Posts by SekeRob2

1) Message boards : BOINC client : Suggestion - allow for updating the deadlines (Message 79833)
Posted 29 Jul 2017 by SekeRob2
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Change the deadline on the server side is to prevent an additional copy going out, whilst in the know your client is working on the task in high priority. WCG does the same thing, which is of particular interest to the project that trickles intermediate results... they extend the deadline, whenever there is a planned/unplanned longer outage. At the same time, their scheduler sets a message ready for unstarted tasks to be aborted. When that message goes across to the client, the client ignores it when the task is already running. Now the question, what seems like a not very useful communication... changing the deadline on the client side. Not sure how the client responds... rotates away to another task under deadline duress?
2) Message boards : Documentation : where get older client ? (Message 76255)
Posted 5 Mar 2017 by SekeRob2
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As old as you want it to be at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D, but does not mean the project(s) with whom you want to communicate will accept the version you manage to get working. E.g. the packs come with ca-bundle.crt certificates... the ones in the kit could long have expired. Also, some projects set minimum client versions, to include OS, so be aware, and then there are many science apps that wont even run on W95, often XP being the minimum.
3) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Feature request: run till currently running tasks complete (Message 73444)
Posted 19 Oct 2016 by SekeRob2
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If remembering correctly, NNT results in all completed tasks being reported immediately i.e. when powering down for the break, all that is complete is reported.

It of course would be gentlemanly if one would [manually] abort all uncompleted tasks and hit update just before switching off, so the project can sooner redistribute.
4) Message boards : BOINC client : Haveing trouble getting Client running with Ubunto 16.04 (Message 72601)
Posted 23 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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Theoretically, this does the trick for me (will ask for your password so it can run at elevated permissions)

sudo service boinc-client start

Gianfranco Costamagna always has the latest build, now 7.6.32 dbfg on his ppa. Go (debian package maintainer) https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco, click on Boinc development release. The ppa shown there is the one to add to your software repositories. This is a meta package, which sets it all and launches the core client/daemon on boot, before you sign in. Been using his since years and years, prompt to fix package issues.

Don't know why there has not been an official build for Linux since September 2014 on the official Berkeley download page, but 7.4.22 looks pretty ancient, Win/OS-X are on 7.6.22 recommended.
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : Tranfers Tab (Message 72558)
Posted 20 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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None of the transfers are showing up in the transfers tab at any time, but the completed files are transferring.

You can always add a log flag to the cc_config.xml to get output to the event log, when started-finished, if there was any output.
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : "Private messages: Inbox" ยท Write not on forum Message Board front page (Message 72537)
Posted 18 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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Don't know if this was with design, but it would be nice if this right top feedback on the PM system could also be shown on the forum front page... the place I go to see if there are new posts in any section of interest, to me. (WCG's Recent Threads https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/listrecentthreads listing would be a great feature here, to also not get misdirected when a spam/troll post gets hidden but changes the time stamp on the front message board page to indicate there's a new post.)
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : Which BOINC questions do you have that you can not get answered? (Message 72527)
Posted 17 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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The can print (contained in the exit code status field of the WCG API) says '225', nothing more, nothing less. The result log claims "process exited with code 225 (0xe1, -31)".
8) Message boards : Questions and problems : Which BOINC questions do you have that you can not get answered? (Message 72507)
Posted 17 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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So happened to stumble on a 225 as exit code (WCG API extract from the result listing), but the log claiming the "Output file xyz for task abc absent". Not in my DB went to look and stumbled on http://boinc.berkeley.edu/error_numbers.h. No idea how current, but it's far more extensive than what I had before.
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : Oscillating CPU on Ubuntu 16.04 (Message 72445)
Posted 13 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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You can't have nice stick, because the science apps are [by design] set to that lowest level, to yield to all and every non-BOINC process. Of course you can cron this every time a new task loads, but some project will reload at every completed step... a control process and a worker, which is the part for some projects that reloads many times, at each sub-job such as with Clean Energy.

My Ubuntu actually has an app icon on the top bar where I can flip the ondemand / max / lower frequency quickly... no bashing in a shell at all.
10) Message boards : Questions and problems : "Can't create HTTP response output file" with World Community Grid (Message 72441)
Posted 12 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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Same user, same OP runs in a thread on the WCG forums, where there he wrote "I cannot start a new task:"
11) Message boards : Questions and problems : Oscillating CPU on Ubuntu 16.04 (Message 72439)
Posted 12 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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Ahum, the global_pref.xml is populated from the project website device location profiles, so a local edit runs the risk of being overwritten soon as you change something at any of your projects, i.e best visit any of your project preference pages and change the value there, then run an client update project to transfer to the new pref to the client.
12) Message boards : BOINC client : Avoid Peak Electrical Hours (Message 72361)
Posted 10 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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Hey folks,

My electric company charges a HUGE amount but only between the hours of 3pm-6pm. I know about the computing preferences and you can set times per day to run, but how about running all times EXCEPT between 3pm-6pm.

I did a quick search and didn't find anything on here or on google. Does anyone know if this is possible through the BOINC client?

It's fairly simple. You set a run time in the general selection "Compute only between" from 6pm to 3pm i.e from 18:00 to 15:00 [yes you can], and if the peak does not exist in the weekend, set an override for those days.
13) Message boards : Questions and problems : Oscillating CPU on Ubuntu 16.04 (Message 72250)
Posted 5 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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The 'oscillating' is the result of BOINC by default running only part time, to keep operating temps down for laptops, that don't have adequate cooling to run full out. Every 10 seconds, suggests you've set the CPU time percent to 90% (run 9 seconds, pause 1 second). Set it to 100% and the pause/run alternation is gone [Computing preference: Use at most 100% of CPU time].
14) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Exclusive applications settings not working under Win10pro ? (Message 72225)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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hmmmm, on my Ubuntu box, running this platform since about 10.04 and now on 16.04LTS, run BOINC full out, run always, and have set e.g. apt-get as an exclusive app as it can cause certain projects apps to crash due to competiontion of network resources. Sure as heck, BOINC pauses with the appropriate message that an exclusive app is running when I'm updating/patching the OS. (Always thought there was a difference with what's in the Global_prefs files versus what's in cc_config.xml/app_config.xml)

Important is that the application mask is -exact-, case sensitive, at least I'm masking sure it's exact.

Edit: Just tested on W10, first adding the exclusive app through the BOINCmgr interface, cpu-z to be exact, verified Run based on prefs was selected and...

3817 9/4/2016 9:19:56 PM Re-reading cc_config.xml
3820 9/4/2016 9:19:56 PM Config: don't compute while cpuz.exe is running
3828 9/4/2016 9:20:00 PM Suspending computation - an exclusive app is running

On run always, BOINC resumed, so that's most weird, but working it does.
15) Message boards : Questions and problems : Automatic Temperature regulation (Message 72214)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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Here's what you get limiting cores in a 4770K 8-threaded CPU, [which is hard set in the control panel at 2.8Ghz as 3.4 would make it run to hot in our ambient temps], noting the CPU scales by itself, observed with CoreTemp and Open Hardware Monitor, with each increment allowed a minute to settle:

1 - 6 to 6.8 watts - 41 to 42C - 0.8Ghz
2 - 7 to 8 watts - 41 to 42C - 0.8Ghz
3 - 8 to 10 watts - 43 to 44C - 0.8 to 1.0Ghz
4 - 9 to 11 watts - 45 to 48C - 0.8 to 1.2Ghz
5 - 33.3 to 34.9 watts - 55 to 57C - 2.8Ghz
6 - 35.3 to 36.0 watts - 59 to 63C - 2.8Ghz
7 - 38.2 to 38.5 watts - 67 to 70C - 2.8Ghz
8 - 39.1 to 40.0 watts - 71 to 73C - 2.8Ghz

Fan is audibly speeding up as cores are being added to crunch. Obviously, the 4 cores and less results in a per-core production drop of 233% to 350%, system overall 2 or 8 cores a drop of 1400% in throughput.
16) Message boards : Questions and problems : Alas, not suspending (Message 72210)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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Don't know, but the secret switch is default set to run based on preference, as well as to not run while in use, and run 50 or 60% of CPU time (unless those 'out-of-the box' has changed). This to ensure the newly initiated does not get put off too quick with BOINC, particularly on laptops that heat quickly.
17) Message boards : Questions and problems : Automatic Temperature regulation (Message 72208)
Posted 4 Sep 2016 by SekeRob2
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The problem of BOINC is, it runs at 1 second control intervals as are the science applications compiled to call and listen at that pace. When the client in development was changed to 1/10th of a second, pretty much all those science apps were not following in step **, so the code was reversed [cause a recompile requirement of all the projects was a bridge too far it seems], so here we are years later and still no proper temperature control, plus all sciences still in step pausing/running, instead of doing it asynchronous... heat all, cool all, heat all and so on.

** Did have an okay experience when testing, the load graph in task manager nice and even, and it would have worked on all platforms.
18) Message boards : BOINC client : Boinc-client - Android (Message 71874)
Posted 25 Aug 2016 by SekeRob2
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For devices with an Android below 5.0 you can use the alternate NativeBOINC (Not maintained since longer). It got many features the desktop client has to include naming the device and the possibility to put the data on an SD, but, some things were achieved with hacks, and that you wont see Berkeley supporting. This client can also be used to remote control BOINC on desktops. (Actually I use free and secure TeamViewer for this.)
19) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC set to not allow new tasks for a project doesn't obey (Message 71849)
Posted 24 Aug 2016 by SekeRob2
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Bugs like these would have long come to light. WCG does have Lost result resending, but for an extremely limited time before 'lost' is considered 'no time to pense over, sent to other client and free up slots'. The give away would have been the odd/uneven deadline.... not like 10.00 days, but 7.86 or whatever.
20) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC set to not allow new tasks for a project doesn't obey (Message 71816)
Posted 23 Aug 2016 by SekeRob2
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Is this another case of only active tasks showing (because of, maybe accidentally, hitting the Show Active Tasks selection?


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