Posts by ravensview

1) Message boards : BOINC Manager : BOINC has stopped process other projects? (Message 8238)
Posted 15 Feb 2007 by ravensview
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I am running BOINC 5.8.11 WinXP I have several projects running - LHC is one. It's in transition, so rarely has work while they migrate servers. It backs itself off gradually from trying to get work in 7 sec, then in several minutes, then in several hours. Then repeats the cycle. However, if I run any other application (Einstein or Rosetta for example) then the LHC application stops looking for work completely. Even if it had thought it was a 1 minute interval to the next "poll" - no more requests - for hours. If I suspend the running applications LHC still doesn't look for work - I have to do a LHC update on the project screen to get it back into it's periodic polling.
Hope this is the right message thread, there are a lot. If not a question for here, any suggestions as to where this would fit? Is it a problem or a feature?
2) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6615)
Posted 24 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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I installed the 5.7.5 beta code on 5 machines this morning and so far it seems to be working well! I am not seeing the problems with work units stalling that I was seeing in 5.7.2-5.7.4. Thanks BOINC development team!



Is this with the throttling?

That's working for me now as well - fantatstic. I've been waiting a long time for this, as my main PC is a laptop.

The only other bug I've come across (and a few other testers as well) is that it doesn't want to seem to stay in snooze mode.


Same for me on Win ZP. Throttling now works fine, tried a few settings in 20-60% range. Just keeps on ticking, with both Einstein and Rosetta tasks. Rosetta used to also "hang" easily within a few minutes if graphics were enabled, had to end the BOINC program via task manager to get out of that. Now runs fine. I'll add that to the Rosetta discussions -Einstein site seems offline right now but I'll go there after also.
3) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6513)
Posted 18 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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I can tell you all with the throttling problem that I'm having the same problem.

Those "Computer work request" messages are spurious and weren't supposed to be turned on in the build.

5.7.4 should fix that small problem (I've downloaded it, just need to install it).


I've started a thread on the alpha test discussion list about this problem.


The list can be found here.


5.7.4 gives me the same problems as before -when throttling (with Einstein), runs a few minutes and then processing stops.

And I'm relatively new here, but if this is a Beta version, why would the issues go to an alpha version discussion area. Do the developers not look at this beta thread also?
4) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6502)
Posted 17 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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Have installed 5.7.3 and before I was using 5.6.5.

5.6.5 worked well since I installed it. Yesterday or two days ago it started to change the status of a task from active to suspended - cpu throttled every second. Then I installed 5.7.3 and the same happens.

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Are you running with the CPU at 100% or have you selected less?
5) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6466)
Posted 15 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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Have installed 5.7.3 but it identifies itself as 5.7.2.

Both 5.6.x as well as 5.7.x worked fine so far on my laptop even when running the CPU at 100% nearly 7/24 and using it for daily work.


100% is a piece of cake for my laptop, but it overheats. Try 50% and let me know how long it hangs in there, please.
Einstein is good for maybe 10-15 minutes, Rosetta only 5 mins maybe. Both seem to run at the longer times before freezing if I do nothing else on the PC.
Running the Rosetta graphics is entertaining, but after a few minutes application not only freezes, but when I restart, it is at 100% with nasty computation errors.
6) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6402)
Posted 12 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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Just saw this problem again with BOINC 5.72 running the FAAH application from WCG. Stopping and starting BOINC caused the application to start running again properly. Please let me know what diagnostic info would help to debug this.


I have 5.7.1
Tried changing write to disc to 999 sec, and to 600 sec, and Leave applications in memory to Yes - no discernable changes in symptoms. Usually suspend/resume gets goibg again for a few minutes. If I'm doing nothing else on pc lasts laniger, like 10-15 minutes, if I'm doing email/browsing seems to die in 3-4 minutes.

I too would like to know what specific parameter changes and data would help in debugging this - have had no interest back from developers so far.
7) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6323)
Posted 4 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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My apologies, you are correct about the switching. No excuse for my brain cramp. I should have rechecked before posting. I need to find some time to play with this feature.

No problem. I'm a little frustrated I guess by this problem - I ran Find-a-drug for ages on another PC, wanted to do the same with BOINC on my laptop but couldn't because of the 100% usage. I thought there was a fix - looks like not quite yet.
Mike in Ottawa
8) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6321)
Posted 4 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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BOINC 5.7.2 is out now in BETA. If you happen across specific problems, but aren't registered to the Alpha email list, leave your trouble here and we'll relay it to the devs.


I was a member ages ago - but 100% usage burned out my lap top fan.
I'm back, with manager 5.7.1 and rosetta@home project, was able to set to 60% OK.
However, application only runs for a few minutes, then stops for several minutes, I give up waiting and have to suspend/resume, or sometimes exit/restart Boinc manager. Application then picks up where it was, and runs for a few minutes again. My preferences have it set to run all the time (I think) but it seems to keep stopping on it's own.

While it ususally picks up where it left off, on occasion the completion of the application has suddenly gone from 1-2% up to 100%. Which of course sends as completed, up to BOINC/Rosetta land. I had this with 5.6.4 when I started a few days ago, upgrading to 5.7.1 didn't help. I'd rather not downgrade and use Threadmaster (sp?), I've a long history in QA and want get this resolved.
thanks
Mike


I checked for more clues - Task status is switching every secong from "Running" to "Suspended - CPU throttled"

Plus, following being written every second to the messages section.
"02/11/2006 6:43:00 PM|rosetta@home|Task BENCH_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_4ubpA_BARCODE_R97_filters_1328_906_0: no shared memory segment"
I'll stop BOINC for now.
Mike

The CPU limiting is designed to do exactly as you are seeing. 50% mean 30 sec active 50% suspended. The 75% means on for 45 sec. and suspended for 15 sec.

At 50% I do not see this running active for 30 seconds, then suspended for 30 seconds. Is this what your system shows? Mine switches EVERY second, initially from 100% to 1%, as observed using the Windows Task Manager, but after a minute or so gradually narrows the swings to betwen 55% and 45%. But then after another few minutes CPU usuage drops to 1%, and stays there - I've waited up to an hour. The task status indicator was still switching as I mentioned, but the task wasn't really running - as my laptop fan stopped cycling on and off. Plus -there was that repeating message error. Don't always se error messages when this happens though. I tried the eimstein@home project, same problems. Seems to vary from 4-20 minutes as tohow long this seems to run OK, so I don't know what other variables are involved. Doesn't seem to relate towheter I do other things on the computer or just leave it be. If you are a developer (or anyone else reading this is) please send me a note as to what specific information/tests you need so that I can help resolve this problem.
9) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6296)
Posted 2 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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BOINC 5.7.2 is out now in BETA. If you happen across specific problems, but aren't registered to the Alpha email list, leave your trouble here and we'll relay it to the devs.


I was a member ages ago - but 100% usage burned out my lap top fan.
I'm back, with manager 5.7.1 and rosetta@home project, was able to set to 60% OK.
However, application only runs for a few minutes, then stops for several minutes, I give up waiting and have to suspend/resume, or sometimes exit/restart Boinc manager. Application then picks up where it was, and runs for a few minutes again. My preferences have it set to run all the time (I think) but it seems to keep stopping on it's own.

While it ususally picks up where it left off, on occasion the completion of the application has suddenly gone from 1-2% up to 100%. Which of course sends as completed, up to BOINC/Rosetta land. I had this with 5.6.4 when I started a few days ago, upgrading to 5.7.1 didn't help. I'd rather not downgrade and use Threadmaster (sp?), I've a long history in QA and want get this resolved.
thanks
Mike


I checked for more clues - Task status is switching every secong from "Running" to "Suspended - CPU throttled"

Plus, following being written every second to the messages section.
"02/11/2006 6:43:00 PM|rosetta@home|Task BENCH_ABRELAX_SAVE_ALL_OUT_4ubpA_BARCODE_R97_filters_1328_906_0: no shared memory segment"
I'll stop BOINC for now.
Mike
10) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Beta BOINC 5.7.x/5.8.x discussion/problem report (Message 6295)
Posted 2 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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BOINC 5.7.2 is out now in BETA. If you happen across specific problems, but aren't registered to the Alpha email list, leave your trouble here and we'll relay it to the devs.


I was a member ages ago - but 100% usage burned out my lap top fan.
I'm back, with manager 5.7.1 and rosetta@home project, was able to set to 60% OK.
However, application only runs for a few minutes, then stops for several minutes, I give up waiting and have to suspend/resume, or sometimes exit/restart Boinc manager. Application then picks up where it was, and runs for a few minutes again. My preferences have it set to run all the time (I think) but it seems to keep stopping on it's own.

While it ususally picks up where it left off, on occasion the completion of the application has suddenly gone from 1-2% up to 100%. Which of course sends as completed, up to BOINC/Rosetta land. I had this with 5.6.4 when I started a few days ago, upgrading to 5.7.1 didn't help. I'd rather not downgrade and use Threadmaster (sp?), I've a long history in QA and want get this resolved.
thanks
Mike
11) Message boards : BOINC Manager : CPU Limiting? (Message 6294)
Posted 2 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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Or - is there a specific message thread discussing these BETA versions?

Here, I made one. :)

Excellent - I'll post there. thanks
12) Message boards : BOINC Manager : CPU Limiting? (Message 6274)
Posted 2 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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I was a member ages ago - but 100% usage burned out my lap top fan.
I'm back, with manager 5.6.5 and rosetta@home project, was able to set to 60% OK.
However, application only runs for a few minutes, then stops, I have to suspend/resume, or sometimes exit/restart Boinc manager. Application then picks up where it was, and runs for a few minutes again. My preferences have it set to run all the time (I think) but it seems to keep stopping on it's own.
Mike

BOINC's CPU throttle is pretty course. It can only work with 1 second blocks. Is it possible that this is causing what you are seeing?


?? No, it runs for a few minutes, then stops for several minutes. Not seconds. So - I restart it, same problem. While it ususally picks up where it left off, on occasion the completion of the application has suddenly gone from 1-2% up to 100%. Which of course sends as completed, up to BOINC/Rosetta land. Loaded BOINC 5.7.1, same good CPU throttling, same problems. I'd rather not downgrade and use Threadmaster (sp?) but maybe that's a better choice. Or - is there a specific message thread discussing these BETA versions?
thanks
Mike
13) Message boards : BOINC Manager : CPU Limiting? (Message 6265)
Posted 1 Nov 2006 by ravensview
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I was a member ages ago - but 100% usage burned out my lap top fan.
I'm back, with manager 5.6.5 and rosetta@home project, was able to set to 60% OK.
However, application only runs for a few minutes, then stops, I have to suspend/resume, or sometimes exit/restart Boinc manager. Application then picks up where it was, and runs for a few minutes again. My preferences have it set to run all the time (I think) but it seems to keep stopping on it's own.
Mike




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