Posts by William

1) Message boards : Documentation : BOINC as social network (Message 14748)
Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Profile William
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I have been impressed with the level of such contact at Einstein@Home, even though I know how very busy those guys are.

As I have been in cosmology@home and TSP.
2) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Which file runs the experiment? (Message 14564)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile William
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I am attempting to run the Climate Change Experiment but cannot find the relavant forum.

Here
3) Message boards : Documentation : BOINC as social network (Message 14563)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile William
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Hi, first off -- Dr. Anderson has done more for BOINC & volunteer computing & this "grid" stuff than anybody else combined, so first I think you should cut him a lot of slack and chill a bit on some of the nasty-sounding posts.

Second, I think you're reading too much into the whole "social network" idea.

I think the idea is to keep BOINC relevant to the direction the Internet goes (is going). Every project already has a tight social network of dedicated volunteers and moderators, so it seems that we are just trying to open things up a bit in a safe way. I haven't seen anything "concrete" as far as evidence of how this will wreck BOINC, participants, etc; just a lot of conjecture and calling things "crap" (what, specifically, is "crap"?)

It's a shame that dreck out there such as MySpace & Facebook get millions of people, but basically on BOINC we are still in the same small community, doing good science, but not getting our name out there or people & schools etc interested in contributing for the long term.

as far as social networks being "crap" -- if it wasn't for the social network on climateprediction.net, the project would have folded long ago because me & Tolu & now Milo wouldn't have the time to recruit and keep moderators & participants happy & interested, and the scientists are few & far between & hide better than ghosts! ;-)

So I think the importance of the "social networking" side of things (which is something I've asked for help & guidance on in my BOINC papers over the years) has shown to be a major factor in project success. and the fact that scientists often don't have the time & personality for this sort of "outreach" makes it very useful if BOINC could have some "built in tools" to facilitate the "social networking!"

At the current rate (i.e. a "net loss" of participants every year); BOINC projects will keep losing users and eventually it won't be worth developing an app to hopefully get 1000 dedicated crunchers (you can spend the money on a nice cluster). I think the lesson is we either change with the times or just keep becoming a "fringe" project(s) that are increasingly irrelevant. As an example, millions of people saw the two CPDN documentaries yet the interest quickly tails off and we're back down to 40-50K people. So there must be a better way out there...


In highlighted order:

I don't think this is in question and his continuing efforts are appreciated by the vast majority.

Most of the "popular" projects do indeed have a "social network" already.

Long term commitment is the key word I believe as it seem as though even people that are participating already do not have the patience to allow programmers and scientists time to fix programming errors or hardware failures. As far as schools commitment goes, I believe teachers and administrators probably don't have the time, equipment or funds to run BOINC other than as an example in the classroom. Also you only have to look at worldwide marriage stats to realize "commitment" is a lost meaning.

This gets to the crux of the problem in a lot of projects, no input from the "principal" scientists. At Climate Prediction it was not that noticeable as long as Carl, Dave Frame & Tolu were there (Tolu still is I think) but the communication from the project almost stopped when Carl left. Only after complaints from the moderators did we find out major changes were coming and that only because of private e-mails were sent and then we couldn't pass the knowledge on to our "social network" because it hadn't been announced officially.
If some of the newer projects, cosmology@home, milkyway@home, TSP communications are indications of future "Scientist" participation, BOINC should start gaining participants.
4) Message boards : Documentation : BOINC as social network (Message 14544)
Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile William
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And here I was under the assumption BOINC was for science,,,,,,I don't do social networks and I don't think scientists are going to embrace this foolishness. I will push for stand alone apps on all projects I crunch for if this goes ahead.

Goal 1: increase the day-to-day involvement of volunteers. This will hopefully increase the retention rate. It will also increase traffic on project web sites, which will help those that do Google ads.

As if my DONATED time and machines aren't enough I have to see Google ads on project sites. (I HATE GOOGLE ADS)
5) Message boards : The Lounge : Fatwa on words containing ck (Message 13933)
Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile William
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I'm astonished at what they apparently DO allow. I recently shook my finger at a poster in the BoincStats shoutbox for one of these. But that was before I'd read the new rules.

aren't there only 2 moderators there who say what does and doesn't happen?

JM7 will be flattered.
Curious to see if buck, luck, lick (and numerous others)are disallowed as they end in "ck".
6) Message boards : The Lounge : Make a new word with... (Message 10343)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile William
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hypocrite

My last,,,,fitting.
7) Message boards : The Lounge : Make a new word with... (Message 10336)
Posted 19 May 2007 by Profile William
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For William, the next word needs at least 4 letters of the word given before and needs to be at least 6 letters long and needs to be a correct word in any language (we think English and Latin for now, say which different language you may think of/in). So your "odious" in reply to my "Nickelodeon" was correct. :-)

licorious isn't a correct word though.

Licorous



http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/51903/Smeared_Licorious
8) Message boards : The Lounge : Make a new word with... (Message 10333)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile William
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licorious
9) Message boards : The Lounge : Make a new word with... (Message 10331)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile William
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odious (the OP said any 4 letters, not any 4 different letters
)hope this is ok
10) Message boards : The Lounge : Make a new word with... (Message 10320)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile William
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philadelphia
11) Message boards : The Lounge : Make a new word with... (Message 10311)
Posted 18 May 2007 by Profile William
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telephone
12) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Windows Defender is stopping BOINC at startup (Message 10309)
Posted 17 May 2007 by Profile William
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As soon as Rom releases the new Windows compile, I'll check it out (should be later today).

I bought my new laptop yesterday and haven't done any tweaking to UAC (unless you count yelling at it because it's a pain) or the install in general.


^^^ :)
13) Message boards : The Lounge : Make a new word with... (Message 10283)
Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile William
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Centrifuge
14) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Windows Defender is stopping BOINC at startup (Message 10282)
Posted 16 May 2007 by Profile William
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Anyone got any other suggestions?

Don't install BOINC to the default directory.

When prompted during installation change the install directory to something that doesn't sit under C:Program Files


Sorry to say this Thyme but my boinc folder IS under C:/program files (one of the few) and I switched on UAC and checked if it started auto and it did, I wonder if the means of upgrading has anything to do with the startup permissions as I did an upgrade from XP Pro to Vista business (only way with my action pack) VS a clean reinstall ?

My sec log:

credentials
User Account Control: Detect application installations and prompt for elevation Enabled
User Account Control: Only elevate executables that are signed and validated Disabled
User Account Control: Only elevate UIAccess applications that are installed in secure locations Enabled
User Account Control: Run all administrators in Admin Approval Mode Disabled
User Account Control: Switch to the secure desktop when prompting for elevation Enabled
User Account Control: Virtualize file and registry write failures to per-user locations Enabled
15) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Windows Defender is stopping BOINC at startup (Message 10258)
Posted 15 May 2007 by Profile William
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I was sent a link to this thread because I am running Boinc with Defender both in Vista. I have recently updated Boinc to 5.8.16 and Boinc still auto starts just fine in Vista. I have UAC disabled,run as admin and have Boinc set as single with launch at boot enabled.
As far as Vista as an OS, I think its faster and more stable than XP, runs all my peripherals just fine, just had to find some of the new drivers but that was 2 mos ago and I think most mfg. have them now. I recommend doing an upgrade (ya ya ya upgrade)because Vista only stores your XP settings, wipes all the XP files then reinstalls Vista, sets up using your XP settings and everything should work ok.


Yes, as I noted earlier, I did not experience this problem until I migrated to 5.9.10, but thank you for the continued affirmation that this problem doesn't exist in 5.8.16. Have you tried version 5.9.10 as this is the version of client this problem seems to exist in for me?

I won't be able to get to my Vista machine until later tonight, but I will have to look into what 'User account control' really means. If I am correct in my current understanding of the term, Perhaps we will have to have the BOINC Manager installed into the all users folder, rather than the current user folder to avert this problem for users who have the default setting of having UAC on?

Also - are you running a service install? Is it 32-bit or 64-bit Vista?


The 5.8.16 is the latest STABLE release for windows 32bit so thats what I stay with as the cpdn models are too large to risk in beta testing.

I have Boinc set as single with launch at boot enabled. I don't run service anymore as I want the graphics so I can chk timesteps in cpdn.
I don't run UAC because I know what I'm doing and don't want MS making incorrect decisions on MY setup.
16) Message boards : BOINC client : What Happened to the Edit Post on this board - (Message 10245)
Posted 14 May 2007 by Profile William
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I run Vista and Firefox and see everything ok.

Including Edit :)
But nothing in IE7,,,,,interesting
17) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Diskspace problem (5.8.11) (Message 10225)
Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile William
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Free Disk Space is 16.18Gb
Used by BOINC is 592.21Mb
Used by other programs is 14.56Gb

Swap Space Allocated is 1438Mb

I changes Use at Most to 20% then forced an Update. Got the following messages

13/05/2007 12:22:11 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
13/05/2007 12:22:11 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Requesting 86400 seconds of new work
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Message from server: No work sent
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Message from server: (there was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated)
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Message from server: No disk space (YOU must free 436.2 MB before BOINC gets space). Review preferences for minimum disk free space allowed.
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.||General prefs: from climateprediction.net (last modified 2007-05-13 12:20:52)
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.||Host location: none
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.||General prefs: using your defaults
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.||Reading preferences override file
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Deferring communication for 1 hr 0 min 0 sec
13/05/2007 12:22:13 p.m.|climateprediction.net|Reason: requested by project

So I'm sitting here with SITI@Home refusing to communicate with the its servers
13/05/2007 12:21:39 p.m.|SETI@home|Requesting 86400 seconds of new work
13/05/2007 12:22:01 p.m.||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
13/05/2007 12:22:03 p.m.||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
13/05/2007 12:22:03 p.m.|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: couldn't connect to server
13/05/2007 12:22:03 p.m.|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 4 min 33 sec
and Climateprediction having a hissy-fit!!

Frustration rains!!

regards Peter

I set my pref to this regardless what size HD I have.

Disk and memory usage
Use at most 100 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.1 GB disk space free
Use at most 50% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 60 seconds
Use at most 75% of page file (swap space)
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8 and greater 50% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8 and greater 90% of memory when computer is idle

I have never had that message come up after changing to the above. :)
18) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Windows Defender is stopping BOINC at startup (Message 10222)
Posted 13 May 2007 by Profile William
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I was sent a link to this thread because I am running Boinc with Defender both in Vista. I have recently updated Boinc to 5.8.16 and Boinc still auto starts just fine in Vista. I have UAC disabled,run as admin and have Boinc set as single with launch at boot enabled.
As far as Vista as an OS, I think its faster and more stable than XP, runs all my peripherals just fine, just had to find some of the new drivers but that was 2 mos ago and I think most mfg. have them now. I recommend doing an upgrade (ya ya ya upgrade)because Vista only stores your XP settings, wipes all the XP files then reinstalls Vista, sets up using your XP settings and everything should work ok.




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