Posts by Dark Angel

1) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 45283)
Posted 15 Aug 2012 by Dark Angel
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Just an update. I'm currently running 7.0.27 (I think, it's installed from the repositories for Ubuntu 12.04) and am still having the same issue with the wxwidgets version incompatibility.
2) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42371)
Posted 31 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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You definitely need to install two libraries:

libssl.so.1.0.0 => not found
libcrypto.so.1.0.0 => not found

this bit means BOINC needs them but they're not on your system.
Have a hunt through your package manager for them and install them.
3) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42062)
Posted 13 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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Ok, it looks good.
The only niggle I've got is from the output of ldd boinc

./boinc: /usr/lib64/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by ./boinc)
./boinc: /usr/lib64/libcurl.so.4: no version information available (required by ./boinc)
./boinc: /usr/lib64/libssl.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by ./boinc)

The required libs are there and the client runs, it's just sulking about the version information, so I'm not sure if it's a similar thing where my libs are newer than anticipated or something else. Since it works I'm not really worried about it.

As a suggestion, perhaps a page somewhere listing the lib versions these new dynamically linked BOINC versions are compiled against might be handy.
4) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42060)
Posted 13 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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Ok, after hunting through versions for some time, it turns out that my wxwidgets version was/is too NEW.
I grabbed v6.12.43 and thankfully it lists which version it's compiled against: 2.8.11
My system was running wxWidgets 2.8.12
So far it's running nicely, though I will try to provoke it a little more before declaring this "solved".
5) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42050)
Posted 13 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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Little update:

I've discovered that Audacity exhibits the same symptoms and that a few people have had it happen to them. Not many, but a few at least. This suggests that there's some difficulty/incompatibility with the gtk+ or wxwidgets version on my system.
It might help if I knew which versions 6.12.33 and onwards are compiled against. Perhaps someone could enlighten me?

I also discovered that the client doesn't like my versions of libcurl, libcrypto and libssl (using the ldd boinc command), but it seems to run happily enough just the same so I won't chase those for the moment.
6) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42027)
Posted 12 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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In all fairness I should mention it's good to see the benchmark on this system come up with this version. The discrepancy between the Linux and Windows benchmarks have been the cause of some consternation for a while now.

Forgot to mention, minimizing the window and then maximizing/restoring it doesn't make any difference.
7) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42026)
Posted 12 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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It happens every time I connect to a client, be it the local machine or another one on my network. I also just discovered that it will not upload tasks, either. It's particular to this machine though as the same version uploads fine on my other Linux boxes, which are all Ubuntu 10.04, though the manager won't run on them. ldd boincmgr on those machines rattles off a bunch of unmet dependencies on gt2k.

I noticed in another thread comments about using dynamic/static linking and how the devs have chosen to go dynamic. As far as I can see the only "problems" they are addressing this way are related to cosmetics, size on the file server and bandwidth consumption. Up to v6.10.58 could be assumed to "just work" so long as you had a reasonably sane system. Now ... not so much. Never had this happen before so rather disappointed.
I downgraded to 6.12.33 and the upload at least works though the menu bar is still just as flakey.
8) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42024)
Posted 12 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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Ok, all the dependencies come up as met for the client, command and manager binaries.

I just discovered that if I switch to Simple View and then back it seems to work fine. I'm guessing this is something to do with the Skinning feature somehow.
9) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42023)
Posted 12 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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Slackware is a little different to Ubuntu (or Debian) in that regard in that repositories are handled differently. There's not normally any automatic updating unless I choose to do it myself. Some updates I would have to compile myself if I thought they were necessary.
I'll use ldd and see what comes up. Might reveal something. Thanks.
10) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Problem with BOINC manager from v 6.12.n onwards (Message 42019)
Posted 11 Jan 2012 by Dark Angel
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I'm running Slackware 13.37 64bit (XFCE 4.4 desktop) and having been running BOINC v 6.10.58 very smoothly for some time. Recently I tried the latest "recommended" version but am having some odd problems that I cannot seem to find any answer to.
My normal update method is to shut down the existing client, extract the new one in a separate folder, copy the new binaries to the existing folder and then restart the client. This has worked fine for until now.
With the current recommended version (6.12.34) up to and including 7.0.6, the client itself seems to work fine but the manager has a display issue where all the controls across the top of the page (File Edit View etc) display ok until the manager connects to the client but then they all contract to the far left such that only half of the File option control is visible. The Controls open using their Alt+foo hotkeys but there is no way to access them with the cursor or see them.
Since I don't see this problem coming up in any searches I've done I am guessing that I am missing a required display library or have the wrong version of one for these newer manager versions. Would it be possible to get a list of dependencies and/or what libs etc the manager was compiled against?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
11) Message boards : Projects : PS3GRID/GPUGRID (Message 21582)
Posted 30 Nov 2008 by Dark Angel
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Actually they're designed to be run as crunching engines and as such have better cooling and more durable construction. Then there's the issue of error control.

I believe they are considerably more expensive than their pretty-picture-making counterparts, but not without some benefit when it comes to 100% 24/7 operation.
12) Message boards : Projects : PS3GRID/GPUGRID (Message 21567)
Posted 29 Nov 2008 by Dark Angel
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Just a question ...

Does the GPU/CUDA functionality in BOINC handle things like the nVidia Tesla setup? (3-4 Tesla cards, quad core CPU and RAM to burn) There's a link to GPUgrid in the CUDA application pages but I've been told (by an unverified source) that BOINC won't handle that many GPUs. I'd just like to clarify.
13) Message boards : Projects : BOINC Benchmark list (Message 21420)
Posted 20 Nov 2008 by Dark Angel
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Hi Dark Angel!

I have been working on something similar and ran into a number of problem that you have probably seen.

Questions:
Where did your stats come from?


Individual users who have responded either to this or in threads on several other forums.

Did you compile from any of the boincstats.com info?


No.

How do you know that a particular version of, for example, ubuntu is 64 bit and not 32 bit and running on a 64 bit platform?


I ask. The current version of my list includes the bit number for both operating system and BOINC client.

Do your statistics include gpugrid? That seems to skew the boinc points per day.


No. I have yet to get any stats from anybody running gpugrid.

For example, I have calculated the following average cpu statistics for gpugrid and abc but was unable to draw a proper conclusion as to the boinc points per day. (Sorry I do not know how to set font to fixed pitch to fit. Look here for better graphic of table http://swri.info/cpustats/5_stats_jys.png )


ABC
(Last 30 days) Machine OS Num CPUsec StdDev Claimed Granted Pending
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz Vista-64 318 5,672.5 4301.0 34.3 89.8 0
Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270 Linux 66 4,897.7 2389.9 15.7 47.4 1
Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 275 Vista-64 235 7,034.9 5525.8 29.4 90.8 0

GPUgrid
(Last 30 days) Machine OS Num CPUsec StdDev Claimed Granted Pending
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 @ 2.66GHz Vista-64 27 1,771.2 5332.1 3232.1 3232.1 0
Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 275 Vista-64 8 24,627.6 2826.8 3232.1 3232.1 0

Looking at the bottom two (the gpu info) there were 27 work units processed in an average of 1.7k seconds while the other system took an average of 24k seconds per work unit. However, the only reason the time was higher was because I assigned dedicated a cpu to gpugrid. The other system I did not bother to dedicate a cpu so gpugrid shared the cpu with some other project. Since the GPU did all the work, the CPU time is virtually meaningless.

A snap shot of the program that calculated the staistics (C# win form) is at
http://swri.info/cpustats/5_pgm.png and
http://swri.info/cpustats can be used to extract info from the boincstats.com server (from a snapshot taken Nov 10)

I am an aspx programmer and the above http://swri.info/cpustats is my first attempt at php. I am looking at moving my personal web page to GoDaddy as they do aspx and my 5_pgm win form can be easily ported to aspx (I hope)

Anyway, if you or anyone has any comments or can make a suggestions, please let me know.


I just build this as a spreadsheet. The benchmarks are from direct user reports, not my own estimates, and the credit estimate is based on info I have found here and elsewhere and assumes 24 hours of actual crunching time (not wall clock time) and reports CLAIMED credit as opposed to what the quorum on various project might grant. Since I have yet to come across anybody that runs gpugrid I have not included anything specific to that. I also do not try and track or estimate the exact time taken to complete units as I don't think that can accurately be done (too much variation in usage patterns by users).

I'm not sure, but I think we're actually trying to do something a little different from each other. I wish you well, this has proven to be a difficult and often thankless undertaking.

Good luck

Mick
(DA)
14) Message boards : Projects : BOINC Benchmark list (Message 21060)
Posted 1 Nov 2008 by Dark Angel
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After seeing every list of BOINC benchmarks I've found start and die shortly after I've taken it on myself to produce something that people might find useful.

I've been tabulating systems, listing CPU (make, type, rated speed, operating speed, number of cores), Operating system (Win/Linux etc, name/distribution, version number, type (desktop or sever), 32/64 bit) and BOINC version. The spreadsheet also returns the expected points CLAIM (not return as nobody can predict the various quorums) in both BOINC points per day (assuming the machine runs and returns for the full 24hrs) and for WCG (until they convert to straight BOINC points).

If anyone wants to download the spreadsheet (in .xls format) they can get it HERE

If anybody wants to contribute their scores (with ALL the other information, and please be honest. After all, this is for posterity.) please email them to me at iron_sparky at yahoo dot co dot uk and I'll include them for you.
15) Message boards : BOINC client : boinc_6.3.10_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (Message 20682)
Posted 6 Oct 2008 by Dark Angel
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Firstly just a quick thanks to the dev team. Thanks for all the hard work you folk put in, it's much appreciated.

I just downloaded this version to give it a whirl and see how it runs. It did some funny things and being as it's a dev version I figured I should say what I saw.

I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 64bit, fully updated.
AMD Opteron 185 (running at 2.86GHz, yes it's got a 10% overclock) with 2GB or DDR-566 RAM and an XFX 7600GT vid card.
(I don't know what else might be relevant so ask if need be.)

When attempting to connect to other clients on my network with the 6.3.10 manager it would bring up the "Connect to project" dialogue. If I cancelled that it would drop me to the "Messages" tab rather than the one I had selected before trying to connect. I was attempting to connect to v 6.2.15 clients.

Thanks again for the efforts, I hope this helps someone.
16) Message boards : Questions and problems : New Ubuntu user needs help (Message 18868)
Posted 27 Jul 2008 by Dark Angel
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I'm curious to know if it's necessary to put a link to gui_rpc_auth.cfg in the home directory in order to get manager to connect to client without typing the password, like on Fedora.


No it's not. It works fine as is. :)
17) Message boards : Questions and problems : Stolen Team. (Message 18564)
Posted 17 Jul 2008 by Dark Angel
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For the most part, yes. They are all ending up named "Space Family", though there seems to be more than one team ID in a "holding pattern" at least at Rosetta. My suspicion is that this Barbar <expletive> has others "parked" in case he loses his current team and/or is banned from forming a new one.
This operation appears to be very wide ranging, deliberate and malicious.
18) Message boards : Questions and problems : Stolen Team. (Message 18439)
Posted 15 Jul 2008 by Dark Angel
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This guy really is a "piece of work". I'll assume this has been called for more than once already, but I suggest Barbar be banned from any and all BOINC projects and this parasitic team of his as well. His antics are causing nothing but anger and frustration on every project he touches, and it seems pretty obvious to me that he has no regard at all for what we as a community are trying to achieve. ie the betterment of all mankind through sharing computer resources.
19) Message boards : Questions and problems : Stolen Team. (Message 18342)
Posted 10 Jul 2008 by Dark Angel
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Control of the team has been handed back to the original, and once again active, founder.

As for Barbar ... I wish him every misfortune. The DC world will be better off without his sort.
20) Message boards : Questions and problems : Stolen Team. (Message 18309)
Posted 9 Jul 2008 by Dark Angel
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Here's the Space Family team on CPDN Beta1 (that's the original beta project, not the project we're crunching for now):

http://climateapps1.oucs.ox.ac.uk/beta/team_display.php?teamid=26

Two members with credit, Barbar and jvitovec, but as far as I can see neither ever downloaded a model. So I'm wondering where their credits came from. On CPDN projects the server never deletes your old tasks.

Maybe they had really crunched some and detached their host(s) later? Barbar really DID crunch much, on CPDN too. (Just wanted to have more.) According to Boinc Synergy's links to ClimatePrediction.Net BOINC Team Statistics for Space Family, the team is really theirs, I assume renamed from their former Boinc Czech Team's one. Accordingly the BBC Climate Change Experiment BOINC Team Statistics for Space Family.

climateapps1's jvitovec seems to match climateapps2's Scotie.
climateapps1's Barbar seems to match climateapps2's Barbar and seasonal attribution's Barbar.

Last but not least, their own forum posts (from the times they were reaching 30 mil. credits) suggest, that they might have tried their tricks on CPDN teams too (well, this thread is mostly devoted to final teams renaming and synchronization on stats sites).

Peter


Even if hosts are detached they remain in the system otherwise it breaks the relations in the database. IOW, a work unit cannot exist as "completed" if there's no agent to have done it, so the agent ID, and associated info, are permanent. If he'd ever done anything, it would be searchable down to precisely which units he'd done, how long they took, what credit he received/claimed, time and date work was sent/due/received ... the whole bit.


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