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Message 39999 - Posted: 4 Sep 2011, 17:39:22 UTC

I have been trying for months to get rid of boincstats keeping hostage of my accounts.
No matter what i change that site allways gets into all accounts and i do not want that.
I tried change first login info on boincstats then a few days later i changed all accounts info including email, password and user name but even when the 2 are totally different the site takes over all account when it/he wishes.

In the begin i did not know this person got so much control over my boinc accounts, so i changed email addresses and account name and country.

But whatever i do even with totally different and even fake login info in boincstats it take back every control whenever it wants

So this site uses some other ways to keep control everyones accounts

On my frequent requests to remove this i got no answer nor does the person in control stops using this.

I was under the impression i could end this control whenever i wanted but no matter what i do it/he keeps full control.
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Message 40000 - Posted: 4 Sep 2011, 17:50:13 UTC - in response to Message 39999.  

I think you fundamentally misunderstand how BOINC statistics work, but rather than launch into a long explanation, can you confirm that you mean Boincstats or do you mean BAM? Also, can you clarify how your accounts are being 'controlled'?

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Message 40002 - Posted: 4 Sep 2011, 17:57:54 UTC
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Well whatever you call it when i changed the total fake info on bam it changed many accounts with totally different login info into that of bam/boincstats
For me BAM and boincstats is one no matter how you like to call it.
So no i am not mistaken it clearly keeps control even if they do not match at all
As far as i can see it keeps control by collected account keys
If one does not want this, it should be possible to remove it.
And yes i clearly do not trust this..... i see this issue as a huge failure of boinc security.
If one person with certain intensions wants it can take over whatever, even if you turn of this so called bam and change all info on all accounts and on that site after a year you turn it on and poof it has full control again.
Again every project has been changed into fully different login info and email which obvious does not matter
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Message 40006 - Posted: 4 Sep 2011, 20:15:55 UTC - in response to Message 40002.  

As the name says, BAM! is a BOINC Account Manager (one of several)!

What else do you expect of an account manager if you tell it to change your user name and/or email address than to do exactly that?

You were told at the BAM! forum to change your profile data to erase hints to your personal data. But if you change the entries in your main account page without previously removing all projects from your project list, it is the purpose of any account manager to propagate those changes to all connected projects!

So, where is your problem? RTFM!

Gruß,
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Message 40012 - Posted: 5 Sep 2011, 11:59:00 UTC

Dude you do not get it !

I do not want this crap bam to control my accounts as i said it should not have so much control if someone does not want it

I want the crap bam off / out of my accounts no matter what.

Try it there is no way you can get rid of this crap bam/boincstats
I asked them to delete the account
Changed all info turned it off, changed info again and again whatever you do you will not get rid of it in any way.
The fact that it can control all my accounts without me allowing it is insane!!!
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Message 40013 - Posted: 5 Sep 2011, 12:38:41 UTC - in response to Message 40012.  

You have connected through an account manager. Without account keys, this manager won't be able to connect you to any of the projects you yourself chose to connect to. There was no-one pointing any deadly weapons at you when you chose to do so, was there? :)

And as such, through the account manager, you can also choose to no longer connect to these projects. To do so, go to http://boincstats.com/bam/resources.php and choose for each project that you do not want to connect to any longer, the option of "Detach all hosts now". Make sure to click the Update button at the bottom of this page.

Next open BOINC Manager and sync with BAM (look for "Synch with account manager" in the menus). You can now attach to any project by attaching to a project. Never ever again use the "Use account manager" option again, but instead use the "Add project" option in the "add to wizard".

If you want to get rid of the account at BAM!, that's not possible. For much the same reason that you cannot delete your account at any project: Some day in the future, you will have a change of heart and want to go use this project/that AMS again, and then you'll be horrified to find that your precious account is gone and you will want it back, have tantrums and fights over it on forums, and in the end find you must then make a new account anyway. To make sure this never happens, no projects, nor account managers will throw away accounts.

You do not want to use it any longer, for now? That's possible.
Go to this page, edit what you can and fill in humbug, onzin.
Next go to this page, check all projects and click Update.

The last bit is in case you remember anything you filled in at the place where you're supposed to fill in humbug, onzin, and you attach to the account manager again. That way there are no projects registered in this account manager, for you to attach to and have more fits over.

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Do know that neither BOINC, nor the University of Berkeley California, nor the developers of BOINC have any say in what happens on account managers. Any problem you have with the account manager, you will have to take up with the account manager developer/administrator.

You're allowed to complain about it on these forums, as long as you keep it civil and do not attack the other volunteers trying to help you. Doing so will give them the right to attack you back --but that usually ends up in a fight with me locking or hiding the thread-- or to completely ignore you for any future posts you make --but that ends with you not getting any help either.
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Message 40040 - Posted: 6 Sep 2011, 19:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 40013.  
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You do not want to use it any longer, for now? That's possible.
Go to this page, edit what you can and fill in humbug, onzin.
Next go to this page, check all projects and click Update.

The last bit is in case you remember anything you filled in at the place where you're supposed to fill in humbug, onzin, and you attach to the account manager again. That way there are no projects registered in this account manager, for you to attach to and have more fits over.

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Do know that neither BOINC, nor the University of Berkeley California, nor the developers of BOINC have any say in what happens on account managers. Any problem you have with the account manager, you will have to take up with the account manager developer/administrator.


I did all of the above you mention including any other options mentioned by all other friends/fellow boincers and weird ideas, in no way a person can remove access from this so called managers when once given access.
I somehow hope developers is going to change this.
Since i think is a missing security option.

There should be a option to stop these managers to get into your account(s)
I am not flaming nor attacking people i just try to explain that i have been busy on this for many months
And its frustrating to find that with totally different account info this managers simply take back control whenever.
What i think is through the projects access keys.
I am also warning people when using once such manager it never let loose your accounts even if you want it.


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