Yeah, let me stop posting PMs over there. Just in case those massive things get lost.

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Yeah, let me stop posting PMs over there. Just in case those massive things get lost.

And just in time.....
We are down.

Hope it is not an overly long outage today....
With all the super shorty tasks and no AP recently, the GPU caches are not going to last real long.

I see MS is having a big update again for Windows 7. All highly suspect.
Optional: KB3092627, recommended.
Important: Security updates KB3069114, KB3083992, KB3084135, KB3086255, KB3087039 and KB3087918, and one for Windows 7: KB3083324.

I'll let them wait for a few days again until we know what they do. After KB3075851 became the new KB3035583 (initialize Win10 upgrade), it shows MS is trying lots of things to confuse you to install Win10 anyway. Keep an eye out, boys.

Great, MS themselves cannot even find KB3069114, but they do want to push that update on my system!
Greater, KB3083324 was pushed as an Optional to US Windows users, but is now promoted to Important!

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It's getting to the point that one does not know which to fear more........
Virus attacks or the MS updates that supposedly are there to close the loopholes they use.

Right now, I am not sure I want to install any more updates at all to my 7 daily driver, as I would like to keep 7 intact.

This is terrible, now I have to be concerned
with the important updates as well?


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Much more of this and it's Linux for me....

This is terrible, now I have to be concerned
with the important updates as well?


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Much more of this and it's Linux for me....

Seems that way....
MS now appears to be lying about what are important security updates and what are 'MS agenda' updates.

Ah, 17 updates, 5 to office and the rest to winders, one is the dreaded 10 of course.

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I see MS is having a big update again for Windows 7. All highly suspect.
Optional: KB3092627, recommended.
Important: Security updates KB3069114, KB3083992, KB3084135, KB3086255, KB3087039 and KB3087918, and one for Windows 7: KB3083324.

I'll let them wait for a few days again until we know what they do. After KB3075851 became the new KB3035583 (initialize Win10 upgrade), it shows MS is trying lots of things to confuse you to install Win10 anyway. Keep an eye out, boys.

Great, MS themselves cannot even find KB3069114, but they do want to push that update on my system!
Greater, KB3083324 was pushed as an Optional to US Windows users, but is now promoted to Important!

I have done the upgrade to windows 10. Not sure what the fuss is about.

Everything still works. I am still able to use my 2007 version of office, which is good because I really don't like the new subscription version of office they have bought in. Mainly because when I buy something once I expect to keep it for ever and ever.

Now, my big question is will we have to pay a subscription to windows? I thought not, but the people are panicking.

You can uninstall KB3035583 You just have to go
to add/remove and chop it out of there....

You can uninstall KB3035583 You just have to go
to add/remove and chop it out of there....

I know that I can uninstall that one, as well as all other W10 prep crap, but as I said, I'm curious, and I want to see how the crime syndicate is going to handle this after the first "free year" :-)

Its an adventure!

I had one lappie to do that with, but then I
got sick so I just said to heck with it. Now
I read every thing. I know MS is better than
I am, but I can try....

Not sure what the fuss is about.

Mainly the privacy concerns, and that this system is my computer, I decide what (software / driver) updates I want to install and when. I already have a peer to peer program installed taking up some bandwidth, I really do not need Microsoft's built-in version continuously distributing updates from my system to others or getting them in from others. You don't know where they've been, what they've been in contact with and if they've got hidden packages fetched on the way.

At least MP3s, MP4s and MKVs are hideously difficult to infect with a virus, worm or Trojan, but not so the .exe and .msi files Microsoft uses for their updates. When they come directly from the MS server, there's some feeling of security. But not when they're distributed through the built-in P2P client that takes these updates from others their systems. One big botnet.

What I also do not like is that Microsoft said that you had the choice if you wanted to update, but in the mean time they change "optional updates" to "important", so that all these optional "Update your Windows to Windows 10" preparation updates sneak their way onto your system, leaving you almost without a choice if you want to update.

Of course, in 3 months time there will just be a service pack that installs all that crap. Or they'll find a security problem that cannot be fixed in Windows 7/8/8.1, but is fixed in 10 and so why don't you install that to be safe?

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I had lunch almost 2 hrs ago and we are still down.

As far as I have found, 3083324 is optional, but InfoWorld suggests avoiding it.

The other update, 3092627 seems okay.

The updates to really keep an eye on are the ones that are simply labeled "Update for Windows 7/8.1." The ones that are "Security Update for.." are basically fine, because those are just fixing/patching existing things. "Update for..." is adding something new, so those are the ones to investigate.

When the forums come back online, I'll add this info to the Win 10 thread there.



Re: Comcast offering multiple gigabit connections... I honestly don't see the point. I have the 105mbit package, but I'm still using an ancient DOCSIS 2.0 modem, so I can only use 37mbit of it.. and that's plenty fast enough for me. Really, 99.99999% of webpages won't load any faster whether you have 5mbit or 10gbit. The only difference is how long it takes for large files to download. If you're downloading a 1 GiB file, at 37mbit, it will take right about 4 minutes. On 105mbit, it's about a minute and a half. And of course, that all depends on whether the server you're downloading from and the path through the backbones you're using can supply you with the throughput anyway.

I'm just fine with only being able to get 4.1 MiB/sec for download, for $44/mo. The other part of the reason why I find it useless to have gigabits of download speed available, aside from the price that comes with it, is the fact that Comcast has a cap of 300GB/mo before you start getting charged more money for every 50GB that you go over 300. So what's the point of being able to download huge files at blazing speed.. if you're going to be limited by how much you can download anyway?

It's much like the argument about "what's the point of buying a car that can do 250mph if the highest speed limit on any of the roads you'll ever be on is 70-80mph? Instead of wasting your money on that ridiculously expensive car, you can get the cheapest of cheap cars, and those can do 70-80 just fine.

I guess it's just bragging-rights that you have a 2gbit connection, but it isn't useful at all in the grand scheme of things. All of the webpages you visit are going to load just as fast, and the only difference is going to be saving like.. 20 seconds on the majority of downloads.

///rant

I well remember it taking nine hours to download
an image of the moon in older days...

I well remember it taking nine hours to download an image of the moon in older days...

As do I. I remember 14.4k dial-up quite well. Those days were awful. You'd see some 1MB file and you had to decide if it was really worth waiting all that time for it to download or not. The world today has become so incredibly spoiled.

I well remember it taking nine hours to download an image of the moon in older days...

As do I. I remember 14.4k dial-up quite well. Those days were awful. You'd see some 1MB file and you had to decide if it was really worth waiting all that time for it to download or not. The world today has become so incredibly spoiled.

What? 14.4k?!! Try an ASR33 with an acoustic coupler at 110 baud!

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Heh, is this going to be a competition on who had the lowest baud connection?

I remember a time when you had to walk 10 kilometers, if you wanted to talk to your neighbour :-)

Was it uphill both ways? In the snow? :p

In your Dad's pyjamas?


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Jam jams...

In your Dad's pyjamas?


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Jam jams...

Long johns the the buttons had popped off