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Message 69866 - Posted: 31 May 2016, 22:32:00 UTC

Eight hours and counting of the "regular" Tuesday outrage... longest I have ever seen. Even ran out of pokey GUPPI GPU work.
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Message 69869 - Posted: 31 May 2016, 23:45:40 UTC

I wonder what's taking so long? I also wonder if they'll get it fixed before the end of the working day.
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Message 69871 - Posted: 31 May 2016, 23:57:28 UTC

Yeah, I'm almost starting to get concerned. It is now 5pm in Berkeley. I suppose staying a little late isn't such a bad thing though--at least you'll miss rush hour. That's always been how I thought about when to go home: do I leave a little early before traffic picks up? Or... do I stay a little late and wait for it to calm down?
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Message 69872 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 0:05:54 UTC
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I hope that if it will be a while (ie days) that at least the main page will be updated so we can find work elsewhere.
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Message 69874 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 0:28:48 UTC - in response to Message 69872.  

Well, something is happening still, they've just loaded yet another tape ready for splitting, that's 7 so far..

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Message 69876 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 1:37:46 UTC

Me thinks we are down for the night, oh well.
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Message 69877 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 2:23:47 UTC - in response to Message 69876.  
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Me thinks we are down for the night, oh well.

Methinks you are right. 730pm there.. and it's still down.

Maybe something is needing a complete recovery/restore before being brought back online.

[wishful thinking] Or maybe.....just maybe....the AP database is getting that upgrade where it can accept results from more than just Arecibo? [/wishful thinking] [edit: But that wouldn't require the whole project being down.. that would just need the AP db to be disabled.

Hmmmmmm...
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Message 69878 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 2:41:37 UTC
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From Lunatics:

"Fresh from Eric Korpela, through email:

Carolyn (our BOINC database server) went down last night. Looks like a raid card problem. We're working on it. Will give an estimate shortly."
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Message 69879 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 2:50:19 UTC - in response to Message 69878.  

From Lunatics:

"Fresh from Eric Korpela, through email:

Carolyn (our BOINC database server) went down last night. Looks like a raid card problem. We're working on it. Will give an estimate shortly."


Umm, that message is dated March 30, 2016 ...
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Message 69880 - Posted: 1 Jun 2016, 3:00:25 UTC - in response to Message 69879.  
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Umm, that message is dated March 30, 2016 ...


Lol.. thank you for catching that. I will inform the quoter elsewhere. :^)

AAAAND IT'S BACK. Someone did some OT tonight.
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Message 69963 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 5:45:09 UTC

Well.........
The kittyman's had a rough week of it.
A storm and power outage did some damage here last weekend.
Took out a router, a GPU, and a keyboard.
The whiskey did some additional damage on the forums...meowsigh.

Finally getting it all sorted tonight and back to crunching as best as the kitties can.
May not have found all the damage just yet.

Meow for now.
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Message 69966 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 7:44:27 UTC - in response to Message 69963.  

Well.........
The kittyman's had a rough week of it.
A storm and power outage did some damage here last weekend.
Took out a router, a GPU, and a keyboard.
The whiskey did some additional damage on the forums...meowsigh.

Finally getting it all sorted tonight and back to crunching as best as the kitties can.
May not have found all the damage just yet.

Meow for now.

Condolences. Last power outage I had here a few months ago took out my UPS. I feel your pain ...
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Message 69971 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 10:03:03 UTC - in response to Message 69969.  

Weather-related outages aren't usually clean 'switch off - switch on' events - as those of us who live in rural(-ish) areas know all too well. Winds blow, conductors touch, lightning strikes, branches fall off trees. All accompanied by lights flickering, long before they finally go out. And then the engineers don't always make a clean connection first time when they put it all back together. I'm pretty sure it's all the transients round the edges that kills computers, not the blackout itself.
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Message 69976 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 12:49:47 UTC

I'm sure in my case there was a lightning strike that took the power out, and the massive spike induced by it caused the damage.
I have had a number of outages over the years, and this is the first time I suffered such a cat-astrophy.

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Message 69977 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 12:57:37 UTC - in response to Message 69976.  

If it was a lightning strike that caused your problems Mark could of been a lot worse like all your crunchers getting fried , or your house going up in flames coz of the electrics overloading
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Message 69979 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 13:03:41 UTC - in response to Message 69978.  
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Thanks for the feedback Mark. This confirmed what Richard said that it is spikes and surges and other transients that cause the damage, not the outage itself. If we ever had a real humdinger of a thunderstorm here, with lightning strikes all over the place, then yes I might be tempted to unplug everything as a precaution. But luckily we don't get that kind of severe weather over here.

Still intrigued at the keyboard though :-))

Actually, the keyboard came back......
Something on the mobo got confuzled, and after numerous cold boots, that finally sorted itself. Numlock would not work, so the number keypad on the right was dead in the water. The problem persisted through several reboots, so I grabbed a spare keyboard and it did the same thing.....
I bought a lot of 10 brand new WYSE keyboards on ebay a while back for about $4.00 apiece...good to have spares.
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Message 69988 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 17:47:59 UTC - in response to Message 69969.  

Last power outage I had here a few months ago took out my UPS

I'm having some difficulty understanding this. A "power outage" means to us a "power cut" i.e there is no mains power to the premises. A UPS will last on its batteries than close down. Are we saying that when the power is restored there is a massive surge, and it is that which damages the equipment?

There can definitely be surges when restoring power, depending on the nature of the repair, or the storms in the area. Don't know for sure, but I would suspect there's much more service in the US and Canada that is not underground, due to the spread out nature of things. In my case, for example, my blocks are all underground. Does us no real good, however, because our power feeds from the block to the north that is overhead, which feeds from the run down the highway which is overhead, etc. In the 60's nothing was underground, in the 70's most stuff was. Retrofits are rare.
Either way, the local distribution is generally 13,200v, with service step-down transformers providing the 240v phase to phase, 120v phase to neutral 3-wire 60hz power that is standard residential supply. (High power appliances such as electric ranges and clothes dryers universally require 240v). Usually 1 transformer for 4 houses or so, either pole mounted or at ground level for underground installations. 50-60 years ago, 110/220 to 115/230 was standard, but we also have experienced "voltage creep".
Often hard to say exactly what causes specific damage. I know we took a hit in the neighborhood quite a few years ago, before I had anything protected by UPS. Took out the TV I was watching, my 2400bps modem and the RS-232 card in the PC, but left the PC itself intact.
In the case of my UPS, I suspect that was a combination of age and loading. The 2000va UPS, at least 15 years old, was pretty heavily loaded, and though it passed periodic tests, could be an extended run was too much for it. All I know is that I found the battery fuse blown, and the UPS now presents a dead short to the batteries when they are connected.
The replacement UPS (2200VA) runs at 80% load, and input voltage is pretty consistent at 121v +/- 1v, which is surprisingly decent.
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Message 69989 - Posted: 5 Jun 2016, 20:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 69988.  
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Yeah, I live in a very old neighborhood. House was built in '54. Service from the pole on the NW corner of my back lot to the house is underground. Which I don't believe was common back then. Probably done because my lot is two lots deep, and it was most likely too far to make it from service pole to house in one drop. And no doubt, the owners would not have liked another pole planted in the middle of their back yard to stay overhead.
But from that pole on out, it's all above ground for quite a ways.
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Message 69992 - Posted: 6 Jun 2016, 0:32:42 UTC - in response to Message 69989.  
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And no doubt, the owners would not have liked another pole planted in the middle of their back yard to stay overhead.


This reminds me of a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry David and his wife sell the house because of a utility wire running over their backyard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65kifPAxj0E
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Message 70013 - Posted: 7 Jun 2016, 15:13:42 UTC

Down for maintenance at 8:12 AM PT!!
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