XP shutdown problems with BOINC 5.4.9

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BobP

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Message 4692 - Posted: 11 Jun 2006, 11:29:19 UTC

After I installed 5.4.9, whenever I shutdown my XP SP2 system, BOINC refuses to close and has to be ended manually. I have waited for several minutes to no avail. When I remove it and reinstall 5.2.13, there are no such problems.

Also, with 5.4.9 during normal operation, the screensaver comes up and bounces around the screen saying "BOINC screensaver is shutting down", rather than showing some client's graphics (SETI or Einstein). (For info, my McAfee firewall has granted access to the three BOINC components requesting it.)

Because of these two problems, I have gone back to 5.2.13. Can anyone shed light on these?

Thanks, Bob
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Message 4869 - Posted: 30 Jun 2006, 1:40:25 UTC

I have the exact same problem!
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Michael Gmirkin

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Message 4968 - Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 20:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 4692.  

After I installed 5.4.9, whenever I shutdown my XP SP2 system, BOINC refuses to close and has to be ended manually. I have waited for several minutes to no avail. When I remove it and reinstall 5.2.13, there are no such problems.

Also, with 5.4.9 during normal operation, the screensaver comes up and bounces around the screen saying "BOINC screensaver is shutting down", rather than showing some client's graphics (SETI or Einstein). (For info, my McAfee firewall has granted access to the three BOINC components requesting it.)

Because of these two problems, I have gone back to 5.2.13. Can anyone shed light on these?

Thanks, Bob


Hmm, I have a similarthough less severe version of the problem. I've run it on XP Home & XP Pro SP2, generally without issue. Though sometimes when shutting down it will pop up a window saying ostensibly that BOINC refuses to shut down or failed to shut down or failed to respond to the command to shut down. But then after like 2-3 seconds the message goes away and shutdown proceeds normally...

So, it seems to me like maybe it's waiting to get to a safe check-point before exiting? Mine never really seems to have a problem shutting down though if I let it sit therefor a second it seems to "catch up" and shut down.

What other stuff do yuo have running in the background / system tray? Sometimes if too much junk is running it takes a while for Windows to close it all. Try closing all task tray items other than BOINC before clicking shut down and see if you still encounter the problem. If not, try exiting half of them and leaving the other half open, if the problem comes back it's maybe one of the other system tray items conflicting? If not, try exiting the other half and see if the problem persists. Basically just if exiting everything other than BOINC causes it to shut down properly, try to narrow down what it was that might have been causing a conflict or slow shutdown. OF course you might have other stuff running in the background that doesn't show up in the tray either, since some programs let you run them with the icons hidden.

I just know that when I worked tech support, it was usually best to close everything before trying anything, just to make sure nothign else was interfering. Antivirus, pop-up blockers, and quicktime always seemeed to do naughty things. So did IE toolbars and extensions... Can't tell you the number oftimes tht exiting everything and disabling extensions and toolbars cleared up people's problems. ;o]
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ClaudeM

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Message 16124 - Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 21:02:16 UTC - in response to Message 4968.  
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I get the same "Screensaver is shutting down" message, but I have no problems shutting down XP.

It also never allows my monitor to shut down to conserve power, it keeps "resetting" the monitor (like it would to change the resolution) and "waking up" back to Windows on its own. As a screen saver, it's very poor.

(Wow, this issue existed almost two years ago and it's still around? I've got the latest version of Boinc)
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Message 16130 - Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 10:01:53 UTC
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Firstly I'd recommend not running the screensaver (change screensaver to 'blank', and then try using the 'show graphics' instead when you want to see how projects are doing).

Secondly I'd suggest right-clicking on the Boinc icon and selecting 'exit' just prior to shutting down XP. While Vista is the most common source of problems with Boinc at shutdown, a small number of XP installations seem to also have trouble at shutdown.
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ClaudeM

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Message 16143 - Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 18:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 16130.  

Firstly I'd recommend not running the screensaver (change screensaver to 'blank', and then try using the 'show graphics' instead when you want to see how projects are doing).


Thank you! That did the trick.

I'd grown so used to having it run as a screensaver that I didn't realize it could run independently from it.
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Message 16146 - Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 21:36:19 UTC - in response to Message 16131.  
Last modified: 30 Mar 2008, 21:37:09 UTC

5.10.45 has not given me any shutddown issues at allnot on XP or Vista, nor previous versions and started off with the recommended 5.4.13 on XP 2 years ago.

As for Vista here's the message: It, 5.10.35 and up is NOT causing any shutdown issues nor startup damage to work units for me and many. Go and sayeth it forth.


5.10.45 doesn't stop 0x40001001 errors from CPDN tasks, and no doubt there are others from other projects (as far as I know with the current design it'll only be able to ignore errors which the Boinc core client knows about). If there are errors caused by killing the science app which boinc doesn't know about then a Vista shutdown will still be terminal.

I did suggest ignoring *all* errors after a shutdown request is received, but I don't think that's how it works currently.
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