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41) Message boards : Questions and problems : (OSX) BOINC suddenly unstable (Message 40731)
Posted 20 Oct 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
Ok, thanks. That's a version meant for testing, no? I will give it a shot and post results in a few moments.

What about my system could bring up an error so unusual the developer's attention is required? (or is that SOC and I'm just over-thinking?)
42) Message boards : Questions and problems : (OSX) BOINC suddenly unstable (Message 40729)
Posted 20 Oct 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
Mac OS X 10.6.8
Intel Core i5 M540
NViDIA GT 330M
4GiB RAM (yes that is not a lot)

BOINC 6.12.35. Latest version.

So everything was running fine, but then I came back one afternoon and noticed BOINC was flat-out frozen. CPU usage monitor (iStat) said process boinc was using ~80% CPU and didn't mention anything about primegrid-llrini686 or any other applications it was running (wanless2, QCN, and WUProp).

Quit the unresponsive boinc process.

Now whenever I try to start BOINC - even after reinstalling it- I get this:

Process:         BOINCManager [59377]
Path:            /Applications/BOINCManager.app/Contents/MacOS/BOINCManager
Identifier:      edu.berkeley.boinc
Version:         BOINC version 6.12.35 (6.12.35)
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [203]

Date/Time:       2011-10-20 08:48:55.671 -0400
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version:  6

Interval Since Last Report:          291860 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           12
Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  2035336 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   11
Anonymous UUID:                      DCCB06FE-D236-416A-9D2F-FC1F0116715B

Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Application Specific Information:
*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSImageCacheException', reason: 'Cannot lock focus on image <NSImage 0x747520 Size={0, 0} Reps=(
)>, because it is size zero.'
*** Call stack at first throw:
(
	0   CoreFoundation                      0x90dc56ca __raiseError + 410
	1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x924085a9 objc_exception_throw + 56
	2   CoreFoundation                      0x90dc53f8 +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 136
	3   CoreFoundation                      0x90dc536a +[NSException raise:format:] + 58
	4   AppKit                              0x92fc3596 -[NSImage _lockFocusOnRepresentation:rect:context:hints:flipped:] + 267
	5   AppKit                              0x92fc347f __-[NSImage lockFocusWithRect:context:hints:flipped:]_block_invoke_1 + 114
	6   AppKit                              0x92eb3820 -[NSImage _usingBestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:body:] + 189
	7   AppKit                              0x92fc3405 -[NSImage lockFocusWithRect:context:hints:flipped:] + 204
	8   AppKit                              0x9301a670 -[NSImage lockFocusFlipped:] + 138
	9   AppKit                              0x9301a5dd -[NSImage lockFocus] + 64
	10  AppKit                              0x93070af0 -[NSWindow _generateScaledBackground] + 318
	11  AppKit                              0x93070837 -[NSWindow(NSWindow_CarbonEventHandlers) _setWindowDepth] + 126
	12  AppKit                              0x9350575d -[NSWindow(NSWindow_CarbonEventHandlers) _installCarbonWindowEventHandlers] + 121
	13  AppKit                              0x93070368 -[NSWindow(NSCarbonExtensions) windowRef] + 561
	14  AppKit                              0x933cfe32 -[NSStatusBarWindow windowRef] + 80
	15  AppKit                              0x92e7261a -[NSWindow _reallyDoOrderWindow:relativeTo:findKey:forCounter:force:isModal:] + 1112
	16  AppKit                              0x934c6821 -[NSWindow orderFrontRegardless] + 82
	17  AppKit                              0x933cfaf3 -[NSStatusBar(NSStatusBarCGS) _CGSinsertWindow:withPriority:] + 355
	18  AppKit                              0x933cd71d -[NSStatusBar _insertStatusItem:withPriority:] + 80
	19  AppKit                              0x933d0e28 -[NSStatusItem _initInStatusBar:withLength:withPriority:hidden:] + 462
	20  AppKit                              0x933d0082 -[NSStatusItem _initInStatusBar:withLength:withPriority:] + 63
	21  AppKit                              0x933d00f1 +[NSStatusItem _itemInStatusBar:withLength:withPriority:] + 105
	22  AppKit                              0x933cd853 -[NSStatusBar _statusItemWithLength:withPriority:] + 58
	23  AppKit                              0x933cd8d3 -[NSStatusBar statusItemWithLength:] + 49
	24  SystemMenu                          0x017ad4f2 0x0 + 24827122
	25  SystemMenu                          0x017adce9 SetUpSystemMenu + 205
	26  BOINCManager                        0x00056966 0x0 + 354662
	27  BOINCManager                        0x00056b3c 0x0 + 355132
	28  BOINCManager                        0x000378d2 0x0 + 227538
	29  BOINCManager                        0x00037db1 0x0 + 228785
	30  BOINCManager                        0x002be437 0x0 + 2876471
	31  BOINCManager                        0x000354be 0x0 + 218302
	32  BOINCManager                        0x000278e2 0x0 + 162018
	33  BOINCManager                        0x00027809 0x0 + 161801
)
 

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x90e10a37 ___TERMINATING_DUE_TO_UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION___ + 7
1   libobjc.A.dylib               	0x924085a9 objc_exception_throw + 56
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x90dc53f8 +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] + 136
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x90dc536a +[NSException raise:format:] + 58
4   com.apple.AppKit              	0x92fc3596 -[NSImage _lockFocusOnRepresentation:rect:context:hints:flipped:] + 267
5   com.apple.AppKit              	0x92fc347f __-[NSImage lockFocusWithRect:context:hints:flipped:]_block_invoke_1 + 114
6   com.apple.AppKit              	0x92eb3820 -[NSImage _usingBestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:body:] + 189
7   com.apple.AppKit              	0x92fc3405 -[NSImage lockFocusWithRect:context:hints:flipped:] + 204
8   com.apple.AppKit              	0x9301a670 -[NSImage lockFocusFlipped:] + 138
9   com.apple.AppKit              	0x9301a5dd -[NSImage lockFocus] + 64
10  com.apple.AppKit              	0x93070af0 -[NSWindow _generateScaledBackground] + 318
11  com.apple.AppKit              	0x93070837 -[NSWindow(NSWindow_CarbonEventHandlers) _setWindowDepth] + 126
12  com.apple.AppKit              	0x9350575d -[NSWindow(NSWindow_CarbonEventHandlers) _installCarbonWindowEventHandlers] + 121
13  com.apple.AppKit              	0x93070368 -[NSWindow(NSCarbonExtensions) windowRef] + 561
14  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933cfe32 -[NSStatusBarWindow windowRef] + 80
15  com.apple.AppKit              	0x92e7261a -[NSWindow _reallyDoOrderWindow:relativeTo:findKey:forCounter:force:isModal:] + 1112
16  com.apple.AppKit              	0x934c6821 -[NSWindow orderFrontRegardless] + 82
17  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933cfaf3 -[NSStatusBar(NSStatusBarCGS) _CGSinsertWindow:withPriority:] + 355
18  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933cd71d -[NSStatusBar _insertStatusItem:withPriority:] + 80
19  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933d0e28 -[NSStatusItem _initInStatusBar:withLength:withPriority:hidden:] + 462
20  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933d0082 -[NSStatusItem _initInStatusBar:withLength:withPriority:] + 63
21  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933d00f1 +[NSStatusItem _itemInStatusBar:withLength:withPriority:] + 105
22  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933cd853 -[NSStatusBar _statusItemWithLength:withPriority:] + 58
23  com.apple.AppKit              	0x933cd8d3 -[NSStatusBar statusItemWithLength:] + 49
24  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x017ad4f2 0x17ac000 + 5362
25  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x017adce9 SetUpSystemMenu + 205
26  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x00056966 0x1000 + 350566
27  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x00056b3c 0x1000 + 351036
28  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x000378d2 0x1000 + 223442
29  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x00037db1 0x1000 + 224689
30  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x002be437 0x1000 + 2872375
31  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x000354be 0x1000 + 214206
32  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x000278e2 0x1000 + 157922
33  edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x00027809 0x1000 + 157705

Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f5382 kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f5a9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f4f59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f4cfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f4781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f45c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f4412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f49a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f45c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921ceb42 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921fc6f8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1089
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9224505f pthread_cond_wait + 48
3   edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x000e2b08 0x1000 + 924424
4   edu.berkeley.boinc            	0x002c4ded 0x1000 + 2899437
5   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore	0x90e9b54a PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
6   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921fc259 _pthread_start + 345
7   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921fc0de thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f4412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f49a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x921f45c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x92408585  ecx: 0xa0205540  edx: 0x0000003b
  edi: 0xa021cab0  esi: 0x00747640  ebp: 0xbfffefb8  esp: 0xbfffefa0
   ss: 0x00000023  efl: 0x00000286  eip: 0x90e10a37   cs: 0x0000001b
   ds: 0x00000023   es: 0x00000023   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x0000000f
  cr2: 0xa0812e70


I cannot interpret that jumbled code. It just happens.

Also why's BOINC trying to run as x86? I have 64-bit enabled everywhere...

Is my system unstable? I am typing this on a G4 just in case there's something internally wrong with the Mac listed above. If that's the case, please let me know you think it's not BOINC so I can take it to work and run advanced diagnostics. I'm a computer tech with a baffling problem - sorry!
43) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 40662)
Posted 13 Oct 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
Disregard last part of my previous post...FreeHAL just came back online. :)
44) Message boards : Questions and problems : Wrong CPID on some Projects (Message 40659)
Posted 13 Oct 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
I've not retired any machines, ever (seriously, find a list of my hosts somewhere, it's mainly 5+ year-old technology)

But the second part, yup I've done that. I've done that a lot. Funny thing is I always merge them on project sites. There's one machine been through three or so hard drives, so it's been at PrimeGrid "three times," but PG sees it as one host while Free-DC et al list like seven.

I guess something deep in the BOINC end of things is really opposed to deleting and/or merging CPIDs?
45) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 40657)
Posted 13 Oct 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
DistRTGen is no longer down

FreeHAL is, though. Whole site.
46) Message boards : Questions and problems : Wrong CPID on some Projects (Message 40641)
Posted 12 Oct 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
Alright, thanks.

Changed my e-mail at a few of said projects and now all my stats are correct (except a few projects that don't matter because they're either defunct or prone to huge amounts of downtime / have no work ever.

I'm a bit more confused as to why stats sites seem to think I have 20 or so hosts when in reality I have 8, but that's probably due to things like attaching remotely or through different user accounts or on different networks, since for the most part my host CPIDs are correct and contiguous on the projects I participate in the most.

Thanks for the tips!
47) Message boards : Questions and problems : Wrong CPID on some Projects (Message 40635)
Posted 11 Oct 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
I participate in over 25 BOINC projects and have been using BOINC for about a year now. A few of the projects I contribute to, however, don't show up on say Free-DC under my main account because for some reason they all have different CPIDs.

Checking the wiki (a article right from trac) yields:

• When the BOINC client makes an RPC request to a scheduling server, it scans the accounts with the same email address, finds the one with the oldest creation time, and sends the CPID stored with that account.
• If the scheduling server receives a CPID different from the one in its database, it updates the database with the new CPID.


This is not particularly helpful since I cannot find any .xml containing my account CPID, only my host CPID. The lack of continuity bugs me. I want everything associated with my one CPID that has 50M+ credits associated with it.

Sorry if this isn't the right place. I had presumed this was an issue solved client-side, but if there's no way to go about it, I can deal.
48) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 38735)
Posted 30 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
AQUA's webpage is functional but there is no new work yet. I believe outstanding WUs can still be submitted but it doesn't appear the validator is up yet. Apparently there should be no point loss and credits will still be granted where they are and have been due. Good news indeed!

I believe Collatz was down earlier, for maintenance it said. I couldn't reach the site at all but it's all working fine now.

For those who like DNETC and/or want to participate in the RC5-72 effort through BOINC, try Moo! Wrapper. Same/similar credits and runtime for both CPU and GPU apps (~45 min on OC GTX460, not too bad). It is the DNETC Client app.
49) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 38615)
Posted 21 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
AQUA's database is all messed up - "no account with the e-mail address (mine) exists" and then on the home page, "No database selected." So yes, project-specific...but what could that be? I've not seen this before.
50) Message boards : BOINC Manager : 6.12.26 Mac BOINC as Service Broken (Message 38462)
Posted 15 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
I don't have that file...a bunch of other kernel configurations but not that one in particular. Interesting.

At any rate the 6.12.33 client made it through the night alright and shows no signs of serious bugs. Good!
51) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 38456)
Posted 15 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
I must be a reverse psychic or something...within the hour following my post both DNETC and WUProp@Home came back online...though I don't know how long the former's stability will last. I think they may have had some residual server troubles following their latest challenge, perhaps.
52) Message boards : BOINC Manager : 6.12.26 Mac BOINC as Service Broken (Message 38452)
Posted 15 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
Thanks Charlie (and others who posted here) for letting me know it's not something I did wrong whilst installing BOINC!

I have downloaded the 6.12.33 for Mac (I run the latest 64-bit Snow Leopard) and will see how it fares. The 6.12.26 never lasted through the night - would always disconnect from the client, similar problems to those stated above.

Might I recommend you remove 6.12.26 entirely from the download list, if it is in fact full of serious bugs. Or at least make it something other than the "recommended version" ;)

Gonna test that now.
53) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 38451)
Posted 15 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
DNETC is confirmed offline - connection and ping time out.

There have been a lot of issues with their server lately. I don't think they actually have it back yet, so they may be running a sort of motley combination of backups until everything is 100% back to normal. I've got a bunch of WUs from them I downloaded yesterday, so it's probably (hopefully) a minor glitch.

WUProp@Home is also offline - infinite loop when connecting, then timeout. BOINC sees it as "feeder not running" but in reality it looks like a problem with both the BOINC side of things and the data-driven webpages, as I cannot access the site to find out what's wrong!

54) Message boards : BOINC Manager : 6.12.26 Mac BOINC as Service Broken (Message 38236)
Posted 7 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
I have the same problem as Penguirl but I do not run BOINC as a service. I simply launch the manager from the Dock. It runs under my account, which is fine since it is the only account on this computer and it runs 24/7.

This problem never seems to arise if I am actively using the machine, which comprises a good chunk of the day. However, if I leave it overnight, I find in the morning that attempting to click anything results in an infinite "Communicating with BOINC Manager..." message and I need to restart BOINC entirely.

Oddly it would appear my tasks continue to run even when I cannot click anything in the Manager.

Sorry if this is throwing a wrench in the mix. Next time this problem crops up I will go into Activity Monitor and also the Console, as the current apps I am running use Java (Constellation's TrackJack). Beyond that...bit lost.
55) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 38176)
Posted 5 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
Hmm yes, it would appear that DNETC is back. When tested 3 hours ago only the index page was loading and I could not get WUs on any machine. So now I have, and presume they're done upgrading whatever for now.
56) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 38170)
Posted 5 Jun 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
DNETC has been offline a few days and they say it should be back soon. All the admins said was "project will be offline from 02 June" and not when it'll be back.

Connect to server fails with "cannot open logfile" so...I'd imagine they are significantly upgrading.

MilkyWay is down too, eh? Good to know it's not just me.

Sudoku@VTaiwan seems to be back, finally. I'm not sure when they began new WU generation but the server was simply gone for the longest time.
57) Message boards : GPUs : GPU BOINC Bang for my Buck (Message 37269)
Posted 23 Mar 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
CUDA is definitely better suited to projects like PrimeGrid and SETI.

Even though MilkyWay and Collatz's apps are both fairly basic derivations, I've been told and have learned through experience that ATi cards are simply better at running them. It's almost a 75% time increase between an HD 5850 and my GTX 460. Collatz's app takes about an hour for me but the mini app runs in 7 minutes. Again, faster on ATi.

To OP:

Both major manufacturers are quite different. As people have said, both types of card have their strengths and weaknesses. Often, one will excel where the other does not; for instance, NViDIA's CUDA is a very open development platform, whereas ATi's CAL/Brook is more difficult to code for and troubleshoot; ATi cards, though, often have higher shader clocks and more stream processors, which can significantly speed up some applications.

Memory definitely matters - not so much to BOINC and its productivity, but to your computer while you use it. Faster GPU = faster computer and less strain on the CPU, which has to feed and monitor it. Many GPUs nowadays have higher memory bandwidths and usually more than 512MB of RAM, unless you're looking at a budget card. If that's the case, then don't even bother. No point in dropping 80-100 dollars on a lower-end GPU that frankly you may not consider to be "worth it" after a while of crunching.
58) Message boards : Projects : Any projects for mac w/ ATI? (Message 36388)
Posted 10 Jan 2011 by Profile NullCoding*
Post:
PrimeGrid looks to be the project which will soonest integrate ATi OpenCL support for Macs given they are making huge strides as far as porting more of their sub-projects to GPU right now.

They're all CUDA right now, which will run on Mac (if you have a laptop, that is).

As far as I know, ATi apps are under development to run on OS X for PrimeGrid and MilkyWay. MW already has ATi apps for Windows/Linux, so I suppose the next step is modifying bits of code to run under OS X.

With GPU computing so much in the spotlight, the real challenge is finding developers. The one who made the PrimeGrid ATi application for Windows actually did not own an ATi card and therefore couldn't even test it (for example).

Someone did mention how difficult it is to port things to CAL/Brook or even OpenCL as opposed to CUDA...I agree. We've developed another fully functional CUDA app over at PrimeGrid in under a week...it's not yet on BOINC, but it will be, and for some reason I guarantee no ATi app could come about that fast.

You could use a VM...but that kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it. ;)

I'm a Mac guy too, so believe me I'd love to see that, or perhaps a Mac Pro with a GTX 580 SLI setup. But if you think ATi is hard to communicate with, imagine suggesting that to Apple...


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