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Message 52146 - Posted: 26 Jan 2014, 20:48:32 UTC

I everyone,
i use boinc since 2009, but i always run wcg project. Average i make 800/900 points per day.

Some days ago, i decided to switch to rosetta@home, but i see that i made 250/300
points per day.

So, i'm asking: why this differnce? did i made some mistakes?

thanks and sorry for my bad english
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Message 52149 - Posted: 26 Jan 2014, 22:14:06 UTC - in response to Message 52146.  

It's up to the projects how much credit they want to give out per task. Despite numerous attempts to get the BOINC credit to be the same all over the BOINC realm, and to automate this, the fact that BOINC is open source plays havoc in this. Any project administrator can decide to disable the automated credit and add his own.

So, there are projects which pay a lot, there are projects that pay normal, there are projects that pay very little. At the end of the day it doesn't matter much, as you can't do anything with the BOINC credit. You can't put them in the bank, you can't pay with them in the store, you can't exchange them for bitcoins.
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Message 52157 - Posted: 27 Jan 2014, 11:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 52149.  

thx for the reply.

uhm...really i can almost exchange it with bitcoins...:D

anyways, i suppose that rosetta@home it's one that pay very little...
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Message 52158 - Posted: 27 Jan 2014, 14:34:03 UTC

Perhaps you already can ...
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Message 52160 - Posted: 27 Jan 2014, 15:38:47 UTC

yes, i mean gridcoin too :)

i used the word "almost" because then, i have to exchange grc with btc, and there isn't an exchange yet so is not so easy.

P.S: it's so bad that gridcoin doesn't support WCG :(
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Message 52163 - Posted: 27 Jan 2014, 16:20:13 UTC - in response to Message 52158.  
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Perhaps you already can ...

No, you get paid in Gridcoins, not in BOINC credit. So the BOINC credit is still without value. Very slow webpage at that 'project', and I use quotes around the word, as the isn't exactly much information on that site. Unless you want to spend hours to read through all the PDF files.
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Message 52168 - Posted: 27 Jan 2014, 19:04:04 UTC - in response to Message 52163.  

Perhaps you already can ...

No, you get paid in Gridcoins, not in BOINC credit. So the BOINC credit is still without value. Very slow webpage at that 'project', and I use quotes around the word, as the isn't exactly much information on that site. Unless you want to spend hours to read through all the PDF files.


more boinc credit you do, more gridcoin you have.
I think we can say that boinc credit have a value...
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Message 52175 - Posted: 27 Jan 2014, 21:00:57 UTC - in response to Message 52168.  

I think we can say that boinc credit have a value...

So? What is the value of one BOINC credit then?

I asked David (Anderson) about this and he answered me:
A while back I approached the Bitcoin people with the idea of them granting Bitcoins for BOINC credit (instead of the power-wasting computation they currently do). They didn't want to do this because it's contrary to Bitcoin's
fully-distributed philosophy and architecture.

Nowhere on the Gridcoin pages does it say anything about them using BOINC credit, or that you can exchange your credit that you got from another project, for Gridcoins.

Thus, as far as I can see BOINC credit has no intrinsic value. And I deeply hope it stays that way, as else we really have renewed credit wars where people will barge onto unsuspecting projects and demand that they raise their prices (or better said, in this case prizes), or else...
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Message 52183 - Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 7:32:52 UTC
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Not sure where those additional coins are supposed to come from for that project; they have to come from some benefactor somewhere. I'm assuming that the use is simply to have BOINC running on your CPU and/or GPU while you have ASIC/FPGA devices bit-mining.

It would be nice to have someone who's actively participating (and has received Bitcoins) in said project weigh-in with some first hand experiences. It sounds too good to be true.
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Message 52187 - Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 9:12:24 UTC - in response to Message 52183.  
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I am trying to get it to work, have followed the (bad) instructions to the letter, but have found so far that:
a) Rocket science is easier.
b) BOINC setup without any documentation is easier.
c) The GUI Miner is missing no matter what you try.
d) The writer of the 'documentation' doesn't know how to use 'its'.
e) It runs on a full core, and sometimes even more. Not a problem for me at this time, as I only run Seti & Einstein on my GPU, and that only when I feel like it.
f) I wonder if it even works with these two projects. The Wallet speaks of Malariacontrol.net, RNA World, Rosetta@Home, Docking@Home and Milkyway@Home.
g) Funny, clicking on any of the projects in the Wallet opens up Internet Explorer, which goes to the web site. We ignore the default setting of Pale Moon then, ey?

I'll leave it running for a bit here. Am waiting for a phone call anyway.

Edit: Don't leave it running in the background while gaming. It'll interfere severely with load times and cause graphical lag.
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Message 52215 - Posted: 29 Jan 2014, 13:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 52187.  
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I am trying to get it to work, have followed the (bad) instructions to the letter, but have found so far that:
a) Rocket science is easier.
b) BOINC setup without any documentation is easier.
c) The GUI Miner is missing no matter what you try.
d) The writer of the 'documentation' doesn't know how to use 'its'.
e) It runs on a full core, and sometimes even more. Not a problem for me at this time, as I only run Seti & Einstein on my GPU, and that only when I feel like it.
f) I wonder if it even works with these two projects. The Wallet speaks of Malariacontrol.net, RNA World, Rosetta@Home, Docking@Home and Milkyway@Home.
g) Funny, clicking on any of the projects in the Wallet opens up Internet Explorer, which goes to the web site. We ignore the default setting of Pale Moon then, ey?

I'll leave it running for a bit here. Am waiting for a phone call anyway.

Edit: Don't leave it running in the background while gaming. It'll interfere severely with load times and cause graphical lag.


uhm...are you talking about gridcoin? if so, and you have some question, i will glady help :D
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Message 52225 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 16:12:30 UTC - in response to Message 52215.  

No thanks. This stuff isn't staying on my system for too long. I was just testing it, but my attention span has waned already.
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Message 52231 - Posted: 30 Jan 2014, 20:53:44 UTC
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And does Gridcoin play well with what Ripple Labs is doing with their XRP? It could be an easy way to double dip.... Ripple Labs is the largest team at WCG dwarfing most teams contributions and last I looked was doubling IBM's team. The big downside to Ripple Labs is that you have to be part of their team to get the XRP. (XRP is their cryptocurrency)

And did Gridcoin actually have a fully working miner when Ripple Labs launched theirs? Or did they beat you to the first BOINC points to cryptocurrency title. I know the approach is different, but that is up for debate.
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