Posts by Dagorath

1) Message boards : Server programs : SMTP? (Message 42309)
Posted 28 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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Did you install BOINC server or BOINC client and manager?
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Debian: Error -155: authentication error (Message 42308)
Posted 28 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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Martin,

It sounds like your account doesn't have permission to read or write gui_rpc_auth.cfg. You may have to login as root to access it.
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : openSUSE 12.1 + BOINC = failure (Message 42307)
Posted 28 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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No problem, I was ribbing too ;-)
4) Message boards : Projects : Test4Theory (AKA LHC@home 2.0) NEWS (Message 42279)
Posted 27 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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.. and we would all be happy with 640KB RAM... "640 K should be enough for anybody"... B. Gates on one of his better days.

Actually, this is a myth, he never said that. From http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1997/01/1484 (amongst a lot of other places):

On the site, Gates takes questions from kids.

QUESTION: "I read in a newspaper that in l981 you said '640K of memory should be enough for anybody.' What did you mean when you said this?"

ANSWER: "I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time."

Gates goes on a bit about 16-bit computers and megabytes of logical address space, but the kid's question (will this boy never work at Microsoft?) clearly rankled the billionaire visionary.

"Meanwhile, I keep bumping into that silly quotation attributed to me that says 640K of memory is enough. There's never a citation; the quotation just floats like a rumor, repeated again and again."

Silly quotations do have a way of floating like rumors.


He said it the day of The Rooftop Party. I saw him say it on TV. I also saw the only interview he ever granted to any reporter after the Rooftop Party when the US Dept. of Justice took Microsoft to court over charges of monopoly and unfair trade practices which was a mistake when they could have put him in jail for fraud quite easily. Gates, the reporter and the camera went to McDonald's for a bite and Gates made the reporter pay for his own Big Mac. Saw it right there on TV with my own eyes. The richest thief in the world can't buy a reporter a Big Mac. Gates is a douchebag, a liar and his software is crap, all of it, always has been and always will be. The only reason he gives money to charity now is because he sees his death not far off and he's trying to make up for defrauding billions of dollars from innocent people so he doesn't go to hell which is exactly where he belongs.

Most people will install Chrome or Firefox (very easy to do in spite of what you may think) and get on with life.

Oh, I know it's very easy to install such and so software, but making it the default browser so it starts as said default browser? No.


When I installed Firefox and started it for the first time it told me it was not the default browser and asked me if I wanted to make it the default browser. I clicked 'Yes' and poof! like magic it was the default browser. You find clicking 'yes' difficult? Are all your fingers amputated or something? I don't understand.

Anyway, Firefox doesn't need to be the default browser to see the T4T tutorial or their 'graphics'. Just put a shortcut to Firefox on your desktop, click it and poof! like magic it starts and then you click the link or the bookmark and you're there. I guess that's difficult if all your fingers are missing. Maybe they can give you a bionic hand or something.

Then there's the little known fact that a lot of people, even ones running BOINC, think that their computer exists of Windows with a monitor, or for that matter Linux and a monitor. How many times do we have to ask for details on their system? How many people here still believe that everything runs in BOINC Manager? ..


That describes a lot of users but not the majority and we're talking about browsers not BOINC. The fact is IE is crap, anybody can install Firefox and configure it to be the default browser and they don't even need to configure it as the default to see what there is to see at T4T. So it's a non-issue, a molehill not a mountain.

As for the video player, why not throw "open source video players" (without quotes) into any search engine and see the bucket load of alternatives? Of course, you can stick with Google's alternative (is one of your big donors Google that you keep praising them every time you can?) or you can go for any of the alternatives. Or why not both?


Don't know what you're getting at. Where have I praised Google? I don't have any donors. You mean Christmas and birthday gifts? Nah, Google has never sent me as much as a card on my birthday.
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : openSUSE 12.1 + BOINC = failure (Message 42276)
Posted 27 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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You must mean Bill O'Reilly. Barack never started a war based on deliberate lies. He ended a war.
6) Message boards : Projects : Test4Theory (AKA LHC@home 2.0) NEWS (Message 42268)
Posted 27 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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The fact that IE is the most widely used browser means nothing more than the majority of people make stupid decisions sometimes. It doesn't mean everybody else should cater to them. The fact is IE always has been and always will be a piece of crap. Same applies to Windows. The T4T admins don't have time to turn their presentation into a Flashplayer demo when HTML 5 is free, easy and better and is now the standard. If Microsoft wants to make every new release of IE a legacy browser that's their own stupidity and if the lemmings want to eat their crap up with a spoon then let them but don't bash forward thinking people for not being compatible with yesteryear's garbage. If Microsoft had their way we would still be using edlin and paying $150 every year for a new version of edlin that does nothing more than the previous version of edlin and we would all be happy with 640KB RAM... "640 K should be enough for anybody"... B. Gates on one of his better days.

Very few people are going to stop running T4T or using BOINC just because 1 project's graphics need a modern browser to do a job that isn't essential to running the project or BOINC. That kind of thinking is pure FUD. If they do leave then who needs 'em? They'll never be bright enough to get the project running anyway. Most people will install Chrome or Firefox (very easy to do in spite of what you may think) and get on with life.
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : openSUSE 12.1 + BOINC = failure (Message 42267)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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The BOINC package in openSUSE repositories is built and maintained by people who have little to do with the actual BOINC project. If there is a problem with the package in repository then you best contact them. If you open /etc/init.d/boinc-client (the BOINC daemon startup script) you might find the names and email addresses of the openSUSE BOINC package maintainers in the comments near the top of the file. If not then perhaps someone in the openSUSE community can help you get in touch with those people. There is an off chance that someone reading these forums knows who to contact but no guarantees on that.

Installing from the Berkeley installer usually leads to the exact problem you are experiencing unless you run the current Ubuntu LTS release. Some users have solved the problem by creating a sym link named libnotify1 which points to libnotify4. If that works you will likely find there is another missing library. Probably you will find a total of 3 missing libs. Run ldd against the boincmgr binary to see exactly which libs boincmgr needs, which ones you have and which ones you don't have. If you can locate those libs and install them it will work. You can also install boincmgr from the BOINC 6.10.58 Berkeley installer and run it with a 6.12.x client, works fine. The 6.10.58 boincmgr seems to run on any distro.

The problem is that the BOINC developers don't have time to make the Berkeley installer compatible with every distro, there are just too many distros and too many releases within each distro. They make it compatible with the current Ubuntu LTS release and leave it up to the package maintainers to provide suitable packages for other releases and distros.
8) Message boards : Questions and problems : I have a problem with "BOINC Manager" (Message 42266)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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No problem. I could move your question to the to the Server problems forum but the server experts don't visit that forum very often. The best way for you to get help is to subscribe to the BOINC Projects email list for BOINC project administrators.
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : I have a problem with "BOINC Manager" (Message 42249)
Posted 26 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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Hi!

Questo è il mio indirizzo IP http://150.186.92.236/boinctest

I hope you can help me with this error

thanks
María


Maria, did you add http://150.186.92.236/boinctest to BOINC manager? That project is a test project. It does not issue tasks.

In BOINC manager click Advanced View -> Tools -> Add Project or Account Manager -> AddProject the select one of the projects from the list. ABC@home is a good project that always has tasks. It is a good project to begin to learn BOINC.

Google translation:

Maria, ha fatto si aggiunge http://150.186.92.236/boinctest di BOINC manager? Questo progetto è un progetto di test. E non emette compiti.

In BOINC Manager fare clic su Avanzate Vista -> Strumenti -> Progetto -> Aggiungi o Account Manager -> Add Project, quindi selezionare uno dei progetti dalla lista. ABC@home è un buon progetto che da sempre i compiti. Si tratta di un buon progetto per iniziare a imparare BOINC.
10) Message boards : Questions and problems : Task status changes from 'Running' to 'Waiting to run' automatically (Message 42214)
Posted 25 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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Ageless and Sekerob have a point... <ncpus>6</ncpus> on 4 cores is a bad idea and will lead to less total throughput, especially on Windows with it's inferior CPU scheduler. BUT if you enable HT on your i7 you have 8 virtual cores which might handle 6 tasks efficiently. I run 8 tasks on my i7 with HT enabled and I don't see a problem but I must admit I haven't actually compared total throughput with HT on vs. the thing you're doing. We can argue theory all we want only empirical proof actually means anything.
11) Message boards : Questions and problems : boinc "box" with DCLinux (Message 42172)
Posted 21 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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I've never used Dotsch/UX so I can't answer your question with confidence but I suspect there is a way to get it to use the flash drive for the BOINC data directory or to use a shared folder/drive over the LAN. Depending on your BIOS feature you might even be able to boot the laptops from an image on a shared disk on the LAN. I think the Dotsch/UX website has forums. You might get a faster/better response there.
12) Message boards : Questions and problems : A lil help plz from an ordinary guy ... (Message 42166)
Posted 21 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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Look, I get it that you dont WANNA believe anything can go wrong with yer baby but aint it jus possible that someone that someone that knowz a lil somethin abt this program mighta jus went "ROUGE" on ya?


We're not really talking about our baby here. Whatever you got, whether it's some perverted version of BOINC created by hackers, a virus or a bad version of BOINC from Sony, it didn't come from here. We don't know what you have or how it installed itself so we can't give you much advice about how to get rid of it. I will tell you one thing... I have been BOINCing for a long time and I have never heard of BOINC acting up the way you claim it has. I strongly suspect you have a virus too but it's just a suspicion since I can't get my hands on it and see for myself.
13) Message boards : Questions and problems : A lil help plz from an ordinary guy ... (Message 42155)
Posted 20 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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If Sony can't help you remove the software then try World Community Grid . It seems they were in cahoots with Sony on installing BOINC on your computer so they might help.

Has the warranty on that computer expired? If not then take it back to the place you bought it from and tell them it doesn't work and you either want your money back or you want it fixed. It's messed up due to something Sony put on it so I would think it's a manufacturing defect they are responsible for.

Another angle to try... if you paid for it with a credit card you might be able to get the credit card company to reverse the charge and get your money back. Most of the card companies really stick up for their customers that way. Tell the guys who sold it to you you're going to get the charge reversed and they'll be very motivated to make you happy.

If all else fails erase the disk and install Linux on it.
14) Message boards : Server programs : Boinc Server - Make Command - Mysql.h (Message 42142)
Posted 18 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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Perhaps mysql.h got deleted accidentally or renamed or moved to a different folder? Search your disk for mysgl.h or download the server source code package again. Maybe you have to install a mysql developer's package to get mysql.h.
15) Message boards : Questions and problems : (Waiting on GPU) Returns!...Repeatable on demand! (Message 42129)
Posted 18 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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No problem. I think Charlie said he wants the stdoutdae.txt not stderr.txt.
16) Message boards : Questions and problems : Task status changes from 'Running' to 'Waiting to run' automatically (Message 42128)
Posted 18 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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I don't know how much CPU the GPUGrid tasks take


I crunch GPUgrid and they recommend reserving 1 core just to service the GPU especially if you use SWAN_SYNC=0 and it's a fast GPU. A core just to service the CPU may seem like a waste but if it gets 10% more work out of a fast GPU that's a lot of additional work so the gain is well worth the loss.
17) Message boards : Questions and problems : (Waiting on GPU) Returns!...Repeatable on demand! (Message 42107)
Posted 16 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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...but no...

stderr.txt

...perhaps this file needs to be manually created and placed in this folder like the cc_config.xml had to be...?


No. The stderr.txt file is created by the project's science app in whatever slots directory the task has been assigned to. When the task finishes, the stderr.txt file is uploaded to the project server and kept as part of the task details on the project website. To view the task details and stderr.txt, go to the project website, click Your Account -> View Computers on this account. Locate the computer in question from the list of your computers, in the left-hand column click Tasks to see the list of tasks recently issued to that computer. In the left-hand column click "show names". Now from the Event Log you quoted earlier the task for which Charlie wants to see the stderr.txt is named "nbody-Plum_Embedded_5557114_1". Locate that name in the left-hand column and click it to see the details and the stderr.txt for that task. The text below the Stderr Output title is the stderr.txt plus a few extra lines.

Task details are not kept forever if you can't find nbody-Plum_Embedded_5557114_1 in the list it may already be deleted from the list. Or it may be on the next page so look for the "Next 20" link to get to the next page of the list.
18) Message boards : Questions and problems : quad core rules (Message 42103)
Posted 16 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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How fortunate for you. Perhaps he can help you with your need to spread FUD and your silly attempts to justify it.
19) Message boards : Questions and problems : quad core rules (Message 42101)
Posted 15 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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That wiki is not the official BOINC wiki and it hasn't been updated in years. You can attempt futile rationalizations all you want, the fact remains... "panic mode" doesn't exist in BOINC and use of the term spreads FUD.

I'll keep humming, you keep spreading FUD 'cuz it's what you do best.
20) Message boards : Questions and problems : quad core rules (Message 42099)
Posted 15 Jan 2012 by (banished: ID 2516)
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This can have really nasty side effects depending on the cache settings. Suppose you run a project who's shortest deadline is 8 days and you cache 4 days on the quad. Then with the proposed scheme of switching down to 2 cores when using computer [for instance according the <exclusive_app> config settings], there's instant panic mode kicking in.


There is no such thing as "panic mode". Using the word "panic" is a genuine disservice to readers as it makes the situation and BOINC's response to the situation sound far worse than it actually is. What you so erroneously call "panic mode" is referred to by BOINC and sentient life as "high priority mode". There is no "panic" involved and it is certainly not a "really nasty side effect". High priority mode is simply a change in scheduling by BOINC to avoid a possible nasty situation in which results don't return on time. High priority itself is not a "really nasty side effect".


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