Posts by Charles Dennett

1) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64333)
Posted 17 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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The workunits are the same for 32 or 64 bit. They're just data. It's whatever executable is used to process them.
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64329)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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I got impatient and reset the project. It then downloaded the 64 bit executable and new tasks and is using the 64 bit executable on them. I still have the no_alt_platform in the cc_config file. I may play around with it a bit later to see what happens.

Charlie
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64328)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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Something might be working here. On the application details for the host page

http://findah.ucd.ie/host_app_versions.php?hostid=35108

I see the number of tasks sent as 64 bit work (number of tasks today) increasing as it sends new work. I think once those make it to the top of the queue, it might start using the 64 bit executable although it has not yet downloaded it.
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64327)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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That's weird. Do you have the file in right place? Mistyped the tag name?


Yes, the cc_config.xml already existed and I just added the line. Copy and paste from the web page even. Double checked everything and it looks ok. I know I have to tell boinc to reread the file when I change it. I've been trying to catch the sched_request and sched_reply files (they change on every request) and it seems to be asking for the 64 bit version. I may have to wait as it already had a couple of hours worth of work before I added the line you suggested. Perhaps only the most recent downloads will use the 64 bit.

Then again, as Richard suggested, the project severely underestimated the run time of tasks a while ago and that made the 64 bit app that I was using at the time look very slow, so maybe the project thinks it knows better.

Charlie
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64318)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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Added no_alt_paltform to my cc_config.xml file. Didn't seem to make a difference.
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64317)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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On a Linux system the 64 bit libraries are in /lib64 and /usr/lib64. 32 bit libraries are in /usr/lib and /lib. There is no directory named lib32 anywhere that I could find.

I'll give that no_alt_platform a shot and see what happens.

Charlie
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64314)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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No luck. I first changed the rpc_seq number to 0. Started boinc. It reregistered the host with a new id number and used the old host entry but still used the 32 bit binary. Then I stopped everything after the few tasks had completed. I removed everything boinc and reinstalled. I attached to the project. It registered the host as new but still used the old host id and still used the 32 bit binary.

Someone suggested perhaps a 32 bit library somewhere is fooling boinc into thinking it can only run 32 bit. I've had both 32 and 64 bit libraries on this system for ever so I'm not sure what it causing the confusion.

I guess I'll live with it for now.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I really appreciate it.

Charlie
8) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64313)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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When I rebuilt the system this past weekend and reinstalled boinc, it took over the old hostid. That's what made be think a complete removal and reinstall might work. But, before i do that I'll give what you suggest a shot and see what happens.
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64311)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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There have always been 32 bit and 64 bit libraries on these systems. It's nothing new. I went back through the logs and see where some 32 bit libraries were upgraded (meaning newer versions replaced older versions) but I didn't see where anything was installed. I'll be trying one more thing - a complete removal and installation of boinc. If that doesn't fix it, and I'm not confident it will, I'll live with it unless I get a new idea.

Thanks for the input.

Charlie
10) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64305)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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One other thing I just noticed. For the other project I crunch, it has the alt_platform lines in its sched_request file saying it is 32 bit but uses the 64 bit executable. That project supplies both 32 and 64 bit Linux executables.
11) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64304)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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Yes, it is. The other projects I have also have the same lines in their sched_request files on the 2 systems that have been running for who knows how long. They no longer appear in the one I rebuilt this weekend. However, before that, they did.

Since it is apparently happening on other projects, I thought it might be better to ask here.

I realize it's not a critical problem, but it just bothers me and I want to figure out why.
12) Message boards : Questions and problems : 64 bit system suddenly thinks it is 32 bit. (Message 64302)
Posted 16 Sep 2015 by Charles Dennett
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I have 3 64 bit Linux systems all running Fedora 22 with the latest patches. Several weeks ago they started thinking they are 32 bit. They started using the 32 bit executables for the projects I crunch. I found lines like this in the sched_request files for each project:

    <platform_name>x86_64-pc-linux-gnu</platform_name>
    <alt_platform>
        <name>i686-pc-linux-gnu</name>
    </alt_platform>


This past weekend one of those system had a failed disk drive and I had to replace it and rebuild the system from scratch. Still Fedora 22 with all the latest patches. All of a sudden it no longer believes it is 32 bit. The alt_platform stanza no longer appears in any of its sched_request files.

I guessing that some package or patch that got installed when this started is confusing whatever it is in the boinc client that decides if it is 64 bit capable or not. Perhaps some 64 bit library was not updated. When I reinstalled the system this past weekend, I grabbed the KDE LiveCD and used that to reinstall. Other than the boinc-client, I installed nothing extra.

I've googled around and found nothing appropriate. Next step is to see if I can grab the source and take a look although I'm not a developer, only a UNIX/Linux admin so I may or may not have any luck. Oh, and boinc clinet and manager is installed from the packages supplied in the Fedora repository. It is version 7.2.42.

Any hints or suggestions would be appreciated. If more info is needed, let me know.
13) Message boards : Projects : News about NRG ? (Message 58597)
Posted 10 Dec 2014 by Charles Dennett
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And it's down again. I posted to the forums over a week ago asking what was happening but never got a response.
14) Message boards : Projects : News about NRG ? (Message 56719)
Posted 15 Oct 2014 by Charles Dennett
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NRG web site is back up.
15) Message boards : Projects : News about NRG ? (Message 56657)
Posted 13 Oct 2014 by Charles Dennett
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Wondering the same thing.
16) Message boards : Questions and problems : Tasks Not Uploading and No New Tasks Downloading (Message 55190)
Posted 31 Jul 2014 by Charles Dennett
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Someone mentioned POEM. Seems they are out of work. I posted something in the forum there asking what's up.

As others noted, Rosetta has a network issue on the UW campus somewhere and they are looking into it. Uploads/downloads do make it every once is a while so the network is not totally dead, just very very slow.
17) Message boards : Questions and problems : error attaching project on fedora 20 (Message 54435)
Posted 11 Jun 2014 by Charles Dennett
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I run in on Fedora 20 on 4 systems with no problem.

Some questions

- Did you install boinc-client, enable the service and start the service as root?

- If you issue the command "ps -ef | grep boinc" do you see anything like this:

boinc 2067 1 0 Jun08 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/bin/boinc --dir /var/lib/boinc
boinc 2068 2067 1 Jun08 ? 00:50:31 /usr/bin/boinc_client --dir /var/lib/boinc


first column is the user running the process - boinc in this case.

- What shows up in /var/log/boinc.log and /var/log/boincerr.log?

Charlie
18) Message boards : BOINC Manager : On Linux - Focus forces window to top (Message 54393)
Posted 8 Jun 2014 by Charles Dennett
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I run BOINC on 4 Linux (Fedora) systems with the KDE desktop. I have it configured so that the window focus follows the mouse but the window with the focus doe *not* rise to the top. That works for everything except the BOINC Manager. Whenever the mouse pointer is in the BOINC Manager window, it pops right to the top of all other windows. I have not seen anyone else mention this problem. I've search my KDE desktop configuration and found nothing related to this. Anyone else notice this behavior? Any way to fix it so the BOINC Manager window does not rise to the top when it has the focus?

Thanks,
Charlie
19) Message boards : Questions and problems : Can anyone install BOINC on Fedora 20? (Message 54335)
Posted 5 Jun 2014 by Charles Dennett
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I've got it running on Fedora 20 on 4 systems, my home server, a couple of old Dell laptops and an old HP Pavilion notebook. Works fine. No problems at all.

systemctl needs to be run as root. Either login as root, su to root or use sudo.

The way you quote what you are trying to do is a bit confusing. You have the word enter inside the quotes. Enter is not part of the command. The command is:

systemctl enable boinc-client.service

If for some reason this still does not work, systemctl is in /usr/bin. That directory must be in your shell's path. Strange if it is not there already. So try fully qualifying the command - ie. /usr/bin/systemctl.

Hope this helps.

Charlie
20) Message boards : Projects : NRG@Home (Message 53919)
Posted 2 May 2014 by Charles Dennett
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I joined this morning and attached my 4 systems. Right now they are full of docking@home work but that project ended a couple of days ago and is not handing out new work (and stopped accepting completed work although they said they would for the next few weeks.) Came across this project and since I prefer life science projects I thought I'd give it a try. So I signed up this morning. I checked the website just now and see I've already been named user of the day! Cool. I guess I'll have to stick around.

Charlie


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