Posts by Berbe

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1) Message boards : Questions and problems : All projects end up not requesting more work anymore
Message 114737
Posted 26 Oct 2024 by Berbe 		Do you happen to know how that translates to the 
boinccmd
CLI client configuration?
2) Message boards : Questions and problems : All projects end up not requesting more work anymore
Message 114734
Posted 26 Oct 2024 by Berbe 		How do you "weight" aka prioritise projects over others?
3) Message boards : Questions and problems : All projects end up not requesting more work anymore
Message 114577
Posted 25 Sep 2024 by Berbe 		Well, I wanted to avoid micromanaging all the projects and let that account manager dispatch the processing over all those projects, allowing them to manage allocation of all users properly… but it seems I am believing in something non-existent.

In the end I have not been contributing any processing power for almost two weeks now…
4) Message boards : Questions and problems : All projects end up not requesting more work anymore
Message 114574
Posted 25 Sep 2024 by Berbe 		There are various settings of different kinds.

Computer processing settings
Those do not seem not be related to the way the account manager works.

Science areas settings
Projects are categorised in "areas", which you can prefer or exclude; the default settings (I'm using) is "as needed": no impact on processing there I guess.

Projects settings
There also is an ability to exclude projects individually, which be default is off, enabling all projects from ScienceUnited to be selected by the account manager.
I used this mechanism in the past on some projects starting to show the problem I describe in my initial post, trying to mitigate that behaviour.

It worked for a time, forcing the client to request other projects, but it seems this problem is global, as every project end up falling into that "not requesting more work" state.
Hence, this is not the solution, but having spent a lot of time digging in all panels of the ScienceUnited website, I have not so far found see any setting driving this behaviour.
5) Message boards : Questions and problems : All projects end up not requesting more work anymore
Message 114572
Posted 25 Sep 2024 by Berbe 		I already asked the question on the ScienceUnited boards without any answer so far.
Since the problem might be related to the inner workings of BOINC, I am replicating it here.

Client version: 8.0.2

I am using BOINC configured with a ScienceUnited account manager:
Account manager info:
   Name: Science United
   URL: https://scienceunited.org/

All the projects come from it:
attached via Account Manager: yes

However, over time, all the projects end up showing this state:
don't request more work: yes


In the end, I am not requesting any more tasks, hence not producing any work anymore. A client restart does not seem to yield any change.
I have no idea what to change nor where for that behaviour to stop.
6) Message boards : Questions and problems : Node underused / Difficulties to fetch work
Message 114389
Posted 3 Aug 2024 by Berbe 		Thanks for all this!
7) Message boards : Questions and problems : Node underused / Difficulties to fetch work
Message 114380
Posted 1 Aug 2024 by Berbe 		Alright: thanks for the heads up!

I was trusting the account manager to manage this globally, but it seems they have not taken action.
I will then manage the projects I subscribe to on their website.

Where did you get all this information about the death/lack of work of those projects?

Thanks again!
8) Message boards : Questions and problems : Node underused / Difficulties to fetch work
Message 114377
Posted 1 Aug 2024 by Berbe 		I am using the Science United Account Manager.

Is there no way to improve this through that? I though local settings overrides could help, but the configuration directives are a tad overwhelming.
9) Message boards : Questions and problems : Node underused / Difficulties to fetch work
Message 114374
Posted 1 Aug 2024 by Berbe 		My node seems to have difficulties fetching work. I especially have difficulties understanding backoffs, while the node itself seems to be rarely active.
To tyr to undertsand what is (not) happening, I activated most of the debug features.
Here is a status example:
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.loda-lang.org/loda/] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [odlk] [prio] -1.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.119154 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [BOINC Central] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [DENIS@home] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [RNA World] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [Universe@Home] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 1.000000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.loda-lang.org/loda/] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [odlk] [prio] -4.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.119154 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [BOINC Central] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [DENIS@home] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [RNA World] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [Universe@Home] [prio] -0.000000 rsf 0.250000 rt 0.000000 rs 0.119154
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [---] [work_fetch] ------- start work fetch state -------
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [---] [work_fetch] target work buffer: 8640.00 + 43200.00 sec
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [---] [work_fetch] --- project states ---
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.loda-lang.org/loda/] [work_fetch] REC 0.000 prio -0.000 can't request work: master URL fetch pending (28205.93 sec)
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/] [work_fetch] REC 0.000 prio -0.000 can't request work: master URL fetch pending (85854.46 sec)
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] [work_fetch] REC 0.000 prio -0.000 can't request work: scheduler RPC backoff (2821.11 sec)
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [odlk] [work_fetch] REC 0.119 prio -4.631 can request work
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [BOINC Central] [work_fetch] REC 0.000 prio -0.000 can request work
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [DENIS@home] [work_fetch] REC 0.000 prio -0.000 can't request work: "no new tasks" requested via Manager
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [RNA World] [work_fetch] REC 0.000 prio -0.000 can request work
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [Universe@Home] [work_fetch] REC 0.000 prio -0.000 can request work
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [---] [work_fetch] --- state for CPU ---
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [---] [work_fetch] shortfall 1922.13 nidle 0.00 saturated 49917.87 busy 0.00
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.loda-lang.org/loda/] [work_fetch] share 0.000
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/] [work_fetch] share 0.000
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] [work_fetch] share 0.000
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [odlk] [work_fetch] share 1.000
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [BOINC Central] [work_fetch] share 0.000 project is backed off  (resource backoff: 36816.11, inc 38400.00)
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [DENIS@home] [work_fetch] share 0.000 project is backed off  (resource backoff: 25350.93, inc 38400.00)
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [RNA World] [work_fetch] share 0.000 project is backed off  (resource backoff: 12488.99, inc 19200.00)
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [Universe@Home] [work_fetch] share 0.000 project is backed off  (resource backoff: 23807.83, inc 38400.00)
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [---] [work_fetch] ------- end work fetch state -------
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.loda-lang.org/loda/] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.loda-lang.org/loda/] skip: master URL fetch pending
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/] skip: master URL fetch pending
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/] skip: scheduler RPC backoff
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [BOINC Central] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [BOINC Central] can't fetch CPU: project is backed off
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [DENIS@home] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [DENIS@home] skip: "no new tasks" requested via Manager
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [RNA World] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [RNA World] can't fetch CPU: project is backed off
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [Universe@Home] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [Universe@Home] can't fetch CPU: project is backed off
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [odlk] choose_project: scanning
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [odlk] can fetch CPU
boinc-1  | 01-Aug-2024 18:30:17 [---] [work_fetch] No project chosen for work fetch

How do I optimise settings so that my node is more efficiently used?

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