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Questions and problems :
Windows 8 observation.
(Message 54731)
Posted 4 Jul 2014 by Alexander Post: A disk died in one of my machines, (quad core), so I installed a new one, (SSD), and loaded the machine with Windows 8, (most of my machines run XP). Twice now, when returning to the machine in the morning, the manager task is frozen, nothing changing at all. Task manager shows four science apps running fine. I kill and restart the manager everything looks normal again. The portfolio on that machine is SIMAP, Einstein, Rosetta and POGS, but I doubt that is relevant. Machine runs 24/7. Since I have rebuild most of my pc's to SSD's I have some experience with that. Three systems had similar problems, not only with BOINC. One machine had boot problems, another machine crashed once in 2 weeks, a third one randomly without any visible pattern. In all cases a firmware upgrade solved this problem. It was on my Samsung Evo, on a OCZ and also on the third one (cannot remember which brand). I would start looking for firmware updates. Alexander |
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BOINC Manager :
Sceduling system
(Message 54104)
Posted 13 May 2014 by Alexander Post: First of all - thank you for taking so much time, it's realy appreciated! With help of your explanations I copied one work fetch cycle into an editor and removed the lines pointing to project that are not part of the game right now. Then I removed the lines pointing to gpu's - not part of the game. What's left over: 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | | [work_fetch] ------- start work fetch state ------- 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | | [work_fetch] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 864.00 sec 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | | [work_fetch] --- project states --- 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | WUProp@Home | [work_fetch] REC 0.007 prio -0.002937 can't req work: non CPU intensive 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | NRG | [work_fetch] REC 265.556 prio -0.245005 can req work 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | boincsimap | [work_fetch] REC 980.671 prio -0.895267 can req work 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | pogs | [work_fetch] REC 1044.700 prio -0.895423 can req work 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] REC 2268.893 prio -1.928137 can req work 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | | [work_fetch] --- state for CPU --- 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | | [work_fetch] shortfall 877.89 nidle 0.00 saturated 8993.55 busy 0.00 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | NRG | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.242 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | boincsimap | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.242 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | pogs | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.258 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.258 13.05.2014 20:33:01 | | [work_fetch] ------- end work fetch state ------- What I see is that Asteroids is not the project with the highest priority also no wu was crunched for a couple of days. Only pogs, simap and nrg are loaded. How does it work to get higher priority? Just for clarification: saturated is in relationship with the local settings of work buffer and additional work buffer? I've set both to 0.01 days. One question is left over: whatfor stands REC ? Seems to be in relation with expected wu run time. Alexander |
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BOINC Manager :
Sceduling system
(Message 54089)
Posted 12 May 2014 by Alexander Post: THX for the answer, tag is insertet to cc_config.xml and works. The thing is: Asteroid project preferences are set to run cpu-apps only. The project has cpu and nVidia apps. This setting works on the following pc's: https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc//show_host_detail.php?hostid=88982 https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc//show_host_detail.php?hostid=89536 https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc//show_host_detail.php?hostid=88967 it does not work here: https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc//show_host_detail.php?hostid=88967 The difference is, this system has all three types of gpu's Messages show: 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.000 (no apps) 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | | [work_fetch] ------- end work fetch state ------- 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | | [work_fetch] No project chosen for work fetch 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.000 (no apps) 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | | [work_fetch] --- state for Intel GPU --- 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | | [work_fetch] shortfall 864.00 nidle 1.00 saturated 0.00 busy 0.00 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.000 (blocked by prefs) 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | | [work_fetch] --- state for AMD/ATI GPU --- 12.05.2014 20:51:51 | | [work_fetch] shortfall 864.00 nidle 1.00 saturated 0.00 busy 0.00 12.05.2014 20:52:52 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] fetch share 0.258 12.05.2014 20:52:52 | | [work_fetch] --- state for NVIDIA GPU --- 12.05.2014 20:52:52 | | [work_fetch] shortfall 864.00 nidle 1.00 saturated 0.00 busy 0.00 12.05.2014 20:57:07 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] REC 2428.924 prio -1.603775 can req work 12.05.2014 20:57:07 | | [work_fetch] --- state for CPU --- 12.05.2014 20:57:07 | | [work_fetch] shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00 saturated 984.67 busy 0.00 12.05.2014 21:10:00 | Asteroids@home | [work_fetch] REC 2427.420 prio -2.031742 can req work 12.05.2014 21:10:00 | | [work_fetch] --- state for CPU --- 12.05.2014 21:10:00 | | [work_fetch] shortfall 0.00 nidle 0.00 saturated 1325.20 busy 0.00 Resource share is set to equal values on all 4 running projects. I have no experiance in interpreting these messages, but why is something saturated whatfor no apps exist? BM 7.3.11 win7x64 i7-3770, GTX650ti, HD7870(Tahiti) Alexander |
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BOINC Manager :
Sceduling system
(Message 54045)
Posted 10 May 2014 by Alexander Post: Hi, not long ago I joined Asteroids@home. After running several wu's on different systems and waited for validation I decided to run this app on three systems. Two systems have included this app into the regular sceduling, the third does not load these apps. When I da a manual update, the message says 10.05.2014 15:44:51 | Asteroids@home | Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: buffer full; NVIDIA GPU: project preferences; AMD/ATI GPU: no applications; Intel GPU: no applications) I see this message for the third day now. When I put the other two projects I run on this pc on hold, I get Asteroid wu's. Resource share for the three projects is equal. This leads to my question: is it possible to visualize the sceduling system? Alexander |
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GPUs :
Misassignement of open-cl tasks to gpu's
(Message 53712)
Posted 18 Apr 2014 by Alexander Post: Hi Jord, thank you for your help, let's see what we can make with this information. Alexander |
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GPUs :
Misassignement of open-cl tasks to gpu's
(Message 53709)
Posted 18 Apr 2014 by Alexander Post: First off, the numbering. This is correct. In theory, you will be able to insert 64 Nvidia GPUs, 64 AMD GPUs and 64 Intel GPUs into your computer and have them all have a reasonably unique number. Where you may see just GPU 0, GPU 1, GPU 2 etc. you're not seeing what it says in front of that: THX Jord for the advise. I upgraded BM and ran 2 wu's, result in long form in the Einstein forum. The short one is: 2014-04-18 19:34:45.1114 (4808) [normal]: Start of BOINC application 'projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/einstein_S6CasA_1.08_windows_x86_64__GWopencl-nvidia-Beta.exe'. Activated exception handling... command line: projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/einstein_S6CasA_1.08_windows_x86_64__GWopencl-nvidia-Beta.exe --skyRegion=(6.1237713,1.0264572) --refTime=960541454.5 --Freq=993.4000000000001 --FreqBand=0.05 --dFreq=5.3519e-07 --f1dot=-2.71657332393e-09 --f1dotBand=7.76163806836e-11 --df1dot=8.2281e-12 --gammaRefine=90 --f2dot=9.664e-19 --f2dotBand=2.21688997516e-17 --df2dot=1.9328e-18 --gamma2Refine=60 --computeLV --LVuseAllTerms=0 --LVrho=2.7564e+17 --LVlX=0.000168379,0.000168379 --nCand1=3000 --SortToplist=3 --recalcToplistStats=1 -o ../../projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/h1_0993.20_S6Directed__S6CasAf40a_993.4Hz_1319_0_0 --printCand1 --semiCohToplist --ephemE=../../projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/earth_09_11 --ephemS=../../projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/sun_09_11 --segmentList=../../projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/seglist-CasAf40.dat --Dterms=8 --DataFiles1=..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.20_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.20_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.25_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.25_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.30_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.30_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.35_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.35_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.40_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.40_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.45_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.45_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.50_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.50_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.55_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.55_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.60_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.60_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\h1_0993.65_S6Directed;..\..\projects\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\l1_0993.65_S6Directed --device 0 2014-04-18 19:34:45.3766 (4808) [debug]: Flags: LAL_NDEBUG, OPTIMIZE, HS_OPTIMIZATION, X64, SSE, SSE2, GNUC X86 GNUX86 2014-04-18 19:34:45.3766 (4808) [debug]: Set up communication with graphics process. Code-version: %% LAL: 6.10.0.1 (CLEAN 14312d5a9fafa5b46fc6ccc57a08bdfab14361f1) %% LALApps: 6.12.0.1 (CLEAN 14312d5a9fafa5b46fc6ccc57a08bdfab14361f1) 2014-04-18 19:34:45.3922 (4808) [normal]: Using OpenCL platform provided by: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 2014-04-18 19:34:45.3922 (4808) [normal]: Using OpenCL device "Spectre" by: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Is it OK for you to continue @ Einstein ? http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=10707 Alexander |
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GPUs :
Misassignement of open-cl tasks to gpu's
(Message 53691)
Posted 17 Apr 2014 by Alexander Post: Hi, I have a problem with this host: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10283382 The problem came up when Einstein released open-cl tasks for ati and for nvidia. When two tasks are running, one ati and one nvidia, both tasks are running on the ati card. Full story here: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=10707 Reading the top 20 lines of the messages I see that both gpu's are numbered as 0. I thought that this might be the source of the problem, but Jim posts that this is correct, as far as he knows. If someone has an idea what could be wrong be shure your advice is appreciated. Alexander |
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BOINC Manager :
Using BM while travelling in train
(Message 53524)
Posted 5 Apr 2014 by Alexander Post: THX for the quick answer. I can increase the work buffer, if I remember to do that the day before :)) |
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BOINC Manager :
Using BM while travelling in train
(Message 53511)
Posted 4 Apr 2014 by Alexander Post: Hi, I often use trains, sitting there 3 to 4 hrs using my laptop. Unfortunately the file transfer seems to be blocked there, maybe by using unusual ports. This results in unnecessary idle time. Is there a way to use different ports/protocols for the file transfer, which are not blocked by bublic WIFI? Alexander |
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GPUs :
ATI HD5970 GPU problem
(Message 49764)
Posted 1 Jul 2013 by Alexander Post: Another thing seems to be odd. This is his system: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6814654 At the beginning of the thread Marc has posted to have 4GB RAM, one GPU and a 64 bit OS. The Details point to a 32bit OS with one 1GB GPU (3071.05 MB) Alex |
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GPUs :
Intel GPUs
(Message 49745)
Posted 28 Jun 2013 by Alexander Post: Hi Alexander, Hi Charlie, here is the result: Test build 1 28.06.2013 16:09:33 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 2048MB, 2008MB available, 3840 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:09:33 | | CAL: ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5800/5900 series (Cypress/Hemlock) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 3584 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:09:33 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 2048MB, 2008MB available, 3840 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:09:33 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5800/5900 series (Cypress/Hemlock) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 1024MB, 991MB available, 3584 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:09:33 | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics 2500 (driver version 9.18.10.3165, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1624MB, 1624MB available, 17 GFLOPS peak) Test build 2 28.06.2013 16:12:15 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 2048MB, 2008MB available, 3840 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:12:15 | | CAL: ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5800/5900 series (Cypress/Hemlock) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 3584 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:12:15 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 2048MB, 2008MB available, 3840 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:12:15 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5800/5900 series (Cypress/Hemlock) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 1024MB, 991MB available, 3584 GFLOPS peak) 28.06.2013 16:12:15 | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics 2500 (driver version 9.18.10.3165, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1624MB, 1624MB available, 17 GFLOPS peak) I hope this is the result you wanted to see. Both versions work. Thank you for the quick and accurate work! Cheers Alexander |
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GPUs :
Intel GPUs
(Message 49733)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Alexander Post:
Correct, it's this machine http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6571 (atm not showing the amd-gpu's because they are installed in different pc's) but as posted earlier not before friday evening. Cheers Alexander |
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GPUs :
Intel GPUs
(Message 49730)
Posted 26 Jun 2013 by Alexander Post: I have installed the graphic (open CL) drivers from here: ad 1: The link given gives the choice to selct different hardware, including cpu. Selecting the cpu does not help, the open cl driver is included in the graphic package. This is what I wanted to say. Product family is graphics, product line is desktop graphics drivers, product name is up to the hardware one has. ad 2: BM 7.1.17 ad 3: In most cases I have access to this system only saturday / sunday and sometimes over night. Monday evening, after some discussions and 2 beers later, I got the system until coming sunday, promising to install the gpu's in another system until friday. This enabled to 'try it right now'. ad 4: I did not pay attention to that, all was running fine. If it helps you I can arrange to reset the settings over the weekend. I need to reinstall the GPU's anyway, so its only a tick more work to do. pls check your PM for additional info. Cheers, Alex |
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GPUs :
Intel GPUs
(Message 49719)
Posted 25 Jun 2013 by Alexander Post: I have installed the graphic (open CL) drivers from here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Default.aspx?ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Desktop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=3rd+Generation+Intel%C2%AE+Core%E2%84%A2+Processors+with+Intel%C2%AE+HD+Graphics+4000%2f2500&ZeroResult=True&lang=eng&ProdId=3498 Select graphic first. The result is: 25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 2048MB, 2008MB available, 7488 GFLOPS peak) 25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | CAL: ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5800/5900 series (Cypress/Hemlock) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 4368 GFLOPS peak) 25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 2048MB, 2008MB available, 7488 GFLOPS peak) 25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 2048MB, 2008MB available, 7488 GFLOPS peak) 25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics 2500 (driver version 9.18.10.3165, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1624MB, 1624MB available, 17 GFLOPS peak) 25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | No NVIDIA library found The only strange thing now is, that all gpu's are GPU 0 now. HTH |
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Questions and problems :
Comment on BOINC 7
(Message 46460)
Posted 24 Nov 2012 by Alexander Post: After running BOINC 7 for a couple of months, I have to make one comment on the new design. +1 Alexander |
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Questions and problems :
Different type of BM: does this exist?
(Message 46436)
Posted 23 Nov 2012 by Alexander Post: No, nothing like that exists. Hi Jord, thx for the answer. SZTAKI have a hierarchical BOINC implementation. Source should be available soon. This was 21 months ago, looks like that this did not happen. Sorry, was a wonderful idea. Is there anything that could be done to bring this back to life? |
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Questions and problems :
Different type of BM: does this exist?
(Message 46432)
Posted 22 Nov 2012 by Alexander Post: I had an idea and was wondering if something like that already exists: I run a server with low computing power, but which may well distribute data. Is there such a thing as a BOINC Manager, who does not distributed the wu's to individual CPUs but to different computers, but keeps the BOINC work directory on his hard drive? The reason is quite simple: I run many computers, often only a few days to upgrade or repair; they need a test run. They could still do something for the science. Unfortunately they would produce a lot of half-finished wu's, because they must be returned. The advantage is clear: if a system is turned off, the 'BM' can carry on the wu on an different computer. Furthermore, there is no timeout after long weekends or holidays when individual computers are turned off 14 days. And the Notebooks could run wu's during backup or maintenance. Sorry, no reward for hints, just a nice thank you! Alexander |
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Questions and problems :
CPU not recognized
(Message 46207)
Posted 5 Nov 2012 by Alexander Post:
Well, this system was built with parts from 3 'thrown away's'. The MB is an ABIT, last FW from 2008, last three updates have nothing to do with CPU. The CPU was taken from a Shuttle; but as far as I can remember, this systam also did not report a cpu-type (in win xp). All in all it was a cheap system ( 0.- €, 2hrs of work), it works, all parts are outdated (DDR2, IDE HD). It's not worth to invest too much effort in fixing this (just if it's a wrong entry in an lookup-table or anything else which could be fixed in minutes). But anyway, thanks for the effort. Alexander |
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Questions and problems :
CPU not recognized
(Message 46188)
Posted 2 Nov 2012 by Alexander Post: Just want to report that one of my cpu's is not recognized by boinc edit: sorry, link to image lost. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50246791/cpu%20not%20recognized.PNG |
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GPUs :
Mixed GPU setup
(Message 42563)
Posted 14 Feb 2012 by Alexander Post: Update: Basically the system is working as I want it; nVidia crunches Einstein, HD58xx crunches Milkyway,Albert and Seti HD65xx (APU) crunches Albert and Seti Share is set equal for MW, Einstein and Albert. What happens is, that MW fills the buffer (0.5 days), no work for Seti or Albert is downloaded and the second GPU, the APU, stays idle. Need to put MW to hold, wait some time to get some Albert / Seti wu's downloaded, and set MW to work again. System needs babysitting. |
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