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Franco Borgo

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Message 52239 - Posted: 31 Jan 2014, 23:39:08 UTC

(unnecessary into :-)
I have let all my computer do all sort of distributed calculation all the way back when I use to login by modem :-)

I am planning to buy a new MacPro Just to do it a little bit faster
I know, I am a bit crazy, but not 100% because before I buy, I would like some information

Could anybody please direct me to where I could find info on things like

1- Will both card will be recognize,
2- Are OpenCL driver already exist for those card on Mac

As far as project name thatSupport GPU (openCL 1.2) can be use on Mac.
From this page
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing

it would seem only two projects support GPU on Mac with AMD card

Projects with ATI/AMD applications:
Collatz Conjecture (Windows, Windows 64bit, Linux 64bit)
Einstein (Linux, Windows on Intel; Mac OS X under active development)

Any help would be very much appreciated

Thank you

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Message 52261 - Posted: 1 Feb 2014, 12:32:59 UTC - in response to Message 52239.  

Seti Beta has a OpenCL ATI GPU Astropulse app for the Mac, unfortunately after the initial feedback, there has been a total lack of feedback since, to the point that the release thread is locked.

There is a Mac port of the Seti v7 x41zc Cuda app in Alpha testing, again the feedback is quite scarce, to the point that Eric is yet to add to Seti Beta (as a Stock app).

Seti Beta applications

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Message 52283 - Posted: 2 Feb 2014, 5:28:56 UTC

Both GPUs are capable of OpenCL computing, though I don't know if you would be able to use both simultaneously. I would assume not, for power reasons.
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Message 52348 - Posted: 5 Feb 2014, 3:13:04 UTC - in response to Message 52239.  

from this page http://www.primegrid.com/gpu_list.php
I found this:

MAC
(1.000) AMD Radeon HD - FirePro D700 Compute Engine
(0.836) ATI Radeon HD 7950 Compute Engine
(0.392) ATI Radeon HD 5770

Which is kind of disappointing

from what I understand
AMD FirePro W7000 is the D300 on Mac
AMD FirePro W8000 is the D500 on Mac
AMD FirePro W9000 is the D700 on Mac

P.S. I did not get an alert about the 2 new posts
I trying to find where i can change that in pref :-)
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Message 52349 - Posted: 5 Feb 2014, 3:20:37 UTC - in response to Message 52283.  
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I do find strange that they put two of those card and that I am still trying to find a power supply somewhere in there. :-)



but I guess they both should be able to work at the same time.
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Message 52396 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 2:22:00 UTC
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Oh, I was thinking MacBOOK Pro... Those use two different GPU types; one that's very energy efficient for long battery life, and one for performance. The OS switches between them based on demand.

Yes, the Mac Pro should do just fine working on both cards. It's a high-end workstation, not a cheap consumer-grade PC. As far as the components go, iFixIt has a nice teardown video: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac+Pro+Late+2013+Teardown/20778

If you wanted to buy another one of those and send them to me, I wouldn't object :P
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Message 52410 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 18:45:20 UTC - in response to Message 52396.  

If you wanted to buy another one of those and send them to me, I wouldn't object :P


:-)
I will put you in the list in case I win the lottery :-)

I know I could built a PC for a lot cheaper and more powerful.
I just want a Mac, and also I like the fact that it can do this with minimum noise.

A few years ago, I bought my nephew a PC dual core2duo with a nice GPU card doing about 50000 points a day on Boinc, my old octo-core core2duo Mac Pro was doing about 5000. I did not really had a good graphic card.

The only problem with the PC was the fan going crazy. So after a few months, my nephew would shut it down at night.

I feel like the new Mac Pro has a very efficient Fan.

Thank you both for answering,

Now I am writing in VMWare fusion's forum to see if their product can access openCL directly.
Could be a solution to get more Boinc projet using the GPU on Mac

I will tell you if I get answer.

As far as Parallel is concerned, it does not seem to work.

Would be nice to have a wait to run both OS at the same level. I think i can be done on some PC with a special kernel... Maybe i just dreamt it :-)
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Message 52447 - Posted: 8 Feb 2014, 20:28:19 UTC - in response to Message 52410.  

Bad News

is seems that currently, An app must be program to use both card...

I would need to check if GCD support dual card configuration.
Maybe OpenCL use GCD.

New Mac Pros support AMD's CrossFire GPU teaming, but currently only within Windows

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/02/07/new-mac-pros-support-amds-crossfire-gpu-teaming-but-only-within-windows
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Message 52450 - Posted: 9 Feb 2014, 0:46:47 UTC

You should be able to run one task on each of the GPUs.
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Message 52491 - Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 14:38:44 UTC - in response to Message 52450.  

Oh, i never though of that.
Can we choose which GPU a task is run onto ?
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Message 52504 - Posted: 12 Feb 2014, 2:17:25 UTC - in response to Message 52491.  

Oh, i never though of that.
Can we choose which GPU a task is run onto ?

You can't choose which GPU a particular task runs on, but you can go to each project website and deselect Use Nvidia GPU, Use AMD GPU or Use Intel GPU so Boinc doesn't ask for work for that particular GPU.

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Message 52506 - Posted: 12 Feb 2014, 4:21:49 UTC

Because they're identical GPUs, no; if they were different manufacturers you could do what Claggy suggested. If you want to split your GPU resources between two projects, you can do that with the project resource share. It might not work out to be exact, but BOINC is supposed to work out how much work it asks for from each project to come out to a total resembling something like the resource share.
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Message 53393 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 22:02:00 UTC - in response to Message 52239.  

it would seem only two projects support GPU on Mac with AMD card
Milkyway has profited hugely from AMD's GCN-GPU's.

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/apps.php
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