Posts by Richard Haselgrove

1) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC RPC Support? (Message 99655)
Posted 7 hours ago by Richard Haselgrove
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If you can't find it any other way, it's certainly in the "(Unix command-line version)" on the download_all page.
2) Message boards : BOINC Manager : BOINC Indicator for (Ubuntu) Linux? (Message 99648)
Posted 12 hours ago by Richard Haselgrove
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The system tray icon for BOINC relates specifically to the Manager component, not to BOINC itself. The scientific calculations can continue whether or not the Manager is active.

The Linux platform developers have decided that for their purposes, the tray icon introduces complications that make it too hard to maintain and run BOINC on their platform. See Disabled Manager system tray icon for Linux builds for further information.
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC RPC Support? (Message 99628)
Posted 1 day ago by Richard Haselgrove
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It should be in the same folder/directory as the other main BOINC components - bonc(.exe) and boincmgr(.exe)

On my Linux machines, that's /usr/bin
On my Windows machines, that's D:\BOINC (personal choice in the installer) - the default is C:\Program Files\BOINC

I don't have a Mac to check.
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : Max amount of host limit? (Message 99616)
Posted 3 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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Every project that I know of allows you (and provides tools for you to use) to inspect the outcome and final status of each task completed by each computer.

If the task is 'successful' (completes normally) and 'valid' (sufficiently accurate, when compared to other work), it will be awarded credit. If not, not.
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : BOINC RPC Support? (Message 99589)
Posted 4 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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boinccmd still exists, and is documented here.

The full RPC specification is documented at https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/GuiRpcProtocol
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : why does boinc use all my bandwidth (100% upload and download) while the manager is running even if everything's suspended and there's nothing in transfers? (Message 99579)
Posted 5 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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There's only one other possibility I can think of: is either of our complainants running tasks which require a Virtual Machine?

If the VM is communicating directly with its project base (as I know LHC does), this would show up in a network traffic scan but not in BOINC.

Could either of you supply any precise detail about the projects, tasks and applications involved, and the measuring tools used to observe the bandwidth usage?
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : old hosts don't show up as active? (Message 99561)
Posted 6 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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We don't know, because we're not BOINCstats.

Willy runs his own, third-party, independent, site. Ask on his own message board - he does monitor that (he replied and fixed a problem which I reported to him at the beginning of this month).
8) Message boards : The Lounge : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 99510)
Posted 9 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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But I'd have had to book it weeks in advance!
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : why does boinc use all my bandwidth (100% upload and download) while the manager is running even if everything's suspended and there's nothing in transfers? (Message 99508)
Posted 9 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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No, BOINC doesn't use public, external, bandwidth - except when you see transfers in process.

How are you measuring the traffic? If you're measuring it at the fone connection, then you have some other problem - I'd check for malware.

But if you're using internal monitoring on the host computer, be aware that the Client and the Manager are in constant internal communication over TCP/IP 'loopback' address 127.0.0.1, port 31416. That traffic is innocuous - it doesn't use any external (paid-for) bandwidth.
10) Message boards : The Lounge : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 99507)
Posted 9 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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It's not me, it's the accommodation. I don't think you can just walk up to a barn in the corner of a field and try the door, any more.

They've all been converted into bijou bunkhouses...
11) Message boards : The Lounge : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 99504)
Posted 9 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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Yes, 1976. I had a holiday booked (overland to Morocco), but the tour company rang up at the last minute and bumped me back a week. Didn't feel like working the extra days, so - literally - caught the service bus at the end of the road. Took me 65 miles from Bradford, via Hawes, to Keld at the head of Wensleydale.

Then I spent the spare week walking back - eating in pubs, sleeping in unlocked barns on piles of hay (winter fodder in storage). It worked then, in that summer, but I don't think I'd try it again today.
12) Message boards : Projects : Coronavirus projects? (Message 99468)
Posted 10 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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BOINC held one of its conference calls yesterday, primarily as an information exchange between different projects. We heard an extended description of the work that Is being done by Rosetta@Home, and how the volunteers fit into the picture.

All the resources are available in a GoogleDrive folder: BOINC Projects Call 2020_06_25

The audio recording is in 'Recording_BOINC_Projects_Call_2020_06_25.mp3'

The Rosetta segment starts with an introduction at 35:15 - refer to slides in 'robetta_boinc.pptx'

The description of the actual work you're participating in starts at 37:40 (combatting the viral infection by preventing the viral spike protein binding to cell receptors), and a second part devoted to combatting the body's cytokine storm response (the problem which causes the severe late-stage illness in some patients) starts at 45:35. Refer to 'Baker lab Boinc call.pptx' for slides on both these sections.

The Rosetta segment ends at 57:10 - well worth 22 minutes of your time.
13) Message boards : The Lounge : The Seti is Slumbering Cafe (Message 99467)
Posted 10 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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But the SSP is still stuck on groundhog day.
14) Message boards : Questions and problems : New tasks not loading automatically (Message 99374)
Posted 15 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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6/21/2020 8:45:18 AM | | Config: fetch minimal work
would have the effect you describe in the thread title.

That could have been set either in the optional cc_config.xml file,

<fetch_minimal_work>0|1</fetch_minimal_work>
Fetch one job per device (see --fetch_minimal_work).
(from Client Configuration - Options)

or on the command line when the BOINC client first starts up:

    --fetch_minimal_work           fetch only 1 job per device
15) Message boards : Questions and problems : SUNET - first impressions (Message 99341)
Posted 19 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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No, I couldn't get that far. The first thing you're presented with is their own login screen (which is more like signing in to a phone/tablet app), and if you haven't got an account already, you click the 'signup' link - that takes you out to a browser to validate your email. With the results I described.

I've set the test machine back to normal BOINC crunching for now, but I'll keep trying to setup an account, and if I get one, I'll try their app again.

They have some advice for what to do if the email doesn't arrive: I get the emails, copy and paste the code, and all I get is this:

16) Message boards : Questions and problems : SUNET - first impressions (Message 99333)
Posted 19 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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Well David claims everything is fixed now the servers have their certs updated, so that old client shouldn't have a problem with an outdated ca-bundle.crt - but for that all my Android devices still refuse to contact any of the projects with the updated certs.
The SUNET install tree contains a ca-bundle.crt dated 10 February 2020, and it contains the AddTrust External Root certificate (though I haven't been able to check the expiry date yet *). The whole bundle is dated:

## Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Fri Jan 26 21:30:21 2018 GMT

* Yup - it's the 30 May 2020 expired one.

And it also has v1.0.2a of the OpenSSL libraries. We have v1.0.2s.
17) Message boards : News : SUNET client released (Message 99331)
Posted 19 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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Discussions and observations in SUNET - first impressions, please.
18) Message boards : Questions and problems : SUNET - first impressions (Message 99330)
Posted 19 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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Well, I thought I'd give it a whirl.

First, the installer is not digitally signed, and comes from an 'unknown publisher' - install at your own risk. I'm using a sacrificial copy of Windows on a spare, test, partition.

Second, this is not an upgrade from BOINC - it's a whole new application. If you have BOINC installed already, both programs could continue to run. Unless someone can decode this error message:


I'll keep prodding, and keep you posted.

Edit - not going to get very far with this. You need to fill in a (sacrifical!) email address, ask for a verification code, collect it from email, paste it in the signup form, and create the account. The timeout counter runs down from 30 seconds when you request the verification code: I got it pasted within, I think, 22 seconds at the fourth attempt, but it still rejected it as 'expired or timed out'.

Verification emails come from 'noreply@boinc.io', which, with the error message above, confirm that BOINC Planet, boinc.io, and sunet.cc are all the same organisation.

Edit 2: It won't go away! Every time I tell it to shut down, it immediately restarts!

Look what I found, buried a long way down the installation folder (C:\SUNET\resources\app.asar.unpacked\build\boinc_core\)



Note the date and version number.

Last one before I run out of edit time:


It installs this to autorun (without asking permission)
19) Message boards : Questions and problems : How to detach a project ? (Message 99329)
Posted 19 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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The button is greyed out if you attached to the project via an Account Manager (BAM!, Science United, or similar).

Go back to the Account Manager website, and use the tools there to remove it.
20) Message boards : BOINC client : Amd OCL2 and OCL1.2 drivers won't co-exist on Boinc Manager but seems to work elsewhere (Message 99288)
Posted 22 days ago by Richard Haselgrove
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Since FAH and Boinc are very similar, both based on Gromacs (I believe), Boinc may have a similar limitation.
"GROMACS is a versatile package to perform molecular dynamics, i.e. simulate the Newtonian equations of motion for systems with hundreds to millions of particles."

So no, BOINC isn't based on Gromacs. One or more of the projects that use BOINC may do so, but we don't.


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