bugs disappeared pretty quick. It has CPU only work for 64 bit Windows and Linux.

https://rnma.xyz/boinc/

Bill F
57) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 107718)
Posted 5 Apr 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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They originally said toward the latter part of April, but I don't remember the date. It could change in any case.
Yes but there was an update I can no longer find, all the transition is done, final testing "can start" as of a week ago.


The original date thrown up was Apr 22. But like all projects communications could be improved.

Bill F
58) Message boards : Projects : Project DENIS has restarted (Message 107572)
Posted 25 Mar 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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Project DENIS down on the retired list has restarted and is in testing status with a fresh news article and reloaded systems

Here is the Project URL to add the project into your BOINC client
https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/

Bill F
59) Message boards : Questions and problems : Wrong URL for Einstein (Message 107552)
Posted 23 Mar 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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If you use the BOINC Manager 'attach' wizard, it goes through a extra stage: it calls get_project_config.php to fetch the master_url and attaches to that.

If you use boinccmd to attach to the project, you are responsible for verifying that you have the up-to-date address, by following links link the one you've kindly posted.

If you are attached to a project by an Account Manager, you are in the hands of the administrator of that AM, who may or may not be keeping alert to changes and applying them in a timely fashion.

There's an open request to get this mess sorted out (#2642), but no progress.



I had taken the time about 2 years ago to test all of the new account attach addresses on that version of BOINC and make a list of projects that were going to http instead of https. I did this because I had noted that once the project was loaded the client continued to use an http even though the project had an https. The response that I got was kind of MYOB the cleint will take care of it and implied that I did not have enough experience with BOINC to be helpful. I shrugged my virtual shoulders and deleted everything. In May I will roll into my 23 year of distributive computing.
60) Message boards : Android : No jobs for android? (Message 107524)
Posted 22 Mar 2022 by Profile Bill Freauff
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Another Project that has one application for Android is Yoyo@home. Their Cruncher ogr application has an Android application.

I am completing these tasks with the following system
ARM
ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l) [Impl 0x41 Arch 7 Variant 0x0 Part 0xc07 Rev 3]

Android
3.10.9-12390409 (Android 7.1.1)


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