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Message 58654 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 17:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 58636.  

Now there's an idea. Although this will probably add unnecessary white lines again, just as [pre/], [code/], [list/] and [quote/] do. But yeah, it's something to think about.

Do you mean the generous margin the blocks have or something else? Anyway, I would expect that such things can be fixed.
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Message 58660 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 18:32:58 UTC - in response to Message 58654.  
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See the change log thread for examples aplenty. All the [list/] blocks have white spaces before and after, even with all the codes written on one line. However you cannot start a listing from directly behind a [list/] start container, as then the * will just be a * instead of a ball. So you must start the listing on the next line after the start container. Which adds two or more lines of white.

Example given with the first list of the thread:
[b]Preliminary Change Log 7.0.65 --> 7.1.1 (more or less complete now):[/b][list]
* client: major overhaul of work-fetch logic based on suggestions by Jacob Klein. The new policy is roughly as follows:
[/list]

Available installers:

This is how it looks in code, but this is what it does when executed:
Preliminary Change Log 7.0.65 --> 7.1.1 (more or less complete now):

  • client: major overhaul of work-fetch logic based on suggestions by Jacob Klein. The new policy is roughly as follows:



Available installers:

That's what, 4? added white lines!

Same thing with the quote containers.

[quote]This is It![/quote]
What?

This will do:
This is It!

What?

But
[quote]This is It![/quote]What?

This will do:
This is It!
What?

See that the first adds a white line between the quote and the What? And that the second one doesn't?
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Message 58661 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 19:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 58660.  

Ok, we are speaking of the same thing. I never realized [list] is that bad, of course I have never written a list before...
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Message 58669 - Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 23:55:39 UTC - in response to Message 58661.  

The other thing I'm thinking of is that if such a [html/] container can be made, that I can use it seamlessly in a sentence. Now when you add any such container, it'll put the code, pre, quote, etc. in and then starts a new line. Or starts with a new line, then puts the contained subject in before adding another new line. I'll need the behaviour of the stress mark containers [b/], [i/], [u/] and perhaps [k/].

Ah, and it be only available to administrators, as they're the only ones who can execute HTML. Although I don't know why that is... Any ideas?
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Message 58679 - Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 19:44:07 UTC - in response to Message 58669.  

Ah, and it be only available to administrators, as they're the only ones who can execute HTML. Although I don't know why that is... Any ideas?

Try <script>alert('ha ha');</script> .

Or if that's not bad enough: <script>while(1){alert('ha ha');}</script> .

Before trying the latter, make sure to save any half composed messages or emails or whatever you have or use a browser that allows stopping scripts.

I'm not much of an evil hacker but I think you could write a script that posts new messages or changes crunching settings for any logged in user.
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Message 59274 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015, 10:57:17 UTC
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Small bug in 7.4.36: Jobs running at high priority are listed in the status column of the BOINC manager only as <running> but not as <running, high priority> like in older versions. I've verified that these jobs are still running with high priority after update 7.0.64 -> 7.4.36 (BoincTasks)
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Message 59276 - Posted: 3 Jan 2015, 11:23:09 UTC - in response to Message 59274.  

Small bug in 7.4.36: Jobs running at high priority are listed in the status column of the BOINC manager only as <running> but not as <running, high priority> like in older versions. I've verified that these jobs are still running with high priority after update 7.0.64 -> 7.4.36 (BoincTasks)

It's not a Bug, DA removed mention of High priority, no-one managed to convince him of alternate wording to use, It's been like that since Boinc 7.4.24:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/gitweb/?p=boinc-v2.git;a=commit;h=bca7c006deae20cc31be20fc37396bb4c0cfafc2

Manager: omit ", high priority" from task status

This makes it sound like BOINC is running the job at high OS priority.


He at least put mention of 'High prioity' when you set 'cpu_sched_debug', that's in 7.4.28 and later:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/gitweb/?p=boinc-v2.git;a=commit;h=28f18bea30d819290ba647286fdec01763c53180

client: indicate "high-priority" tasks in event log (if cpu_sched_debug set)


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Message 60915 - Posted: 13 Mar 2015, 8:53:20 UTC
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Rom Walton wrote:
Howdy Folks,

We have a new build to test. This should be a short test cycle as most of the changes are related to updated localization files. The updated localization files were pulled from the BOINC 7.4 project on Pootle(BTS) before it was shutdown.

We'll release this build to the public if it contains no showstoppers and behaves just like 7.4.36.

We want to begin testing 7.5/7.6 next week. It'll contain a bunch of changes with the menu and the advanced preference dialog. We will be revamping the simple preferences dialog as well.

So please report your test results to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/alpha as quickly as possible.

Report any issues to this email list (boinc_alpha@ssl.berkeley.edu).

Thanks in advance.

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Change Log:
* Updated localization files
* Screensaver fix for when the client is suspended
* When using a proxy, fallback to HTTP 1.0 if the proxy returns a 417
status code.
* Fixed Windows 10 detection (kernel version change)

Change Log 7.4.36 -> 7.4.42
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Message 61215 - Posted: 26 Mar 2015, 7:32:48 UTC
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Just installed 7.4.42 on my windows 10 pc and im getting Postponed:VM Hypervisor failed to enter an online state in a timely fashion. in Atlas@home while my windows 8.1 pc is running fine
edit: after it got another 4 wu`s and ran for 5 mins 1 postponed and the other 3 are running ok after 25mins still, so i have set it to run 3, could it be a memory problem with win10?
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Message 61403 - Posted: 5 Apr 2015, 3:55:48 UTC

For those wondering what's up with those BOINC 7.5.0's on the DL page, it's not got any new things in the client, it's merely a test run for us (David, Rom, Charlie, Jacob and me) for switching the menus and menu contents around.

Although those of you who have downloaded it should check out and test the new exclusive applications editor for the GPU. Or just wait until an official test 7.5 surfaces. :)
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Message 61405 - Posted: 5 Apr 2015, 6:24:49 UTC

I didn't see 7.5.0 on the download page anymore, but I managed to download somekind of Win x64 version by guessing the file name :) It installed smoothly, but it doesn't seem to start (using Win 7 64bit). I run the installer as administrator, as usually. Boinc manager doesn't show up on the screen. When I click boincmgr Windows Task Manager shows a new process is trying to start, but that process then disappeares immediately :( I tried some compatibility modes but that didn't help.
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Message 61457 - Posted: 7 Apr 2015, 19:39:05 UTC

Rom Walton wrote:
Howdy Folks,

We are experimenting with a new menu arrangement as well as unifying the preference names and descriptions across the project website and the client software. SETI@Home has been updated to include the new preference design.

What do you all think?

For the localizers: This build should be able to give you context to all the string changes of late.

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Message 61643 - Posted: 16 Apr 2015, 18:06:01 UTC - in response to Message 61405.  

I didn't see 7.5.0 on the download page anymore, but I managed to download somekind of Win x64 version by guessing the file name :) It installed smoothly, but it doesn't seem to start (using Win 7 64bit). I run the installer as administrator, as usually. Boinc manager doesn't show up on the screen. When I click boincmgr Windows Task Manager shows a new process is trying to start, but that process then disappeares immediately :( I tried some compatibility modes but that didn't help.


Same here on Win7 32 bit
Boinc client cannot start.
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Message 62090 - Posted: 8 May 2015, 21:27:13 UTC

Rom Walton wrote:
I just wanted to give you all a heads up.

We are planning on a short release cycle for BOINC 7.6. We hope to complete the test process by the end of May. BOINC 7.6 should be released as the public release in June.

That means we need to have translations up-to-date with BOINC-Manager.pot, BOINC-Client.pot, BOINC-Setup.pot, and BOINC-Web.pot for a fully localized release.

We do not anticipate making any more massive string changes before release.

Thanks in advance for all your efforts.

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Message 62902 - Posted: 3 Jul 2015, 20:25:10 UTC

Best for me to post it here, I think.

David Anderson wrote:
BOINC's funding from the U.S. National Science Foundation has ended, at least for the time being.
This funding supported me, Rom Walton, and Charlie Fenton.
We're now working on other things, although we'll stay involved in BOINC at some level.

The BOINC project will continue, and will be run according to a community-based model rather than centrally.
In essence, the people who contribute to BOINC now make the decisions about it.
This model is summarized here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ProjectGovernance and described in detail here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C6pU5RqidYBxk9oyAevm1yH1tn4Hw27oM8YpvsnR-gg

There will probably be little visible change.
The BOINC software will continue to work.
The translation system, Alpha testing project, BOINC web site,message boards, and email lists will continue to operate.
However, any new development and major bug fixes to BOINC will need to be done by volunteer programmers.
I'm confident that the BOINC community will meet the challenge.

I welcome your feedback.
Please post it to boinc_admin@googlegroups.com, a new email list for discussions about the BOINC project as a whole.

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Message 63105 - Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 21:07:37 UTC

Rom Walton wrote:
Howdy Folks,

We have released a new build to test. We believe that this build is a release candidate.

The big ticket items for the 7.6 release are:
* Improved advanced preferences dialog (more closely aligned with web based preferences)
* Improved menu layout
* Updated localizations
* Able to deal with project files greater than 4GB

If no showstoppers are found are found by the 27th, this will be the next public release.

NOTE: I will be following this email up with an individual email to everybody. A month or two ago the list server we used started disabling subscriptions due to a configuration issue. So I apologize in advance if you receive more than one email from me regarding the release email.

Please report any bugs to boinc_alpha@ssl.berkeley.edu.

Please report your test results to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/alpha/.

Thanks in advance.

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Message 63723 - Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 21:04:29 UTC
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Rom has little time these days to build BOINC.
Luckily building BOINC is easy these days. You can follow the Compile Client Wiki page, or else I will build beta BOINC. I've just built 7.6.7 for myself, will build a 32bit and 64bit beta version next.

One thing, when you do want to build your own BOINC, you need the boinc_depends_win_vs2013 repository. The Compile Client page points to the repositories store and there it says how to download the vs2010 repository.

This is the wrong version for vs2013.
Instead use your git program of choice to download http://boinc.berkeley.edu/git/boinc_depends_win_vs2013.git
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Message 63728 - Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 0:09:03 UTC

I could probably try to set up a temp web site with my ISP, but since they're under DDoS attack, I can't reach them.
It's very possible that no one can reach me, because my internet is still going through the ISP. That I have internet is purely because I don't use my ISP's DNS servers but those of Google. :)

At the moment I freed bandwidth in my torrent program so these clients could upload. I've also stored them on my NAS and turned the BT client on it on (that's bit torrent client, not British Telecom).

I only managed to upload the torrents through one site so far. Still waiting for permission from KAT. I surely do not have any intent to register at all possible torrent sites. 2 other sites I signed up with have a 12 hour cool off period to prevent spammers. BOINC User Wiki doesn't allow files larger than 2MB, and they are 13 and 13.5MB. :(

In the case people want me to upload through MEGA, no can do, can't reach it. Has it been taken out again?

Oh, and yes, the client's working perfectly:
<core_client_version>7.6.7</core_client_version>
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Message 63744 - Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 20:22:05 UTC - in response to Message 63723.  

Rom has little time these days to build BOINC.
Luckily building BOINC is easy these days. You can follow the Compile Client Wiki page, or else I will build beta BOINC. I've just built 7.6.7 for myself, will build a 32bit and 64bit beta version next.
One thing, when you do want to build your own BOINC, you need the boinc_depends_win_vs2013 repository. The Compile Client page points to the repositories store and there it says how to download the vs2010 repository.


I prefer to wait for a stable-compiled version...
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Message 63791 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 22:01:09 UTC

I upgraded six hosts from 7.6.6 to 7.6.7 (64bit, Windows 7 & 10).

Boinc benchmark results

7.6.6:
Measured floating point speed: about 3900 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed: about 10000 million ops/sec

7.6.7:
Measured floating point speed: 2319.06 million ops/sec
Measured integer speed: 3039.21 million ops/sec

All hosts got that same treatment. Benchmark results suffered in the same magnitude. That hasn't really been a problem so far, because the actual crunching speed hasn't changed. WU's seem to complete in pretty much the same time as earlier. Interesting anyway.
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