Posts by MNSwiftOne

1) Message boards : Questions and problems : MS VC++ 'Runtime Error!' from BOINC (Message 41093)
Posted 9 Nov 2011 by Profile MNSwiftOne
Post:
The pop-up shown is of concern to you guys I think - a design error in one of the downloaded tasks???
Scenario:
After some time has passed, and my sytem self-locks (via 10-minute screen saver w/blank screen) - On login or even mouse-movement just prior to screen saver start, I am presented this pop-up:



I.E. I just walked away and came back before the screen saver starts (less than 10 minutes), and saw another pop-up stating the same. These show only for a few seconds then disappear with no event log or BOINC log entries.
My guess - one of the tasks I am running has a design flaw 'incorrectly stopping the runtime' as these seem to occur after system is idle, boinc begins/beginning/running?/, then mouse movement or login stops it.

I am not sure which task is causing this - all show 'Suspended - computer in use' - none are 'waiting' or other status'.
My Task list shows the following tasks(X# = # of instances shown): Rosetta X2, Milkyway X2, World Community X3, climateprediction.net X3. Strange, no Seti shown.

System runs 24/7, and temp-monitoring tools showing load temp when BOINC is running (when set to 'Run Always' to test) are far from max.

I have been having random reboots lately, though I'm thinking they might be defrag utility related as there is one event listed stating 'boot time scan completed' immediately after a blue-screen reported event - so perhaps the defrag util caused these - but these pop-ups are not at the same time, and I have seen them at least 4 times over 3+ days now.

My system: Windows 7 on C:, Intel i7 860 on Intel DP55WB Mb, 8GB DDR3, 12+GB free on D: drive where BOINC is running from (BOINC Disk page reports 'free, available to BOINC 6.15GB'). System is set to 'Run based on preferences'(thus idle time only, all cpus and near 98%cpu I think?), SuspendGPU (since the task / benchmark suggests mine is not fast enough for the tasks to use it - so I set to Suspend GPU), and network activity always available (DSL via T100 ethernet).

2) Message boards : Questions and problems : Terrifying update to boinc_6.12.33_windows_x86_64 (Message 39008)
Posted 17 Jul 2011 by Profile MNSwiftOne
Post:
Hi - just thought I'd share my experience with you - and tell the developers there may be a bug...

I opened boinc_6.12.26_windows_x86_64 I think, saw the 'News' post about an update available with a Download link... so gave it a try.
The link downloaded and launched boinc_6.12.33_windows_x86_64 successfully.
The installation had some dire moments though:
During the install process - both monitors went BLACK.
No keyboard response - no CTRL-Alt-Del reply... Solid HD light...
Now - some people might panic here and reboot which could cause problems... I waited.
Eventually I was presented a Windows Login page - the one with the users listed to click and login...
AND - my Login Icon was MISSING...

First thought - someone at BOINC put a trojan / virus in the release which just wiped my identity from my system. So - I clicked Shutdown... system shut down, waited a few seconds and powered on again.
System loaded - my login was back - logged in - but BOINC would not 'connect'.
Manually exiting it and restarting it showed a panel stating 'insufficient privilages - contact your adminstrator and something about the BOINC username needing privilages.
I Uninstalled boinc_6.12.33_windows_x86_64, waited a few seconds... and reinstalled it again. Everything is back to normal now :)

Quite the scare - your developers really need to test this scenario and answer why my screen went black and login ID appeared removed from system. Possible related to my CTRL-ALT-DEL press during install??? I did not press enter... and there definitely appears a problem with running via News link - related to installer level - like BOINC installed under a guest authorization? and thus failed to run on my Admin account?..

So - word of advice to anyone here - do not use the link in the NEWS to update BOINC... and if you do - just uninstall and reinstalls to reset permissions on the components.

Todd
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : Cannot Upgrade or Clean Install To Newer BOINC (Message 37380)
Posted 3 Apr 2011 by Profile MNSwiftOne
Post:
Hi, I had the same error. It seems I installed some version prior to .58, then upgraded it to .58 and the installer failed to update the 'source' location. Result was the installer for .60 attempted to uninstall .58, but was looking at the Downloaded Programs\{key for prior build}\boinc.msi file.

Attempting to reinstall - would still probably fail as it was .58 that failed to update the location - so even putting .58 back in would fail - would have to go back to the earlier build whose number I forgot...

My solution was to
1) regedt32 my entire registry for 'BOINC' and delete every left-column entry found having BOINC in the right side, including some tricky ones where BOINC was in the path of a key used by other prods (only deleted the right data-row with the BOINC in its path) so make sure not to delete the main key for those - they referenced 'Windows 7' and something else in the same left-column host key.
All GUID left-column keys that referenced any BOINC part were deleted.
(Hey BOINC, why does it install 'locale' entries for all the foreign language paths - should only install for detected language - there were one for each locale BOINC sub-folder in the Program Files\BOINC dir - unnecessary reg keys I'd think??)

2) Backed up my DATA dir which is on a different drive (just in case, did not need it).

3) I then deleted the Program Files(x86)\BOINC folder content (to the recycle bin just in case).

4) And installed build boinc_6.10.60_windows_x86_64 (updated to the 64-bit version) with no problems, making sure to pick the same Data directory. It somehow found all my current stuff and is running again with all projects intact (thought I'd have trouble after deleting path locations in the registry).

If you're worried (and just in case anyway) - might want to make a System Restore checkpoint prior to messing around.
4) Message boards : Web interfaces : Login problems: (Message 4994)
Posted 13 Jul 2006 by Profile MNSwiftOne
Post:
I started with Seti@home in July 2000 - yes, 6 years ago, and it has been a few years since I was active.
I started with ClimatePrediction as a co-worker showed it to me, and it looked a lot cooler than Seti, so I thought I'd sign up.

Problem 1: Signing up for Climate would not take my Seti email address to login/begin.

Seeing that Boinc supports multiple projects - I thought I would continue with Seti.

Problem 2: Took a good day and finally got a recover password email and I was back in Seti - and it remembered me - yea!

Problem 3: Wanted to post on the Boinc Message boards here -
Well - this is why I write this post:
This site would not recognize my email / password for Seti or Climate sign-ins. I had to register fresh - and although I have actually been a member since 2000 - it says I am a member since today...

Is there a way - or is Boinc suppose to use one login and password set for all projects, and the message board? - so I can be the same ID on all?

Thanks,
Todd
Seti@home since July 2000
Climateprediction.net since June 2006
5) Message boards : BOINC Manager : Zone Alarm and BOINC/Project testing (Message 4993)
Posted 13 Jul 2006 by Profile MNSwiftOne
Post:
Hello,
I wanted to verify problems with Boinc - not necessarily related to Zone Alarm, but demonstrated by Zone Alarm actions, and ISP actions.

Problem: Boinc (like MS Outlook and IE) appears to mark the internet connection 'off' inside itself if the internet connection is disconnected.
- and HANG (no window, right-click taskbar only says 'Close', no restore, minimize, etc. Task Manager states 'not responding).

Scenarios to reproduce:
1) In Zone Alarm, or via the systray icon - pick 'Stop All Internet Activity'. Doing this for 10-20 seconds, has twice this week Hung Boinc. (the time it takes me to view my junk mail, I lock off the net so image tracking in SPAM fails - so SPAM sender cannot verify my email address by me viewing images in emails).
2) My ISP is through a router/firewall (this my PC sees 192.168.x.x) to a wireless Bridge to a major network. This network requires logging in via a http://login.php page via port 80/SSL445? web-page (one of those pages where they embed the SSL, page gets no lock, but viewing page properties says it is 128-bit secured) - attempting to view a http anywhere redirects to this login page without warning (sometimes interrupting SSL sessions - oh well, I am willing to accept a few interruptions for $16/month at 1.2 to 2MB/s).

Result:
Both scenarios can hang Boinc as described in the Problem above.

Fix (guess):
? Add a better retry timeout thread in the program - that perhaps sends a simple ping or if you want to keep http only: a non-commital http request (one that can time-out). A suggestion would be to load the http://boinc.berkeley.edu page looking at the source for some <!-- hidden commented keyword --> to verify indeed the page expected loaded (since requesting any page when I am logged off results in the login page - no 'page not found' errors occur - which may be why IE, Outlook 2002, and now Boinc hang.

Also - I do not know if Boinc tries as soon as system logs in - i.e. Zone Alarm instantly tries to update it's virus/spyware definition tables as soon as system boots - but 99% of the time, I have not logged in online yet and they fail - if Boinc does try immediately, this could cause problems also...

And for those interested: My Bridge IP is 192.168.0.1, also shown as the XP 'gateway' IP - it is in the Internet zone, all pc's on my 'this side of the router/firewall' are accessable in the range added to ZA 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.20 set as Trusted. Since I do get hits on 192.168.0.1 from the 'local' wireless (pinged, queried, and who knows what else from my ISP address) I keep it in the internet zone.
127.0.0.1 was added to the ZA list by ZA to support IIS / .NET local pages, in the trusted zone (required for developers as ZA failed to support 127.0.0.1 for quite a while causing us software developers many problems).

Good luck,
Todd




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