Posts by DigiK-oz

1) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc no longer connects in protected (service) mode (Message 40475)
Posted 30 Sep 2011 by DigiK-oz
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Thanks for the clarification, Rom. I have one question : does this only work for BOINC service install, or would it also work for normal install, where boinc.exe is started as a scheduled task at windows startup?

The reason I want to do it this way (which used to work till the ATI 11.7 drivers) is that I do want to use the GPU when I login myself, but I also want BOINC to run when the PC is used by someone else. If I login, I simply kill the scheduled task, start BOINC manager and presto, BOINC starts and GPU goes to work (well, used to in the pre-11.7 era. Now, the scheduled task suffers from the same issue as the service install does)

I could of course do a service install to have BOINC run no matter if anyone logged in, or who logged in. But that way, I can not run GPU applications ever.
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Using BOINC with more than one user logged in. (Message 40474)
Posted 30 Sep 2011 by DigiK-oz
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That won't make users with long running tasks, that don't checkpoint very often, happy I assume....
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc no longer connects in protected (service) mode (Message 40050)
Posted 7 Sep 2011 by DigiK-oz
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I am aware of the differences as far as GPU detection goes with PAE versus non-PAE. I have the described problem when BOINC is installed as a service (PAE).

But, I ALSO have the same issue when simply running BOINC.EXE as a scheduled task, which also has been working fine until the ATI 11.7 drivers (even though when using the scheduled task method, no GPU was detected either, as with PAE). The scheduled task is configured to run under the userid I also use to logon and start BOINC manually, which then runs fine.

What I mean is, the problem definitely exists with PAE, but not ONLY with PAE. That's why I asked if the Boinc service control you mentioned was also involved when running BOINC from scheduled task.

In PAE/scheduled task cases, using procmon, I see BOINC.EXE reading some registry keys over and over again. It also reads (some of) those keys on a normal (succesful) startup, but with PAE/Scheduled task startup it seems to loop there somehow.

I found a (probably) related thread :
http://aqua.dwavesys.com/forum_thread.php?id=629&sort=5#8535
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc no longer connects in protected (service) mode (Message 40034)
Posted 6 Sep 2011 by DigiK-oz
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Is this service control program also involved when BOINC is NOT installed as a service (PAE)? Since I have the same issue if I have a non-PAE install, and try to start BOINC (BOINC.EXE itself) as a scheduled task (at startup, or at a certain time of day). Maybe some session 0 issue?
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc no longer connects in protected (service) mode (Message 40010)
Posted 5 Sep 2011 by DigiK-oz
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I have the exact same problem on one system since the ATI 11.7 drivers. Running as a service, or as a scheduled task at startup, BOINC starts, but does not start any tasks and boincmgr cannot connect. Using procmon, I see that BOINC is reading some registry keys apparently pertaining to the ATI video card over and over again.

WIN7 64 bit. Other similar systems with no ATI card have no problems at all.
6) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC cc using excess CPU as service (Message 33423)
Posted 17 Jun 2010 by DigiK-oz
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ADVAPI32.DLL contains, among others, registry reasd/write functions. I've had a cpu-usage problem with boinc manager a while ago, where it would re-read all its registry settings every few seconds (see http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=4491#28701). Turned out to be caused bij kaspersky internet security 2010. I fixed that by a uninstall/re-install of Kaspersky.

You might want to check WHAT boinc is doing during high cpu usage by using procmon, which will show things like file i/o, registry operations etc.
7) Message boards : BOINC Manager : High CPU Utilization for boincmgr.exe (Message 29394)
Posted 12 Dec 2009 by DigiK-oz
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I can confirm that patch a.b. got rid of this issue (and indeed, still have 1% cpu every few seconds, but that's a lot better than before). I will run traces to see what boincmgr is up to now when using CPU.

Since I've been running in simple mode for the past few days, I noticed boincmgr, when minimized to tray, "stealing focus" from my other programs (browser, development stuff, etc). Will keep an eye on this now that I'm back to advanced view.
8) Message boards : BOINC Manager : High CPU Utilization for boincmgr.exe (Message 29257)
Posted 5 Dec 2009 by DigiK-oz
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LOL, will do. Glad you got it fixed. Hope it stays that way!



Well, it didn't. A few days later, Kaspersky is up to it's old tricks again :-(

So, I am running mostly simple view now. I notice however, that the language setting appears to get lost when switching between advanced and simple...

No big deal, but something the devs might wanna have a look at.
9) Message boards : BOINC Manager : High CPU Utilization for boincmgr.exe (Message 29044)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by DigiK-oz
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Doubtful that it's coincidence. See http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7671#100700 for a whole run-down on what Kapersky does. Might be useful stuff for Rom to read as well.


Ok, to prevent us barking up the wrong tree, I uninstalled KIS2010 (I tried disabling it before, even exiting it, to no avail), and during the uninstall, even before the reboot, the CPU spikes were gone. After the reboot I let boincmgr run for some time, no spikes.

I then re-installed Kaspersky, all default install options. The spikes did NOT appear after this fresh install.

I've had several issues with KIS2010 before,slowing down my system, which were (temporarily) fixed by a clean install, or sometimes just a repair install. Guess this is just another one of those quirks. I'm so fed up with KIS2010....

Anyway, problem solved. NOT a BOINC problem. Thanks for your assistance and please inform Rom he can go ahead and do something usefull with his time instead of chasing Kaspersky's bugs.
10) Message boards : BOINC Manager : High CPU Utilization for boincmgr.exe (Message 29031)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by DigiK-oz
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OK, I have sent a procmon logfile to the e-mail address mentioned.

As for the suggestion of running 2 instances of boincmgr, changing some layout and see what happens : I changed various layout settings (column width, window size etc) in one boincmgr, and the other one did NOT follow up, i.e. it kept its own settings, even after exiting the first one.

Re-reading the thread, I notice that I am running the same antivirus package and version as nemesisdb is. Coincidence, maybe...but then again :-)
11) Message boards : BOINC Manager : High CPU Utilization for boincmgr.exe (Message 29013)
Posted 26 Nov 2009 by DigiK-oz
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What happens if you apply the tasks view filter to only show active tasks?


No difference, and I have only 6 tasks active and 4 in queue.

EDIT : Upon further investigation, when in advanced mode, boincmgr does hundreds of registry reads when the CPU spikes. In simple mode, this does not happen. Keys almost all start with:

HKCU\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager

BOINC keeps all the grid layout information (column to sort on, column widths, etc.) for all the advanced view tabs there. A few reads at startup would be expected and legitimate, but it shouldn't need to reassure itself that nothing has changed several hundred times a second.


Agree, but it appears that that's exactly what it does. Well, not 100's of times a second, but at least once (100's of keys) every 5 seconds. I see it checking for fontsubstitues, column width etc.
12) Message boards : BOINC Manager : High CPU Utilization for boincmgr.exe (Message 29007)
Posted 26 Nov 2009 by DigiK-oz
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I seem to have the same problem, cpu usage goes up to above 10% (I7 HT). boincmgr has so far eaten 2 hours 25 minutes in about 9 hours wall clock time. I guess that CPU time could have been put to good use elsewhere :-)

BOINC 6.10.18, CORE I7, Windows7 64 bit. Excluding BOINC's datafiles from antivirus made no difference. Switching to simple view solves the issue instantly.

According to process explorer, boincmgr has 7 threads, and one of them is responsible for 99% of this behavior. It is classified as : boincmgr.exe+0x10e1f0

The cpu usage spikes at every 5 seconds.

EDIT : Upon further investigation, when in advanced mode, boincmgr does hundreds of registry reads when the CPU spikes. In simple mode, this does not happen. Keys almost all start with:

HKCU\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager
13) Message boards : Questions and problems : 6.4.5. does not always fetch enough work (Message 22741)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by DigiK-oz
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Thanks for the quick reply, could not find the answer in the forum (my search skills....). I currently run a single project, and that seems to work. If I go to multiple projects again, I will keep the fallback to 6.2 in mind.
14) Message boards : Questions and problems : 6.4.5. does not always fetch enough work (Message 22735)
Posted 28 Jan 2009 by DigiK-oz
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I have an issue with 6.4.5. I have no CUDA (it runs as a service). 8 CPU's I have BOINC use 6 maximum. I had two projects running, and both ran 3 WU's simultaneously. So far, so good.

But now I want to switch projects, so I have one of the projects set to "no new work". When a WU for that project is finished, it does not get new work (as it should), but the other project stays on 3 WU's as well. So I currently have only 4 CPU's occupied instead of 6, I wonder what will happen if the last WU of the "no new work" project will finish.

Another (non-related) issue : If I set a machine to crunch from 18:00 to 08:00 it (sometimes?) only runs from 18:00 to midnight and idles the rest of the alotted time.

6.4.5. seems a little lazy :-)
15) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC 6.4.5 Not install as a service on XP Pro (Message 22161)
Posted 29 Dec 2008 by DigiK-oz
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I've had the very same problem on my Vista Ultimate X86-64 SP1 machine. I found that even though I had selected the PAE option, no services were created. Looking at the registry key mentioned earlier in this thread, I found the ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION2 registry key to be set to 0. I uninstalled BOINC, manually set the key to 1 and did a re-install. During install, the PAE was checked, so I left that alone. That appeared to do the trick, I now have a BOINC service running.

Maybe others experiencing the problem can try this? It appears that the registry key is not set correctly if you modify the PAE settings during setup?
16) Message boards : BOINC client : Bogus/corrupted benchmark scores (Message 13934)
Posted 18 Nov 2007 by DigiK-oz
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System clock is correct, synced automatically. No syncing took place during the benchmarks.

@ananas : never been involved in SETI gauntlets.
17) Message boards : BOINC client : Bogus/corrupted benchmark scores (Message 13858)
Posted 15 Nov 2007 by DigiK-oz
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Running BOINC 5.10.28, various projects. Recently, a CPU benchmark was run giving me 45229 integer operations (C2D 4300). I reran the bencmark, it gave me 22102 integer operations. Another rerun resulted in 1 integer operation, which remains after several reruns of the benchmark, including stop/start service and reboot. Floating point ops appear to be correct.

Looking in client_state.xml, I noticed the following line for p_iops :

<p_iops>1.#INF00</p_iops>

Which explains the value of 1 interger op. Seems the xml gets corrupted somewhere.

BOINC 5.10.28 on VISTA home premium, service-install. Everything seems to work fine except the benchmark scores.

Anyone else seen this? Any suggestions? Never seen this on earlier versions.




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