Posts by Odd-Rod

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1) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC wont download other project work unless suspending seti
Message 26020
Posted 15 Jul 2009 by Odd-Rod
Unfortunately 6.6.36 doesn't work well with Milkyway. I, and several others at MW had the same problem. Each person solved the problem by going back to an earlier Boinc version (6.6.28 in my case). And I might add, it DID finish work in time, and all the other work, too.

So, somehow 6.6.36 and MW have uncovered a bug which doesn't seem to exist unless both are involved. But for now, go back to an earlier version and you'll find work downloading again.

Rod
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Dual booting on p.c
Message 25083
Posted 27 May 2009 by Odd-Rod
Thank you Jord for the quick reply. It appears that if XP and Linux are treated seperately, I may not be able to fulfill the workload as I have to split the runningtime between XP and Linux. I will have to see how it goes

Richard Nolan


Boinc keeps a record of how much time a host actually crunches and will only download enough for that time. However, it will take quite a while for Boinc to get a good average for the host. In your case Linux and XP will each be regarded as a host.

For a while my son dual booted XP and Vista, so I experimented with this. The problem is that if your usage varies greatly (as his did), Boinc doesn't always get it right and you get work not finished in time.

Just an extra half-off-topic comment based on another experiment with his system:
On an XP - Vista system, if you use separate Boinc folders for the 2 installations, but a common BoincData folder, it does work. It seems that the OS is seen by projects as the same. But obviously this won't work for Linux - XP.

Rod
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : Boinc Service not working
Message 23058
Posted 11 Feb 2009 by Odd-Rod
Unless you HAVE to have cuda, then 6.2.19 is the newest version that you should use.


6.4.5 is the current version you'll download if you just follow the 'Download' link on the home page.
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : Graphics Card Fry?
Message 22388
Posted 12 Jan 2009 by Odd-Rod
Use the venues (default, home, work, school etc.) or get BOINC 6.5.0 (or later) and use the option in cc_config.xml .. See this FAQ.


Just wondering if this is a typo in the FAQ?

<np_gpus>1</no_gpus>

I'm guessing the first 'np_gpus' should actually be 'no_gpus' like the second one? (I'm not using 6.5, nor do I have a GPU yet, so I can't test it.)

Thanks and regards
Rod
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : read_global_prefs_override
Message 19047
Posted 1 Aug 2008 by Odd-Rod
I wonder if in this transitional period where projects have yet not adopted the % parm in their website profiles, if there is a mechanism to translate the old to new on the client side?

Nope, the preference change was done without any thought about backwards compatibility or userfriendliness.

Without any thought, really.


Sadly, I agree with this comment. I may be wrong but I think users would want to specify the exact number of CPUs to use, rather than a fraction.

Also, 75% of 4 cores is 3, but what is 75% of 2 cores? Which way does it round off?
But, for me I'll just get to know the values I want and live with it.
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : Time to Completion
Message 17722
Posted 7 Jun 2008 by Odd-Rod
How it got to this big a number? One possible cause is a system-clock that was way off (couple of months into the future or past) while BOINC was running.


Another possible cause is if a WU takes much longer than it should, for whatever reason (I once had a hung application that made one of my hosts crawl and badly upset my DCF for a project). The DCF then gets adjusted upwards as if all estimated completion times for that project are that far out. It will adjust downwards again as more WUs are crunched (in their normal amount of time), but this downward adjustment is much slower - I believe it is 10% of the adjustment that should be made to fully correct the factor.

Rod
7) Message boards : BOINC client : Upgrading BOINC
Message 15955
Posted 16 Mar 2008 by Odd-Rod
If you don't exit then I'm surprised the BOINC executable can be updated. But even if it is I don't think you will be running the new version until you do exit and restart BOINC.


The installer is smart enough to shut down the running core client. I've tested it.

Aha, and now I'm a little bit smarter than I was a moment ago! Thanks.


That said, I usually stop the service when I upgrade just to be on the safe side.

Yup, better safe than sorry. I even used to copy my whole BOINC folder before an update, but I don't usually go that far anymore.

Rod
8) Message boards : BOINC client : Upgrading BOINC
Message 15932
Posted 16 Mar 2008 by Odd-Rod
Can I exit BOINC, upgrade and then restart any tasks, or will this cause problems?

That's how I do it. Not a problem for me.

I don't even exit most of the time. However when it comes time to go to a version 6 client more precautions will be advisable.


If you don't exit then I'm surprised the BOINC executable can be updated. But even if it is I don't think you will be running the new version until you do exit and restart BOINC.

I exit BOINC when updating. No problems, projects carry on.

Regards
Rod
9) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Improving BOINC desktop experience (performance wise)
Message 15877
Posted 13 Mar 2008 by Odd-Rod
Note: boinccmd NOT boinc_cmd
Perhaps the name changed as I've seen many references to boinc_cmd?


It's called boinc_cmd on Linux systems.

Aha, that explains it!

Also, the batch file MUST be in the Boinc directory else you get "Authorization failure: -155" error message. (Thanks to Ageless in another thread for that info)


If you include the password and hostname on the command line it can be run from any directory or from any machine on your LAN. The password is in boinc/gui_auth.cfg and it may be the very long password assigned by BOINC but you can change it to something shorter using a text editor.

More useful info! Thanks. Yes, I've changed mine and use the same one on my various hosts for ease of connecting.

Change all the slashes in the examples to backslashes.


I noticed when I posted that my backslashes disappeared, but when I edited the posting to put them back, they remained!

Thanks again
Rod
10) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Improving BOINC desktop experience (performance wise)
Message 15871
Posted 13 Mar 2008 by Odd-Rod

If the software you're using is command-line, or has some way to automate it, you can run "boinc_cmd --set_run_mode never" just before the heavy processing, and "boinc_cmd --set_run_mode always" just after it ends.


Great stuff! Using the above, I now have a batch file with the following:

"c:\program files\boinc\boinccmd.exe" --set_run_mode never
*My application*
"c:\program files\boinc\boinccmd.exe" --set_run_mode always

Note: boinccmd NOT boinc_cmd
Perhaps the name changed as I've seen many references to boinc_cmd?
Also, the batch file MUST be in the Boinc directory else you get "Authorization failure: -155" error message. (Thanks to Ageless in another thread for that info)

I changed the icon to the application's icon and set the batch to run minimized, so the only difference to me is an extra item in the taskbar.

A last note if you normally run according to preferences, is use "auto" instead of "always"

Many thanks for sorting out a nuisance factor for me!
Regards
Rod
11) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Improving BOINC desktop experience (performance wise)
Message 15835
Posted 12 Mar 2008 by Odd-Rod
I have to check if it is malaria@home or rosetta@home (or LHC?) but one of these applications made the mouse movements rather choppy on a slightly inferior machine (Pentium IV Mobile 2 GHz, 1 GB RAM)

So my guess would be that not the manager and not the client but the actual application run is the root cause here.

Cheers
PJ


I can confirm that certain applications affect performance more than others. Off hand I'm not sure which ones, but I think you're right about rosetta@home.

I agree wholeheartedly with Zeev Suraski that a preference setting for the number of cpus while active or idle would be a great advance - I've actually been planning to post that in the wish list thread.

Another variation on that idea would be to have Boinc detect what applications (non boinc ones) are running and allow a cpu setting based on that. When I do video editing I suspend boinc, but leave it running when doing less intensive tasks. Having it back off or reduce number of cpus automatically would be great!

Regards
Rod
12) Message boards : Server programs : A thought about aborting WUs
Message 13682
Posted 9 Nov 2007 by Odd-Rod

I think, a credits penalty for those aborted WUs that have not even been tried to crunch (CPU time less than a minute or so) would be a good idea.

I'm aware that there are some real reasons to abort a WU, like a known faulty batch - but for that batch the admin could set a "no malus" flag or abort it on server side, which could be taken as a sign for "no penalty".


(now waiting for the stones to be thrown at me)


A good idea in principle, but it must be carefully applied to not mistakenly penalize "justified aborts".
I trust that pebble was tossed gently enough to not hurt? ;)

As per Keck Computers posting:
There is a penalty for aborting tasks either manually or from server-side aborts. In either case the daily quota is reduced 1 per abort.


Perhaps the number to reduce by could be increased for the "unjustified aborts" ? At least this way, even wrong penalties will not be too severe.

And one last question - how soon does the daily quota increase again?
Regards
Rod
13) Message boards : BOINC Manager : My Wish List - 2
Message 13382
Posted 29 Oct 2007 by Odd-Rod
Works for me. If you disable network activity, BOINC doesn't do any network activity on its own. Only if you explicitly tell it to, by for example updating a project.


I think you have misunderstood the issue: the problem is that it is simply not possible to start Boinc without some kind of net connection. For example, on my Gentoo machine I have to start either the cable or wireless card to be able to start Boinc. It doesn't matter if there is any internet behind the router, Boinc just needs some network.
It would be nice if this could get fixed in the future.


I've noticed this too. I have a laptop with a wireless card. If I don't have the card plugged in, BOINC does not run. After a short time after manually starting BOINC, I checked the task manager and can confirm it was not running. So if I want BOINC to run I insert the card, even though there is no wireless network within range. Seems a strange thing to have to do.

Rod


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