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Message 47159 - Posted: 10 Jan 2013, 12:22:06 UTC - in response to Message 47158.  

I've changed the preference on my SETI page and on the BOINC manager, so I'll see how the PC copes. It's relatively old, and can be RAM-bound as I run 4Gb on Vista 32-bit - I understand I'd need to change to 64-bit to use any more RAM. (Reminds me of having to use QEMM to access above 640K on DOS!)

To turn off the GPU, I take it I just do it from the activity menu in BOINC rather than via the SETI online preferences?

Yes, from the (local) activity menu - that takes effect immediately, whereas the website change might not be noticed for several hours (at the next update/work fetch/work report).
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Message 47161 - Posted: 10 Jan 2013, 13:03:22 UTC - in response to Message 47159.  

It's running in the background as I write. I chose Suspend GPU from the Activity menu at 12:57 after the "resuming computation" entry, and nothing appeared in the log. What should be written when I turn off GPU? This is the log:
10/01/2013 12:57:01 |  | Resuming computation
10/01/2013 12:57:01 | SETI@home | [cpu_sched] Resuming 24oc12ad.10465.2930.12.10.127_1
10/01/2013 12:57:01 | SETI@home | [cpu_sched] Resuming 25oc12aa.15614.4157.14.10.30_0
10/01/2013 12:57:07 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 25oc12aa.15614.4157.14.10.30_0 checkpointed
10/01/2013 12:57:31 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 24oc12ad.10465.2930.12.10.127_1 checkpointed
10/01/2013 12:58:20 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 25oc12aa.15614.4157.14.10.30_0 checkpointed
10/01/2013 12:58:40 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 24oc12ad.10465.2930.12.10.127_1 checkpointed
10/01/2013 12:59:33 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 25oc12aa.15614.4157.14.10.30_0 checkpointed
10/01/2013 12:59:45 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 24oc12ad.10465.2930.12.10.127_1 checkpointed
10/01/2013 13:00:44 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 25oc12aa.15614.4157.14.10.30_0 checkpointed
10/01/2013 13:00:51 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 24oc12ad.10465.2930.12.10.127_1 checkpointed
10/01/2013 13:01:53 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 25oc12aa.15614.4157.14.10.30_0 checkpointed
10/01/2013 13:01:56 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 24oc12ad.10465.2930.12.10.127_1 checkpointed
10/01/2013 13:03:03 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 24oc12ad.10465.2930.12.10.127_1 checkpointed
10/01/2013 13:03:04 | SETI@home | [checkpoint] result 25oc12aa.15614.4157.14.10.30_0 checkpointed

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Message 47168 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 8:24:05 UTC - in response to Message 47161.  

Something like mine does, when it comes to time-of-day switch off:
I run 3 Seti tasks on 3 CPU cores and one Einstein task on the GPU.

11/01/2013 07:00:00 |  | Suspending computation - time of day
11/01/2013 07:00:00 | SETI@home | [cpu_sched] Preempting 24oc12ae.11734.17245.11.10.223_0 (left in memory)
11/01/2013 07:00:00 | SETI@home | [cpu_sched] Preempting 24oc12ae.11734.20108.11.10.115_1 (left in memory)
11/01/2013 07:00:00 | SETI@home | [cpu_sched] Preempting 25oc12aa.8907.33112.11.10.104_1 (left in memory)
11/01/2013 07:00:00 | Einstein@Home | [cpu_sched] Preempting p2030.20120222.G194.47+00.27.S.b3s0g0.00000_208_0 (removed from memory)

Why do the Seti tasks stay in memory? Because I've got 'Leave in memory while suspended' set to On.
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Message 47172 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 9:44:27 UTC

It would only log the GPU switch-off if there was an actual GPU task running at the time.
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Message 47173 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 9:50:09 UTC - in response to Message 47161.  
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It's running in the background as I write. I chose Suspend GPU from the Activity menu at 12:57 after the "resuming computation" entry, and nothing appeared in the log. What should be written when I turn off GPU?

You have to have Running GPU task (in your case AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_nvidia_100))
to see any effect from "Suspend GPU from the Activity menu"

Do you use any program to monitor GPU load and temperature? (and know that 'something' is using it):

http://rh-software.com/
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/

http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

TThrottle (can also control the temperature to avoid overheating):
http://www.efmer.eu/boinc/

P.S.
You lose big processing time when you "Kill the app/process":
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4499642&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

Is the computer too unresponsive when AstroPulse runs on your GPU?





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Message 47182 - Posted: 11 Jan 2013, 15:17:35 UTC

I've been running with GPU off, and suspending from the Activity menu is immediate. I'll try the same with GPU on next. Afraid I'm away from this afternoon, so I won't be able to try anything more till after the weekend.

@BilBg Thanks for the info - I'd never considered the impact running task would have on the GPU, so I haven't been running anything to check on my it. I will have a look at that as soon as I get back after the weekend. With GPU off, 2 SETI tasks run and there is a slight but noticeable effect in general usage. With AP running in GPU, there is a significant impact in that everything is much, much slower and the PC is almost unusable - that's how I know it's been left running...

Is it either 1 task in GPU or 2 on my twin cores, or could I have 3 running when idle (1xGPU + 2xCPU)?
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Message 47207 - Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 14:54:35 UTC
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Got back after leaving PC running for weekend. The popup text on the BOINC icon in the system tray says
Computing is enabled
GPU computing is suspended - computer in use
Network is enabled

On checking the task manager, astropulse is running. Changing the GPU option in the Activity menu to Suspend GPU has no effect, When I close the BOINC manager, the task does stop, so it looks like the AP module isn't behaving as it should within BOINC.

The good news is that I had to check, as it seems to be running manageably and not hogging the CPU. It may have done this before, and I just hadn't noticed, as I only checked when the PC was sluggish...
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Message 47300 - Posted: 16 Jan 2013, 8:28:43 UTC

Any thoughts on why AP is still running when GPU is suspended?
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Message 47306 - Posted: 16 Jan 2013, 10:38:40 UTC - in response to Message 47300.  
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I recently noticed the following logging options for cc_config.xml:

<app_msg_receive> (Shared-memory messages received from applications.)
<app_msg_send> (Shared-memory messages sent to applications.)

If you turn them on you might be able to see whether the client is or is not sending a suspend order and whether the application acknowledges receiving it or not, etc. I don't know the details of the protocol between client and apps but someone around here probably will.
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Message 47336 - Posted: 17 Jan 2013, 5:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 47300.  
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Any thoughts on why AP is still running when GPU is suspended?

AP != GPU
(not every AP runs on your GPU)

You recently killed (probably) an CPU AP task (or was this just 'natural' error?):
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1150387841





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Message 47396 - Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 11:50:35 UTC

Try to use -exit_check additional option via cmd line or ap_cmdline.txt file.

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