Thread 'astropulse_6 won't stop computing!'
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12 
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Lately, when I return to my computer (Windows XP SP3, AMD quad core), after leaving it running overnight so BOINC (version 7.0.28 x86) can compute, the machine is jerky. The mouse pointer on screen will only move every 5 seconds or so, even though I'm moving it smoothly. I looked in the Windows Task Manager / Processes tab and saw that astropulse and seti@home were STILL running. I have my BOINC settings such that BOINC is only allowed to run when the computer has been idle for 20 minutes. After I return to the pc and start using it, BOINC should stop, correct? It isn't. I've been using SETI@HOME since 1999 and this is new behavior from my point of view. I don't like it. I found that if I choose End Process on the astropulse and seti@home processes, my computer snaps back to life and I can use it smoothly again. Is this a known bug? Thanks, Eric ID: 47958 ·  |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112 
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Where are the Activity menus for CPU and GPU set? Claggy ID: 47959 · |
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12
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I have obvious boxes UN-checked, to prevent BOINC from using the GPU or CPU while I'M using the pc. Yet, it continues to use the CPU when I return to the keyboard/mouse!! Is this a known bug? Eric   ID: 48017 · |
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Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5135
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Is this a known bug? It's slowly becoming better known, as more people report it. We'll try and get a message back to the programmer. Edit - it would help if you could identify exactly which application seems to be exhibiting this problem. When you go into Task Manager to end the process(es), you will see the full program names: if you could note them down, and close them one at a time - then tell us at which point the jerkiness stops. That would be a great help, thanks. ID: 48018 · |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112
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Can you post your Boinc startup messages from the Event Log, the first 20 to 30 lines will do, (Since the Boinc forum isn't a project it doesn't display your computers, once we know your host id's we can then go and look at Seti and look at the task's stderr.txt entries and see what is being reported by the app) Claggy ID: 48019 · |
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12
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Hi all, Yes, I will let the be get idle and will check back and let you know which applications return the system to fluid functionality. I'm using Windows XP. What directory has the event log in it? Eric ID: 48027 · |
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Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5135
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I'm using Windows XP. What directory has the event log in it? The current event log can be displayed on screen by pressing Ctrl+Shift+E, or from the 'Advanced' menu in BOINC Manager. Older logs are in the BOINC Data directory. The current location for the data directory is re-displayed in the current log every time BOINC restarts, in the first three or four lines. The file name to look for is stdoutdae.txt, or for older messages stdoutdae.old ID: 48028 · |
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12
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OK. I've got the log for today. I left the computer alone around 12:10pm and returned around 4:00pm. I can PM you my account name if you like. 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.28 for windows_intelx86 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Running under account Eric 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad-Core Processor [Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 3] 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Processor: 512.00 KB cache 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00) 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Memory: 3.50 GB physical, 3.34 GB virtual 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Disk: 83.83 GB total, 49.62 GB free 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Local time is UTC -6 hours 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600 GT (driver version 301.42, CUDA version 4.20, compute capability 1.1, 512MB, 469MB available, 57 GFLOPS peak) 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8600 GT (driver version 301.42, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 512MB, 469MB available) 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Config: don't compute while seamonkey.exe is running 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 4101861; resource share 100 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 23-May-2010 18:42:50) 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | SETI@home | Computer location: home 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Reading preferences override file 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Preferences: 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | max memory usage when active: 716.48MB 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 3224.18MB 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | max disk usage: 1.00GB 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | max CPUs used: 2 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | don't compute while active 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | don't use GPU while active 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 % 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | max download rate: 1024000 bytes/sec 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | max upload rate: 716800 bytes/sec 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager) 3/3/2013 8:29:29 AM | | Not using a proxy 3/3/2013 8:29:30 AM | | Suspending computation - computer is in use 3/3/2013 12:36:25 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 3/3/2013 12:36:25 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 3 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 4 new tasks 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 24-Feb-2013 13:27:54) 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | SETI@home | Computer location: home 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | Reading preferences override file 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | Preferences: 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | max memory usage when active: 716.48MB 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 3224.18MB 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | max disk usage: 1.00GB 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | max CPUs used: 2 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | don't compute while active 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | don't use GPU while active 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 % 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | max download rate: 1024000 bytes/sec 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | max upload rate: 716800 bytes/sec 3/3/2013 12:36:41 PM | | (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager) 3/3/2013 12:36:43 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.108 3/3/2013 12:36:43 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 12:37:45 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.108 3/3/2013 12:37:45 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.215 3/3/2013 12:37:45 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.108_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 608 (cuda) in slot 0 3/3/2013 12:43:13 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.215: transient HTTP error 3/3/2013 12:43:13 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 3 min 22 sec on download of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.215 3/3/2013 12:43:13 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 13fe12ae.30846.373006.206158430223.10.5.vlar 3/3/2013 12:43:17 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 3/3/2013 12:43:18 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 3/3/2013 12:45:42 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu: transient HTTP error 3/3/2013 12:45:42 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 3 min 41 sec on download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 12:45:45 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 3/3/2013 12:45:46 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. 3/3/2013 12:46:30 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 13fe12ae.30846.373006.206158430223.10.5.vlar 3/3/2013 12:46:30 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 13fe12ae.30846.373006.206158430223.10.5.vlar_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603 in slot 1 3/3/2013 12:46:36 PM | SETI@home | Started download of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.215 3/3/2013 12:47:26 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.215 3/3/2013 12:47:26 PM | SETI@home | Starting task 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.215_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603 in slot 2 3/3/2013 12:49:24 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 12:55:56 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu: transient HTTP error 3/3/2013 12:55:56 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 5 min 44 sec on download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 12:55:59 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 3/3/2013 12:56:00 PM | | BOINC can't access Internet - check network connection or proxy configuration. 3/3/2013 1:01:41 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 1:14:35 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu: transient HTTP error 3/3/2013 1:14:35 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 7 min 19 sec on download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 1:21:55 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 1:27:56 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu: transient HTTP error 3/3/2013 1:27:56 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 7 min 44 sec on download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 1:40:29 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 1:43:14 PM | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu: transient HTTP error 3/3/2013 1:43:14 PM | SETI@home | Backing off 5 min 27 sec on download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 2:08:42 PM | SETI@home | Started download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 2:11:24 PM | SETI@home | Finished download of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu 3/3/2013 2:39:56 PM | SETI@home | Computation for task 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.108_1 finished 3/3/2013 2:39:56 PM | SETI@home | Starting task ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu_1 using astropulse_v6 version 604 (opencl_nvidia_100) in slot 0 3/3/2013 2:39:58 PM | SETI@home | Started upload of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.108_1_0 3/3/2013 2:40:05 PM | SETI@home | Finished upload of 18oc12ac.27207.17654.206158430219.10.108_1_0 3/3/2013 4:04:35 PM | SETI@home | Computation for task ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu_1 finished 3/3/2013 4:04:37 PM | SETI@home | Started upload of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu_1_0 3/3/2013 4:04:40 PM | SETI@home | Finished upload of ap_15my12ab_B0_P1_00089_20130303_07575.wu_1_0 ID: 48029 · |
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12
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After I left the machine for several hours, I came back, moved the mouse to stop BOINC and it was chunky. Here's what the BOINC manager looked like:  4 BOINC related applications were running in the Task Manager: "astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe" and "setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe" "boincmgr.exe" "boinc.exe"  I stopped only astropulse and the machine snapped back to fluid workings again. At that point the BOINC manager showed an error in the astropulse task.  ID: 48030 · |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112
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OK. I've got the log for today. I looked up host 4101861 at Seti: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4101861 On the following task i'd expect to see a 'Termination request detected. GPU device synched, awaiting termination...' entry if the task is suspended, but there isn't one: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=2857769292 Here is one of my own at Seti Beta on my 9800GTX+ with the r1305 app (as opposed to yours on the r1316 app), admittantly the 9800GTX+ is a bit faster than a 8600GT: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=10828704 I do have a 8400GS i can try the NV OpenCL r1316 app on, it has only done one r1316 Wu so far, but it didn't seem to suspend or restart at any point: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=12754183 Claggy ID: 48041 · |
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12
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I noted that the "error during computing" messages appeared after I manually stopped the Astropulse application in the Windows Task Manager. Is your diagnosis that the Astropulse application has a problem with Nvidia card drivers? Are all versions of the driver effected? According to the XP Device Manager, I've got NVIDIA driver 6.14.13.142 (5/15/2012). As you noted, I've got an nvidia 8600GT card. It has plenty of GPU horsepower for what I do. It also uses less power and generates less heat than super-performance video cards. Given that Astropulse has problems, can a "Disable Astropulse" checkbox be added so it does not run? Eric ID: 48051 · |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112
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Given that Astropulse has problems, can a "Disable Astropulse" checkbox be added so it does not run? That is already there, in your Setiathome preferences, untick Astropulse_v6 Claggy ID: 48052 · |
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12
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Is Astropulse just there to draw the 3D spectrum analyzer display during screen saver mode, or is it doing useful calculations for the project? Eric ID: 48053 · |
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Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5135
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Is Astropulse just there to draw the 3D spectrum analyzer display during screen saver mode, or is it doing useful calculations for the project? Have a look at the Astropulse FAQ page. Some of the details are horribly dated, but the basic description of what the project is about is still sound. ID: 48054 · |
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Send message Joined: 24 Feb 13 Posts: 12
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I see. Astropulse is related, but different than SETI. If someone can figure out how to fix Astropulse so it stops computing when it's supposed to, I'll continue to run it and contribute to the cause. Where will such a fix get communicated to the users? In a changelog of some kind? Thanks, Eric ID: 48131 · |
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Send message Joined: 5 Oct 06 Posts: 5135
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I see. Astropulse is related, but different than SETI. It would probably be discussed - at some length - on the SETI message boards. And any fixed application would be downloaded automatically to your computer when you requested work, the same way the original one was. ID: 48132 · |
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Send message Joined: 21 Apr 13 Posts: 1
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Bump. Any update on this bug? I am still experiencing it here too. Will try the trick of explicitly disabling AstroPulse v6 and see if that helps. Running with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 520. ID: 48748 · |
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Send message Joined: 23 Apr 07 Posts: 1112
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After I left the machine for several hours, I came back, moved the mouse to stop BOINC and it was chunky. It's been pointed out to me by PM (by someone who doesn't have an Account here) that boinctray isn't shown as being running, and you haven't mentioned it, boinctray is the idle detection program, it is started by the registry when you start the OS, Try rebooting, does the OpenCL AP app suspend O.K then? Claggy ID: 48784 · |
 Jord Send message Joined: 29 Aug 05 Posts: 15575 
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Try rebooting You can also just start boinctray by navigating to C:\Program Files\BOINC\ (if 64bit) or C:\Program Files (x86)\BOINC\ (if 32bit) and (double)clicking on boinctray.exe No need to (messily) reboot. Mind, starting boinctray this way won't show any program running, or a notification that it started. You can only see that in Windows task manager that it does. Newer BOINC version, like the present release client 7.0.64, will (re)start boinctray automatically upon installation. ID: 48787 · |
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Send message Joined: 26 Jun 13 Posts: 1
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AstroPulse won't even 'Suspend.' It is continually taking up 45 - 48% of CPU regardless whether i click on "Suspend." Also, in spite that i have the specified "Computing allowed: Only after computer has been idle for 3.00 minutes," it runs continuously. I would prefer to assist with this project but it is crippling my computer. "Abort" properly killed the process and i have my computer back. Yay! ID: 49735 · |
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