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Message 95411 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 0:59:05 UTC

Got home a bit ago.... where is my megaphone and lighter.......


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Message 95412 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 1:00:51 UTC

Are there any other BOINC projects besides E@H that will allow a resource "0" so they will only run as a backup project?

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Message 95414 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 1:30:19 UTC - in response to Message 95412.  

Are there any other BOINC projects besides E@H that will allow a resource "0" so they will only run as a backup project?

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I would think any of them would? It's a BOINC control, after all.
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Message 95415 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 1:37:53 UTC - in response to Message 95414.  

Are there any other BOINC projects besides E@H that will allow a resource "0" so they will only run as a backup project?

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I would think any of them would? It's a BOINC control, after all.

IIRC there are some projects which only allow a a resource of 1 or greater, I don't know what they are.
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Message 95416 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 1:44:40 UTC
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I`m back from the outrage pub. The world is spinning around my head.

Will hollow the moon while sleeping.

Host mode is at auto, his large WU cache must hold it working for the next 24 hrs. I hope. LOL


Good night all!
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Message 95417 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 1:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 95415.  

IIRC there are some projects which only allow a a resource of 1 or greater, I don't know what they are.

Didn't know that. Interesting ...
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Message 95418 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 2:00:46 UTC

Now a bit more than 9 1/2 hours since the outrage began. My neighbors Beagles. are helping me howling at the small sliver of the waning moon (13%) tonight.

Lucky for me my other neighbor is not home tonight and the cows are not in the pastures behind my home.

So here goes
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Message 95419 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 2:06:53 UTC - in response to Message 95417.  

IIRC there are some projects which only allow a a resource of 1 or greater, I don't know what they are.

Didn't know that. Interesting ...

That is a server side control. Some projects allow fractional work shares. Older back ends don't nor do they allow zero.
Unfortunately, you need to try on each project.
Of course you could set the SETI share to a very huge number so that one is nearly zero.
I think there are also controls you can set in the app config files to only fetch one work unit at a time, only crunch one at a time, etc. on a project by project basis.
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Message 95420 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 2:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 95417.  

IIRC there are some projects which only allow a a resource of 1 or greater, I don't know what they are.

Didn't know that. Interesting ...

So adjust the share on your preferred projects so that the emergency project is 1 in a thousand or more.

Main project 900, Secondary project 99, Emergency Project 1, or similar.
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Message 95421 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 3:11:31 UTC

After much deliberation I have concluded neither howling on the moon or setting my hair on fire will help, there for drinking is the only outlet I am able to come up with.
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Message 95422 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 3:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 95421.  

I concur. Since they warned us by stating "this week's"... We should conserve our resources and wait to start burning hair and howling at the moon once SETI has been m.i.a. 25 or more hours.

We don't want to run out of hair or strain our vocal cords too early in this once in a decade super duper grand mal outrage.
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Message 95424 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 6:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 95415.  

Are there any other BOINC projects besides E@H that will allow a resource "0" so they will only run as a backup project?

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I would think any of them would? It's a BOINC control, after all.

IIRC there are some projects which only allow a a resource of 1 or greater, I don't know what they are.

CPDN allows it but you may not want to download tasks when most take over ten days on a fast machine.
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Message 95426 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 9:53:41 UTC - in response to Message 95420.  

IIRC there are some projects which only allow a a resource of 1 or greater, I don't know what they are.
Didn't know that. Interesting ...
So adjust the share on your preferred projects so that the emergency project is 1 in a thousand or more.

Main project 900, Secondary project 99, Emergency Project 1, or similar.
That might not be the right solution for all. Resource share 1 will allow BOINC to request a full multi-day cache, and when it arrives, BOINC will panic that it won't be able to finish it in time.

If resource share 0 is available, it should do a more manageable fetch. Zero is a relatively recent addition, so it'll be the projects which are on the ball and update their servers regularly which have it: projects which leave their servers untouched for years - won't.
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Message 95430 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 10:55:38 UTC

CPDN allows it but you may not want to download tasks when most take over ten days on a fast machine.

Climate Prediction is a long beast of a work unit. I remember some taking around 300 plus hours to finish.
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Message 95435 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 12:19:15 UTC
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I have successfully set World Community Grid to 0.0001 resources. I remember it not accepting "0".

I suppose I should check that again. If I can get that setup then I could use the relatively well behaved Einstein@Home gpu tasks and use the World Community Grid cpu tasks as the backups on my 100% Seti box.

It wouldn't get so bored....

Most of my boxes run a mix of Seti@Home on the gpus and WCG on the cpus. My bias is towards supporting Seti@Home but I want to be directly "socially conscious" and WCG allows me to do that. It is a project aggregator so I get a wide mix.

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ps. The main website is still down so I presume the DB re-org is still munching along.
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Message 95436 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 12:22:24 UTC - in response to Message 95435.  
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ps. The main website is still down so I presume the DB re-org is still munching along.


Just got one of my secondary systems back on line so it is munching WCG and E@H.

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Message 95437 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 12:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 95436.  


ps. The main website is still down so I presume the DB re-org is still munching along.


Just got one of my secondary systems back on line so it is munching WCG and E@H.

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Must be time to get another round in then.
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Message 95438 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 12:52:41 UTC - in response to Message 95437.  


ps. The main website is still down so I presume the DB re-org is still munching along.


Just got one of my secondary systems back on line so it is munching WCG and E@H.

Tom

Must be time to get another round in then.



Yup. Or the perform the bane of the drinking man.



Go to Work!

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Message 95442 - Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 12:58:33 UTC - in response to Message 95438.  

Go to Work!


They would complain if I did that and spread the flu around. My generosity would not be appreciated.
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