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Message 84963 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 2:58:25 UTC - in response to Message 84961.  

Web site is back. Not the schedulers or servers.

Schedulers are UP!
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Message 84972 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 15:20:36 UTC - in response to Message 84943.  

Send it over to blighty, we can then have a good moan about the wrong type of snow on the tracks.
About 5 inches on my yard in the last 24 hours, judging by what had arrived since I shovelled it yesterday. And as soon as I finish today's clearance, it starts filling up again.
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Message 84975 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 16:27:12 UTC

Aren't you the "lucky" one....
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Message 84977 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 17:19:29 UTC - in response to Message 84975.  

Aren't you the "lucky" one....
Actually, it can be quite fun once in a while. I have a low wall separating the yard from an open field: plenty of space for disposing of the fallout. If you catch it while it's fresh, soft and fluffy, over the wall it goes with the minimum of fuss. Even better if you can time it for the sunshine between the snow showers...
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Message 84982 - Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 19:18:33 UTC
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I particularly like the way it sighs as it lands on my eyelashes. Compacting it into a snowball feels like vandalism, it's soooooooooo supersoft so I haven't. Nor have I shovelled any. I'll probably think I should have done at some point during a slide down the path into the gate in the morning or whenever. Not for myself as it'll make a nice difference to colliding with it from the other side when the catch doesn't entirely release, but for anyone else without a penchant for slipping about in a largely upright-ish fashion, more-or-less

edit: it would seem I forgot the end of the sentence. It'll be down there if you're looking for it

...I probably should.
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Message 84985 - Posted: 1 Mar 2018, 8:24:55 UTC - in response to Message 84977.  

Aren't you the "lucky" one....
Actually, it can be quite fun once in a while. I have a low wall separating the yard from an open field: plenty of space for disposing of the fallout. If you catch it while it's fresh, soft and fluffy, over the wall it goes with the minimum of fuss. Even better if you can time it for the sunshine between the snow showers...

Not as bad as 1963, couldn't get to the Poly, Bradford district was gripped by weather in March 1963
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Message 84986 - Posted: 1 Mar 2018, 8:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 84985.  

Aren't you the "lucky" one....
Actually, it can be quite fun once in a while. I have a low wall separating the yard from an open field: plenty of space for disposing of the fallout. If you catch it while it's fresh, soft and fluffy, over the wall it goes with the minimum of fuss. Even better if you can time it for the sunshine between the snow showers...
Not as bad as 1963, couldn't get to the Poly, Bradford district was gripped by weather in March 1963
I remember that one. I wasn't in Bradford then: we lived in Manchester at the time, but I was staying with my grandparents when it started. They'd retired to a Cotswold village, and I can still see one of the access roads: a sunken road, flanked by high hedges, completely filled with a U-shaped showdrift with a single-track trampled line of footprints along the middle.
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Message 85009 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 13:27:12 UTC

The dreary outrage has begin once again.
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Message 85010 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 13:43:39 UTC - in response to Message 85009.  

The dreary outrage has begin once again.
And unusually, this time they've disabled the upload and download servers as well. Maybe they have hardware to fix, maybe they have backlogs to clear.
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Message 85011 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 13:49:14 UTC

Good morning everyone. :-)
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Message 85012 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 13:50:53 UTC

The end is nigh? Uh-oh :(
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Message 85014 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 16:03:52 UTC - in response to Message 85012.  

I raised a couple of baby turtles from birth, and once they got big enough, they were chowing down on cherry tomatoes just like in your avatar picture. :~)
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Message 85015 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 16:12:09 UTC
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Hi, I have only recently (2 months), restarted running SETI.

What is the usual duration of the weekly outage ? It seems to last a lot longer than I remember from a few years ago.

What is the usual start time and end time in UTC ?

I know that some of the staff have moved on to other things, so I presume that is part of the reason for the longer outages.

Sorry if this is a FAQ , but I couldn't find a list of FAQs on the SETI site about it.
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Message 85017 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 16:39:00 UTC - in response to Message 85015.  

The usual starting time is a few minutes after 13:00 UTC each Tuesday. For the next couple of weeks, it is likely to be 12:00+ UTC because of Daylight Saving Time in the USA, before reverting to 13:00+ BST a couple of weeks later. Very rarely, the day is switched to Wednesday because of public holidays or other events. These times are not guaranteed, and variations are not usually signalled in advance - they depend on who is available and what needs to be done on the day.

You are right that it takes longer than you remember, because the size of the things to be maintained - the databases - has grown much larger. We are routinely processing 120,000 tasks per hour (approaching 3 million a day) - we used to do maybe a third of that number. All thanks to returning volunteers like you, new recruits, more available work from Breakthrough Listen, and more powerful consumer hardware. Maintenance usually lasts at least 10 hours (start looking for signs of life around 23:00), but can take longer as the server hardware wears out and components (especially hard disk drives) need to be replaced.
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Message 85021 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 18:34:18 UTC

I see that the guys are doing it a bit different this week. Looks like pretty much everything is disabled, including the upload server. Wonder if they are trying to catch up on delete and purge stuff?
We'll see if it is another long outage. Hope not!
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Message 85022 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 18:43:07 UTC - in response to Message 85010.  

The dreary outrage has begin once again.
And unusually, this time they've disabled the upload and download servers as well. Maybe they have hardware to fix, maybe they have backlogs to clear.

Yep
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Message 85023 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 19:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 85017.  

The usual starting time is a few minutes after 13:00 UTC each Tuesday. For the next couple of weeks, it is likely to be 12:00+ UTC because of Daylight Saving Time in the USA, before reverting to 13:00+ BST a couple of weeks later. Very rarely, the day is switched to Wednesday because of public holidays or other events. These times are not guaranteed, and variations are not usually signalled in advance - they depend on who is available and what needs to be done on the day.

You are right that it takes longer than you remember, because the size of the things to be maintained - the databases - has grown much larger. We are routinely processing 120,000 tasks per hour (approaching 3 million a day) - we used to do maybe a third of that number. All thanks to returning volunteers like you, new recruits, more available work from Breakthrough Listen, and more powerful consumer hardware. Maintenance usually lasts at least 10 hours (start looking for signs of life around 23:00), but can take longer as the server hardware wears out and components (especially hard disk drives) need to be replaced.


Thanks, Richard. I am planning to wipe and reset one of my recently added Android hosts, as it has developed sound problems. Sounds are about 15% of what they should be using the built in speakers, but sound is ok via headphones. I'm not sure if it is a hardware or software issue.

I set it to N N T a few days ago, final task before wiping is in the mid 90s %

Hopefully the project will be back late tonight UK time. I have a few other things to back up before wiping, so I will probably do it tomorrow.
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Message 85025 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 23:12:52 UTC

Even the S S P is Down now, my task completed OK, just waiting for that to upload and report before I clean everything off my tablet before I reset it.
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Message 85026 - Posted: 6 Mar 2018, 23:28:51 UTC
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This might help the time pass a bit...

I'm not recommending it though... no...

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