Posts by thanar

21) Message boards : BOINC client : 6.1.10, OS X: Comments (Message 15868)
Posted 13 Mar 2008 by Profile thanar
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It definitely doesn't work. Even after completely uninstalling v5. However, I notice the following error messages under stderrgui.txt:

connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
launchctl: Couldn't stat("/Library/LaunchDaemons/edu.berkeley.boinc.plist"): No such file or directory
nothing found to load
launchctl start error: No such process
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused
connect: Connection refused


Any ideas?
22) Message boards : BOINC client : 6.1.10, OS X: Comments (Message 15836)
Posted 12 Mar 2008 by Profile thanar
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As soon as BM comes up, rainbow wheel appears and, a few seconds later, BM reports that it's unable to connect to the client. Manually connecting to localhost doesn't work either; MB waits indefinitely.

Reverted back to v.5, works fine from where I left it, will report back with proper investigation, once my cache flushes...

I didn't even uninstall v.5 FGS!!!
23) Message boards : BOINC client : seti can not download (Message 15438)
Posted 15 Feb 2008 by Profile thanar
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I am in china

I'm not trying to meddle in your political structure, but is it possible that your internet is restricted?


:-|
24) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15425)
Posted 14 Feb 2008 by Profile thanar
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5.10.42 continues to work just fine on my configuration... No network-related issues whatsoever. I guess the culprit has been found to be sync DNS lookups; at least for now... Looks like an FC to me...

Regarding Dennis' problem... 5.10.40 up have been OK for me, should be for you as well, unless your problem is a completely different story. Even on pre-5.10.40 installations, when I had manually entered my ISP's DNS servers, things were a lot better. Maybe you should try it out as well, although I don't remember how dial-up connections used to work...

As far as your comment goes I would like to add that this project, being dynamic and open, is excused regarding flaws on new versions; In the bottom line, there is always an older build for you to try if you are having problems with the new one. I've had issues on my widows machines a few months ago as well, that forced me to switch back to 5.9.x versions, but the eventually ceased to exist.
25) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15371)
Posted 12 Feb 2008 by Profile thanar
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After some extensive testing, I can almost definitely say that BM no longer freezes and the clients no longer exit unexpectedly while under network activity, since I installed 5.10.41 last night. I tried the same DNS configurations that used to create a couple of such problems in pre-.40 versions of BOINC.

One down, plenty to do then I guess... Keep up the great work everyone!
26) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15363)
Posted 11 Feb 2008 by Profile thanar
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Sorry Charlie, I've been away for a while... Just saw your post, so I will try 5.10.40 under such DNS settings, that push current versions to the limit. Will let you know as soon as I have more information.

--just noticed that 5.10.41 is out as well. I guess it comes with async DNS lookups, right?
27) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15137)
Posted 27 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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OK, I think I have some more information, extremely useful this time... Looks like it's a DNS-related issue, after all. Here's the new information:

All the above behavior happens as long as I have not set any custom DNS settings in my network preference. OS X uses my router as a DNS server, which should work OK and actually does on any network stuff except from BOINC CC. Here's the host -v output in this case (DNS Server: 192.168.0.1):
Thanars-MacBook:~ thanar$ host -v boinc.berkeley.edu
Trying "boinc.berkeley.edu"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49780
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;boinc.berkeley.edu.		IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
boinc.berkeley.edu.	3600	IN	CNAME	boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.
boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.	73281	IN	A	128.32.18.189

Received 76 bytes from 192.168.0.1#53 in 425 ms
Trying "boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 12023
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.		IN	AAAA

Received 40 bytes from 192.168.0.1#53 in 242 ms


If I add my service provider's DNS information in the network preferences, however, BM and BCC begin to behave correctly and -after a few network connection tries that give a 10-second lag- connections start working like a charm. I also noticed that the host-v output is different this time: 
Thanars-MacBook:~ thanar$ host -v boinc.berkeley.edu
Trying "boinc.berkeley.edu"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16488
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;boinc.berkeley.edu.		IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
boinc.berkeley.edu.	3508	IN	CNAME	boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.
boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.	73189	IN	A	128.32.18.189

Received 76 bytes from 213.5.17.21#53 in 630 ms
Trying "boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40248
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.		IN	AAAA

Received 40 bytes from 213.5.17.21#53 in 692 ms
Trying "boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55626
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.		IN	MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
boinc.SSL.berkeley.edu.	86400	IN	MX	5 setimail.SSL.berkeley.edu.

Received 65 bytes from 213.5.17.21#53 in 787 ms


Any ideas?
28) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15122)
Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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Asynchronous communication between manager, core client and project clients is always a good idea, although somehow complex, I guess.

However, I still believe it would be easier (and faster) to find and fix the bug that creates the issue. I mean, it's very rarely seen (for now at least), on specific systems and has to do with Leopard and Santa Rosa motherboard (at least from where I see it).

Incorporating full multi-threading / asynchronous I/Os would just make the whole project look like it works fine, but it won't be.
29) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15109)
Posted 25 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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Indeed, looks like the same to me... What puzzles me, though, is that I tried BM 5.4.x, which reportedly uses async DNS, and I noticed the exact same behavior. Additionally, I can find no apparent reason as to why this DNS-related freeze would kick-in just in Leopard on my NEW Macbook (Santa Rosa mb), since I have several Macs and XPs around and none has this issue. I also have a MacBook Pro with Leopard, no prob. at all!

The only thing I can think of is that there is a different system software component that handles such requests on a Santa Rosa - based intel Mac, that gives back to the core client different output that the previous ones used to. However, I still haven't been able to install BOINC on another Santa-Rosa Mac to see what will happen...

I guess I'll be waiting for a BOINC update or even a System Software update for what I know...
30) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Bug in 5.10.30--"Use At Most" CPU Option missing (Message 15062)
Posted 21 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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On the Mac client, the preferences window appears shorter than it should be every time BM is installed from scratch, which results on hiding of some options, such as this one. To be able to access all options, I have to stretch the preferences window downwards. Could this be the case as well on Win XP?
31) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15021)
Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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OK, first task finished. Looks like it's the core's fault after all. Without BM running, as soon as the client tried to start uploading the result, it froze and after a minute the upload started (and completed successfully). At the same time, both SETI workers exited with "zero" status, losing some of their work. The workers started again after the freeze, under different PIDs, which means the other two crashed. However, this happens with Rosetta workers as well. Actually, I take it this is normal, since the workers crash whenever they cannot communicate with the boinc core for some reason, for example when repairing the disk using Disk Utility, that some times hogs the whole system for a few minutes.

Part of stdoutdae.txt follows:
18-Jan-2008 11:42:40 [SETI@home] Computation for task 25ja07ab.29718.270449.8.6.234_0 finished
18-Jan-2008 11:42:41 [SETI@home] Starting 24fe07ad.2188.15205.4.6.242_1
18-Jan-2008 11:42:41 [SETI@home] Starting task 24fe07ad.2188.15205.4.6.242_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 528
18-Jan-2008 11:42:42 [SETI@home] Started upload of 25ja07ab.29718.270449.8.6.234_0_0
18-Jan-2008 11:43:44 [SETI@home] Task 24fe07ad.2188.15205.4.6.242_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
18-Jan-2008 11:43:44 [SETI@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
18-Jan-2008 11:43:44 [SETI@home] Restarting task 24fe07ad.2188.15205.4.6.242_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 528
18-Jan-2008 11:43:45 [SETI@home] Task 24fe07ad.2188.15205.4.6.236_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
18-Jan-2008 11:43:45 [SETI@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
18-Jan-2008 11:43:50 [SETI@home] Finished upload of 25ja07ab.29718.270449.8.6.234_0_0

32) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15018)
Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
Post:
BOINC Manager is only a graphical interface for the daemon, boinc.exe
...

Maybe this thread should move to BOINC core client then...
33) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15017)
Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
Post:
Some good news: I managed to set BOINC as a service using the latest .sh script (I read in the trac that there were some Leopard issues with the service script) and now boinc runs on its own. However, if I manually try network connections through BOINC manager, it's just the same as before. I will have to wait for a task to finish and report on its own to see if I'm gonna get a boinc CLIENT freeze as well.

I have another question. I usually set boinc processor % to 40% in order to keep my Mac in the 50s. I have noticed that, during the BOINC Manager freeze, the processor throttling doesn't work, i.e. it's working until BOINC Managers becomes responsive again at 0% or 100%, whichever happens to be the case at the time of the freeze. As I understand it, the throttling is applied by the client, not by BM. That said, I guess that it's the client that doesn't behave during the time BM seems frozen. On the bottom line stdoutdae is client's log, right? That's where I got this when I asked for project update through the Manager (notice the one minute freeze):
18-Jan-2008 09:19:53 [SETI@home] Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
18-Jan-2008 09:20:54 [SETI@home] Task 24fe07ad.2188.15205.4.6.236_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
18-Jan-2008 09:20:54 [SETI@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
18-Jan-2008 09:20:54 [SETI@home] Restarting task 24fe07ad.2188.15205.4.6.236_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 528
18-Jan-2008 09:20:55 [SETI@home] Task 25ja07ab.29718.270449.8.6.234_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file
18-Jan-2008 09:20:55 [SETI@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.
18-Jan-2008 09:20:59 [SETI@home] Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
34) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15015)
Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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I guess this is irrelevant, but I am seeing lots of this message 
1/18/08 9:14:00 AM kernel SetCryptoKey R: len 32, idx 2
while the BOINC Manager is in frozen state.
35) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 15014)
Posted 18 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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Version 5.10.29 does not seems to work any better. As I have reported, I tried all available for download BOINC versions, down to 5.4.9 and the results are exactly the same. I would like to pinpoint again that every FIRST attempt to a network connection fails, the second attempt in a short time period is successful however, almost every time. The third attempt usually fails and so on...

I am beginning to believe that the problem lies to the way BOINC Manager sends network requests to boinc client, but I am not sure; I would if I could install boinc as a servive, but that doesn't work either, seems like something's changed in Leopard, at least for my config.

I guess I will have to wait a little more for a newer version, at least to be able to test the service option...
36) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 14993)
Posted 17 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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I was just trying to find any version of BOINC that would not give me any problems, so I could get back online. I am aware that 6.1.x is in alpha status, so I wouldn't complain about any problems, as long as the one I am facing was resolved. That way, I could hope that a 5.x version that behaves well on my config would be around the corner...
37) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 14979)
Posted 17 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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Just tried BOINC version 6.1.0 from BOINC download directory with the same results. Frustrating!
38) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 14950)
Posted 16 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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I finally found another thread that the initial poster seems to be dealing with the same issue I am. Quite relieved I am not the One!
39) Message boards : BOINC client : Leopard (Message 14949)
Posted 16 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
Post:
I've been having a problem that looks the same to me as the issue the initial poster had. BOINC Manager hangs for exactly a minute every time there is BOINC-related network activity. I opened a thread discussing the issue here.

I have come to believe this has something to do with BOINC Manager - boinc core client interoperability when BM asks for Network connections.
40) Message boards : BOINC client : BOINC manager 5.10.32 up unresponsive on Macbook (Message 14931)
Posted 16 Jan 2008 by Profile thanar
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Ultimately, was this behavior before going to Leopard?

This behavior started on my new Santa Rosa MacBook which came with Leopard. I even re-installed Leopard from scratch with no different results. BOINC runs well on my MacBook Pro (build on Santa Rosa chip as well) with Leopard, however this Mac was upgraded to Leopard.


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