1) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33451) Posted 19 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: My video card has 1792 MB GDDR3 memory. As I indicated in an earlier post, I do not use the Aero desktop because I don't like it. I have a plain, vanilla desktop and taskbar. It is Windows Classic, with no bells and whistles. The settings for the BOINC screen saver were related in my original post on this thread. Now, of course, I have the screen saver turned off. What is GPUZ? I am confident that none of the temperatures in my CPU, GPU or MB are extraordinarily high. If I run a CUDA application, the GPU temperature increases, and the fan speed also increases accordingly. I am not running any graphics applications at this time other than the Windows 7 classic desktop. deesy

2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33444) Posted 18 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: I downloaded and ran FurMark. Here are the results. SCORE: 5849 points (60000 ms) MAX GPU Temp: 77 C FPS: Min=19 Max=163 Avg=98 The graphic looked quite good while the benchmark was running. Motion was smooth and detail was fine. Does this mean that OpenGL is working okay on my machine? Remember that, before I upgraded my machine from Windows XP SP3 to Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit), the screen saver appeared to be working well, but the "Show graphics" button would display only a black screen. Now, the screen saver produces a black screen, and the "Show graphics" button displays a graphic of the protein being processed, but it only updates about every two seconds, resulting in a very jerky, stop-action motion. This is quite frustrating. deesy BYW, I live in a very dry, dusty environment, so I regularly open my computer case and thoroughly clean the heat sinks (CPU and GPU) with high-pressure air, and an anti-static 3M technician's vacuum cleaner. Right now, the GPU is just idling. It isn't getting hot, and the fan is not running very fast. When I was running Windows XP, I also ran CUDA on the Collatz Conjecture Project for a couple of weeks, and the GPU was definitely working hard and running hot. Not anymore.

3) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33433) Posted 18 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: I understand completely! We are all volunteers. All of us who are contributing our computing resources to any of the various grid computing projects are volunteering. We are contributing our machine time, the electrical energy required to run the machines, and the energy required to remove the heat generated by our hardware. As far as I am aware, none of us is getting paid for any of it, so I guess everybody on this forum is a volunteer. I tested the "Show graphics" button in the BOINC Manager for my Rosetta tasks. It is now working, after a fashion. Unfortunately, the display updates only once every 2 seconds or so, so it really looks unimpressive. From what research I was able to complete, it might very well be the case that OpenGL is not running on my machine, and the graphics lag might be caused by DirectX. If this is the case, I have no idea how to activate OpenGL. It is not available as a separate package, and I have installed the very latest driver software from NVIDIA. The Windows 7 Device Manager confirms that I have the latest version of the video drivers. I am not running CUDA because it is not supported by the Rosetta Project, which is the only one I am interested in contributing to at this time. If there is some method of activating OpenGL that is independent of the NVIDIA drivers installation, I would certainly be happy to learn of it. BTW, the fact that some software program works on somebody's computer (with different hardware and OS software) does not mean that it will work on anybody else's computer, right? deesy

4) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33427) Posted 17 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: Hmm. That's an interesting idea, but why would I do that? When I look at my "Screen Saver Settings," I see an entry for BOINC, but none for Rosetta. If I right-click on the icon in my Service Tray, I am asked if I want to open the "BOINC Manager," not the "Rosetta Manager." So far, I haven't gotten much help from either organization (Rosetta or BOINC), as they seem to be fond of pointing fingers at each other. How professional is that? It sounds like I am not the only contributor who is experiencing problems with the BOINC screen saver. Does anybody really believe that "ostrichism" will solve any problems anytime soon? deesy

5) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33416) Posted 17 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: I visited the NVIDIA Web site, where I downloaded and installed the very latest drivers for my video card. I did that a couple of days ago. I doubt that there is a newer driver available. I also visited the Microsoft Web site and installed the latest version of Direct X. The screen saver seemed to work okay under Windows XP, but not under Windows 7. The "Show graphics" button for Rosetta has never worked on my machine. I haven't tried it with Windows 7, but if it doesn't work in the screen saver, I would be surprised if the button would be any different. I will, however, try it. The Rosetta tasks that get into a state where they don't advance is not a factor in this issue. I have observed that anomaly to be a relatively common problem with Rosetta tasks, and it is annoying to abort so many tasks and lose the "points" therefrom. I have aborted about 8 or 10 Rosetta tasks in the past two months when they "crashed." It is interesting to note that, when the tasks enter this state, they stop using CPU cycles all together. If I suspend, exit, reenter, then resume the task, I lose progress on the task, and it is likely to "crash" again, so I simply abort the task. Somebody needs to look at this problem and fix it. Why would that be so difficult? Right now, running Rosetta tasks on both CPUs, my machine is using 1.1 GB out of 2.0 GB total. It doesn't look like memory is a problem. I'm not running the "Aero" desktop. I don't like it. Everything is plain vanilla. It looks very much like the XP desktop. I'm also not trying to run anything in XP or virtualization mode. As I said, plain vanilla. deesy

6) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33408) Posted 16 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: Hmm. Well, since the BOINC SS is clearly not working properly, I DID turn it off in Windows 7. It is unfortunate, however, that I can't show others what the project is trying to accomplish because the graphics are no longer displaying the tasks. The real questions are: Is this a known problem, and are there any fixes for it in the works? deesy

7) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33382) Posted 15 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: NVIDIA GEForce GTX 295. Rosetta, only. deesy

8) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33372) Posted 15 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: Clearly, the BOINC screen saver is not working properly with Windows 7 on my machine. It activated more than an hour ago, and during the past hour, my screen was perfectly blank and black. Power saving was not activated. The screen saver was just displaying a blank screen. deesy

9) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33367) Posted 14 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: Latest and greatest of both. deesy

10) Message boards : Questions and problems : Screen Saver - Windows 7 (Message 33349) Posted 14 Jun 2010 by deesy58 Post: I upgraded my XP machine to Windows 7 last week. Now, I seem to be having a lot of problems with the BOINC screen saver. I have noticed two bothersome anomalies: 1. When the Rosetta dynamic protein molecule structures display, they seem to be in slow motion, with a new structure being displayed only once per second. The animation was much, much faster under XP. 2. Often, my screen will simply blank out and display the Windows 7 "loading" icon of a small blue circle. This will remain on the screen for a lengthy period of time, and nothing else will be displayed unless I deactivate the screen saver by moving the mouse or striking a key on the keyboard. "Blank Screensaver after:" is set to "Never." "Run BOINC screensaver for:" is set to "10." "Run project screensavers for:" is set to "1hr." "Switch between project screensavers every:" is set to "15." "Power Saver" is unchecked, Preferred Power Plan is "Balanced," and the screensaver activates after 30 minutes. Are these anomalies being caused by an incompatibility between BOINC and Windows 7, or are some of these screensaver settings incorrect? Thanks! deesy

11) Message boards : Questions and problems : Project Tasks Still Running at 0% CPU (Message 32461) Posted 29 Apr 2010 by deesy58 Post: As of this morning, the first task is still stuck at 62.114%, even though BOINC Manager says that it is "Running, high priority." The second really is running. I have two files named "stdoutdae," one has a ".txt" extension and the other has a ".old" extension. They have the exact same time/date stamp of 2/29/2010 7:29 AM (even though I did not suspend the tasks until about 7:56 AM, and my system clock is accurate. stdoutdae.old is 2,048 KB in length, while stdoutdae.txt is 756 KB in length. Entries in stdoutdae.old have times from approximately 6:59 AM to approximately 7:42 AM today. stdoutdae.txt appears to still be receiving entries. The first entry in it was at 6:59 AM, and the last entry was at 8:11 AM, about five minutes ago. I assume that neither of these files will contain useful information. I can save them and send them if you wish, but I would like to reboot my machine and get the task that is stuck at 62% running again. It is taking me several days to complete tasks because of the hang ups. Please advise. deesy

12) Message boards : Questions and problems : Project Tasks Still Running at 0% CPU (Message 32446) Posted 29 Apr 2010 by deesy58 Post: I wrote the XML file and put in the correct folder, then read the config file per your directions. One of the two tasks has now ceased running, although the BOINC Manager reports that it is running at high priority. I have no idea when the task ceased running, so I have no way of finding a 6-minute section of a log. BTW, which log should I be looking at? What, specifically, should I be looking for? The script appears to be wotking because I now see a constant stream of messages in the Advanced view Messages window. I will leave the machine processing the remaining one task for the rest of the night, but I am pretty confident that it will be doing nothing by morning. deesy

13) Message boards : Questions and problems : Project Tasks Still Running at 0% CPU (Message 32442) Posted 29 Apr 2010 by deesy58 Post: Okay, Jord. I'll do that. FYI, I used BOINC Manager to suspend the two tasks that were "Running, High Priority," and the two tasks that were waiting to start, so that I could run a complete AV scan on my system (Windows Live OneCare). It found no malware, so I restarted the suspended tasks. The two that had been running at high priority were reported by BOINC Manager to have resumed running at high priority, and the other two were reported as waiting to start. Unfortunately, neither of the tasks that were reported as running were really doing so (unless BOINC has found a way to run without using the CPU). The Windows Task Manager reported the System Idle Process as accounting for 99% of CPU usage, and my CPU fan was very quiet. deesy

14) Message boards : Questions and problems : Project Tasks Still Running at 0% CPU (Message 32440) Posted 28 Apr 2010 by deesy58 Post: I am using BOINC for Rosetta@Home. After a reboot, I will see two tasks running in BOINC Manager, and my Windows Task Manager shows 50% of CPU time dedecated to each task. Within a few hours (less than 4), the progress on both tasks will have stopped, but BOINC Manager will still indicate that both tasks are still "Running." CPU usage will be 99% Idle Process, and the two minirosetta_2.11_windows_intelx86.exe processes will be at 0% CPU usage. It makes no difference what else is running. It happened twice during the night when nothing else was running, and it happened twice yesterday when I was using the machine for other things. The "Messages" show nothing at the time that the processing ceases. This is getting to be a real nuisance. Nothing works to restart the tasks except rebooting my machine or aborting the tasks (then they seem to be reassigned, and the whole process starts all over again). I am running XP-SP3 (all updates current) on a Pentium D with 2 Gigs RAM and a GTX 295 GPU. I have 24 Gigabytes free on my HDDs. I have seen posts from others about this same problem, and responses from Site Moderators to the effect that the problem can't be reproduced. What is causing this, and how can it be fixed? deesy

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