Posts by Eric

1) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Bug in 5.10.30--"Use At Most" CPU Option missing (Message 14797) Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Eric Post: Eric, if clearing the local setting AND updating the website profile (make a change and save and hit the Update button in the BOINCmgr Projects tab after selecting CPDN) does not work, edit into global_prefs_override.xml the next line: <cpu_usage_limit>60.0</cpu_usage_limit> Alternate try setting <max_cpus>2</max_cpus> to 1 while changing the above line to 100.0 . That will run 1 core and overall 50%. Maybe that allows enough to get your office apps working. There is a 'advanced' menu option to "Read Local Prefs File", to effectuate these manual changes without stopping/starting BOINC. Never experienced these delays with either MSOffice or File Explorer on any of the machines. OpenOfficeCalc sometimes shows extreme loading delays. For Vista its said that the file handling will be substantially improved with SP1. Sourly needed. Wow. Now this is bizarre. I looked at the machine today and magically the option is there! WTF?! I had noticed this morning that the machine had reported its first WU...I wonder if "phoning home" somehow solved it. But, as others have stated, the problem is reproduceable on a machine that has never had Boinc installed. This problem really should be researched...it's not hard to reproduce...and I would think that the dev team would have a few pcs around for testing...some Ghost images would make this a very quick and repeatable test. -Eric
2) Message boards : The Lounge : How many Ps3 are signed up for Boinc? (Message 14787) Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Eric Post: Your BIG problem will be finding a project that has an app for the Ps3. If you're thinking about Folding@Home, then they will probably have LOTS of info on setting it up. Hmmm...I thought that once BOINC was installed on ANY given architecture, ALL Boinc PROJECTS were, by default, supported. No? If not, then what is the point of Boinc being a "platform"? I know each project has it's own binary executable...but I thought there was some handshaking going on between Boinc and the Project from a development point of view. -Eric
3) Message boards : The Lounge : How many Ps3 are signed up for Boinc? (Message 14778) Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Eric Post: I just got a PS3...how do I install/run/configure Boinc? I see there is an option for Folding@home but that is a different DC project (I believe). You need to install Linux on it. PS3Grid has instructions about it. They recently added another option to run it from a USB stick... Very cool! But 2 main problems for me (even though I am very technical): 1)No wifi support yet...my PS3 is nowhere near a wired connection 2)The install instructions are not very complete. Things like "shut down linux" are meaningless to me because I am doing this on a PS3 with the Sony game controller...not a keyboard or mouse! There are other examples where if the creators of this nifty project would take a few hours and put explicit, step-by-step instructions with screenshots, I would sign up in a jiffy...and so would thousands of other PS3 owners. But again, I'm not about to risk nuking my machine because of a bare-boned-installation instructions resulting in a failed install or incorrect boot attempt or something like that. :)
4) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Bug in 5.10.30--"Use At Most" CPU Option missing (Message 14772) Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Eric Post: ? No panic. Have you tried applying the 'Clear' button in local prefs? updating the website profile might create the entry in the global_prefs.xml and else it can be manually edited into the global_prefs_override.xml until the bug is fixed. WCG has a default of 60% on the website profile, which if not present in the local prefs overrides the 'missing' setting. The 60% translates to 3 seconds at 100% CPU idle cycle use and 0% for 2 seconds. For 6.x BOINC seems to do it at 1/10 of a second precision meaning 0.6 second at 100% and 0.4 seconds pause. The BOINC throttle is in its present incarnation a hmmmm and for some projects / platforms been in fact a source of task crashes. On laptops the 60% can lead to the fan going off and on due temp fluctuations, thus 50% is recommended. (are there any other projects that have a 'throttled' default setting?) I can try the Clear button tomorrow...but I doubt that will fix it. No, the only project I run is Rosetta@Home...I have a few computers running all on XP 32 bit and 1 Mac client. The main reason I throttle (only some computers I have are throttled, some run at 100% 24x7) is because of the bug (that's been around for like 2 years now) that running at 100% fails to allow DDE to run properly...for example, running at 100% and then trying to double-click on a Word or Excel file...it takes 40-90 seconds for the file to open. During that time, the system seems frozen. Ditto if I try pressing the Windows button and E to open Windows Explorer. I have to set the throttle at 70% which allows the double-click to open the document in under 8 seconds. If (at 100% cpu utilization) I open Word, Word opens immediately...then I do File>Open and the document opens normally. So it's just double-clicking files which launch the application. A pain. Not to hijack my own thread but I've never seen an official "we'll fix that DDE bug" statement from the Boinc dev team. The bug did not always exist...I forget what version it reared it's head but again, sometime in 2006 I believe. Thanks. -Eric
5) Message boards : The Lounge : How many Ps3 are signed up for Boinc? (Message 14771) Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Eric Post: I just got a PS3...how do I install/run/configure Boinc? I see there is an option for Folding@home but that is a different DC project (I believe). Also, what is the likelihood that I will burn out the machine leaving it on 24x7 running Boinc? I'm happy to have it participate, but I'm not willing to blow it up in 2 months. :) -Eric
6) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Windows Defender is stopping BOINC at startup (Message 14770) Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Eric Post: I spent way too much time with this problem. I have two older XP machines and two new Core 2 Duo Vista machines. I tried 5.10.20 installed as Service on a Vista machine. I only ever saw one project in Task manager. When I went back to 5.8.16, installed as Single user, I saw two projects. So, for me it is simple: 5.8.16 on all four of my computers, and, on to something else. >>RSM 1)So Mitrichr: are you stating that 5.8.16 DOES work on Vista machines that have problems with 5.10.20? I (actually a friend...you couldn't pay me to install Vista) have the same Windows Defender problem as on this thread (Vista 32bit) but I believe it is with version 5.10.20 2)So it's now been about 3 months since the last post...someone mentioned a formal fix in 6.0...when will 6.0 be released? I know Vista is a horrible OS but it's been quite a long time to not fix this problem...an update would be nice. Thanks. -Eric
7) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Bug in 5.10.30--"Use At Most" CPU Option missing (Message 14767) Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Eric Post: Although it is a short read, you can read about this bug (and how we confirmed it a bug and what we've tried for a workaround) here: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=3872 In summary: I downloaded and installed Boinc 5.10.30 last Friday on a Windows XP Pro machine that never had Boinc...after installing it, the "Use at most ____ % CPU Time" option is missing. Totally bizarre. It should be located at Advanced>Preferences, click on the Processor Usage tab, and at the bottom where there SHOULD BE 3 choices in the Other Options area, "Use at most ____ % of CPU Time" is not present. So, I downloaded and installed the same version last night onto my home machine (which has been running boinc 5.10.20 for months) upgraded it to .30, and the option is there as it should be. This problem has been confirmed by others...if installing on a clean machine, the problem exists. If upgrading 5.10.20, the problem is NOT present. Again, please see the hyperlink above for a very short read. As more and more people download Boinc 5.10.30 and discover no way to throttle Boinc, they will likely quit the project(s). -Eric

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