Posts by Jim1348

81) Message boards : Projects : Coronavirus projects? (Message 98525)
Posted 15 May 2020 by Jim1348
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Rosetta Covid 700 Mb

The Rosetta work units can take a lot more when they are under development; up to around 3 GB.
I currently have one running under Win7 64-bit at 2.5 GB.
And about half of the ones running on my Ubuntu machines (around 70 cores) are between 1 and 2 GB.

In a few days, they will settle down to less than 500 MB. But memory problems tend to surprise new users (and even some old ones) on Rosetta.
82) Message boards : Projects : Coronavirus projects? (Message 98523)
Posted 15 May 2020 by Jim1348
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Folding@Home Covid - maybe someone else can advise

Running the Folding CPU client on my Ryzen 3950X (all 32 cores, Ubuntu 18.04.4), the FahCore_a7 is using 1.6% of 16 GB memory, or 256 MB.

Running the GPU client on an RTX 2060 (Ubuntu 18.04.4), the FahCore_22 is using 1.1% of 32 GB memory, or 352 MB.

In all my years on Folding, no one has ever complained about high memory usage.
83) Message boards : Projects : News on Project Outages (Message 98359)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Jim1348
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Universe is down, both uploads and website.
84) Message boards : Projects : Coronavirus projects? (Message 97339)
Posted 7 Apr 2020 by Jim1348
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The FAQ, useful though it may be, is a bit obscure. You could just link to the sticky and be done with it, if you want to.

Or you could just ignore them without guilt. If they can't find it, they probably won't understand it anyway.
Your time is valuable too.
85) Message boards : Projects : Coronavirus projects? (Message 97335)
Posted 7 Apr 2020 by Jim1348
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BOINC should just put up a sticky (in large, black letters):
Why All Projects Do Not Use GPUs

It would save a lot of repetition.
86) Message boards : Projects : Coronavirus projects? (Message 97302)
Posted 5 Apr 2020 by Jim1348
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Correct, and Juan Hindo from WCG has said that they hope to get the GPU version of AutoDock (OpenCL) sometime in the future but there is no ETA.

If you remember, the HCC (Help Conquer Cancer) project, a predecessor to MCM, had a GPU app.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewNewsArticle.do?articleId=210&post=-21035002_210&language=en_US
87) Message boards : News : Rosetta@home studies coronavirus (Message 97047)
Posted 25 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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If you have a recent Nvidia card, you can run GPUGrid.
They will be getting some Covid-19 work units at some point.

But check the requirements.
http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=5002
88) Message boards : Projects : Folding@Home on BOINC (Message 96966)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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Another advantage is that it would earn BOINC credits.
I never look at credits myself (more or less), but it seems to be a drawback for some people who would otherwise migrate a GPU over to Folding.

And I am sure Jacob Klein would be delighted to help (he did Zero Resource Share anyway).
http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=5078&nowrap=true#53905
89) Message boards : Projects : Folding@Home on BOINC (Message 96964)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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Their new locations are in the East (well, St. Louis east). They are innocent of such things.
Or to be more precise, they have their own rivalries.

It could be a new beginning.
90) Message boards : Projects : Folding@Home on BOINC (Message 96962)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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Yes. One tweak is that they would need to make the solution specific to Folding, and not the other BOINC projects you are attached to.

For example, Zero Resource share might still be used in that case, in which case any other project coming back to life would not affect it. And the "surplus tasks" problem (very annoying) would also not be present.

Even "<fetch_minimal_work>0|1</fetch_minimal_work>" would need to be changed, since I think that is for cc_config.xml, and affects all projects.

I don't know which of these is most feasible; you are the expert. But my long (for what it is worth) experience with Folding suggests that yes, their servers would need to be changed. They seem to be very particular. But why not? If they are installing a bunch of new servers anyway, why not just do BOINC?

And remember, they have a bunch of different locations now. I get a lot of work from Temple University rather than Stanford, which seems to have receded if not disappeared. They could upgrade one at a time I would think.
91) Message boards : Projects : Folding@Home on BOINC (Message 96960)
Posted 21 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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The main problem was always that Folding needed the lowest possible latency. So they developed their own client to allow downloading a new work unit just as the old one was ending (at 99%).
However, BOINC more or less has that capability now too, with the addition of "zero resource share". Then, you download a new work unit when you run out of the old ones.

With a little tweaking, it should work. And I think BOINC is better developed overall in how it handles server outages, etc., though there is still room for improvement.
For example, at Rosetta at the moment stalled downloads prevent others from downloading too, until the que is cleared and all the old work finishes.
92) Message boards : Projects : Rosetta@home is temporary down (Message 96881)
Posted 17 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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They've been running low on tasks, for several weeks now.

That is different than the stuck downloads. Or the same thing. We don't know.
93) Message boards : Projects : Projects coping with Corona (Message 96807)
Posted 16 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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Be interesting to know if other projects are putting plans in place for this or have already done so. I guess many will already have many staff capable of working from home?

TN-Grid is facing the problem big time. They are on the edge of the quarantine zone in Italy.
http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/forum_thread.php?id=264
94) Message boards : Projects : Rosetta@home is temporary down (Message 96759)
Posted 14 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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They are notoriously tight-lipped. That is probably because they really don't know what is going on with the crunchers.
I expect that they just throw the stuff out, and if enough of it gets returned, they think they are OK.

I think they need to be a little more pro-active, or they could come up short someday.
95) Message boards : Projects : Can we Cure Corona (Message 96638)
Posted 10 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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How silly can people get!

Fortunately, this is a fairly mild virus. When the big one hits, we will see how silly it can get.
96) Message boards : Projects : Low on Nvidia tasks (Message 96612)
Posted 10 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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GPUGrid is a great project for Nvidia. In fact, it is CUDA only.
It is worthwhile work, and they (for once) have plenty of work units.
The new app is working well on both Linux and Windows, if you have a recent card and drivers.
97) Message boards : Projects : Seti@Home in hibernation (Message 96300)
Posted 3 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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Great news. They have wasted enough electrical energy on an impossible goal, as I have posted in their forum a few times.
But they have good signal processing capability, if some astronomers can figure out how to make use of it.
98) Message boards : Questions and problems : Stalled downloads (Message 96242)
Posted 1 Mar 2020 by Jim1348
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1) if you see it happening, set <http_debug> in Event Log options, and retry the transfer - find out what's happening behind that 'transient HTTP error'.
2) make a careful and exact note of the file name in question. Cancel the download, and make sure it disappears from the transfers tab. Restart the client, and if the 'stalled download' message reappears, have a very careful 'read only' (no edits) peek inside client_state.xml - same folder. Find the reference (if any) to the file you cancelled, and post the whole of the 
<file>
...
</file>
section it's enclosed in.


Well I tried it too without much success. Here is the BOINC log when it is stalled:
189 Rosetta@home 3/1/2020 12:03:45 PM Started download of PKY1232uM_9mer_gly_0918_1056_0001_5_SSC_matched_9_FD_C_GP_B_0001_notail.zip
190 3/1/2020 12:08:53 PM Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
191 Rosetta@home 3/1/2020 12:08:53 PM Temporarily failed download of PKY1232uM_9mer_gly_0918_1056_0001_5_SSC_matched_9_FD_C_GP_B_0001_notail.zip: transient HTTP error
192 Rosetta@home 3/1/2020 12:08:53 PM Backing off 04:25:30 on download of PKY1232uM_9mer_gly_0918_1056_0001_5_SSC_matched_9_FD_C_GP_B_0001_notail.zip
193 3/1/2020 12:08:55 PM Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

I then cancelled the download (in the Transfers tab of BOINCTasks) and rebooted the Ubuntu 18.04.4 machine (BOINC 7.16.3).
But the file by that name did not show up in the "client_state.xml".

I think we are stuck, so to speak.
99) Message boards : Projects : Why is tn-grid not present at https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php ? (Message 95920)
Posted 18 Feb 2020 by Jim1348
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They have discussed that a number of times. At present, they don't want to be listed.
http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/forum_thread.php?id=247#1554
100) Message boards : Projects : Astro Pulse (Message 95512)
Posted 24 Jan 2020 by Jim1348
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Is Astropulse used for the FRB's? I would find SETI more interesting in that case.


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