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Message 21064 - Posted: 1 Nov 2008, 9:04:23 UTC
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I only noticed recently that my screen saver is not working.

So i read this page on the BOINC website; http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/The_BOINC_screensaver , and it suggested i get the latest OpenGL updates. I have ATI graphics and i visit the website and downloaded whatever they had to offer. There was no mention of OpenGL on the website.

Anyway, graphics for SETI don't work.

My Graphics sofwtware;

Driver Packaging Version 8.541-080923a-XXXXX-ATI
Catalyst® Version 08.10
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6869
2D Driver File Path System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Video/XXXXXXX
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0618
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.8086
Catalyst® Control Center Version 2008.0923.2139.36956
AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6238
AIW/VIVO WDM SP Driver Version 6.14.10.6238


My Graphics hardware

Primary Adapter
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset Radeon X1600 Series
Device ID 7181
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 0920
Subsystem Vendor ID 174B

Graphics Bus Capability PCI Express
Maximum Bus Setting PCI Express x16

BIOS Version 009.012.013.002
BIOS Part Number 11x-XXXXXXX-001
BIOS Date 2006/07/10

Memory Size 512 MB
Memory Type HyperMemory

Core Clock in MHz 635 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 342 MHz


This PC; Windows XP media center edition

My BOINC version; 6.2.18

The SETI work unit version; setiathome_enhanced 5.28

I normally never look at the graphics but its nice when they work. Any idea guys?

John.
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Message 21065 - Posted: 1 Nov 2008, 10:34:59 UTC - in response to Message 21064.  

My BOINC version; 6.2.18

The SETI work unit version; setiathome_enhanced 5.28

I normally never look at the graphics but its nice when they work. Any idea guys?

John.

SETI v5.28 is not a current SETI application. It won't, wherever it came from, have a BOINC v6 compatible graphics sub-system.

My guess is that you have installed one of the third-party optimised SETI applications. Most optimised applications don't contain any graphics at all (and that includes the screensaver) - the eye-candy rather defeats the purpose of the optimisation, which is to do the science as quickly as possible.

There are some optimised applications with graphics capability, for those who are prepared to sacrifice an element of the performance, but again they have not been re-engineered to fit into the new-ish BOINC v6 graphics model: the demand just isn't there, and the volunteer programmers have better things to do with their time.
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Message 21066 - Posted: 1 Nov 2008, 11:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 21065.  
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My BOINC version; 6.2.18

The SETI work unit version; setiathome_enhanced 5.28

I normally never look at the graphics but its nice when they work. Any idea guys?

John.

SETI v5.28 is not a current SETI application. It won't, wherever it came from, have a BOINC v6 compatible graphics sub-system.

My guess is that you have installed one of the third-party optimised SETI applications. Most optimised applications don't contain any graphics at all (and that includes the screensaver) - the eye-candy rather defeats the purpose of the optimisation, which is to do the science as quickly as possible.

There are some optimised applications with graphics capability, for those who are prepared to sacrifice an element of the performance, but again they have not been re-engineered to fit into the new-ish BOINC v6 graphics model: the demand just isn't there, and the volunteer programmers have better things to do with their time.

Your guess is correct Richard, i have an opp app.

I never run the graphics but i always downloaded the opp app with the option for graphics so, from time to time, i could remind myself why i do this.

So is there no opp app avalable that is v6 compatible with graphics? If not, i will just have to live with it!

John.
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Message 21067 - Posted: 1 Nov 2008, 12:10:36 UTC - in response to Message 21066.  

Your guess is correct Richard, i have an opp app.

I never run the graphics but i always downloaded the opp app with the option for graphics so, from time to time, i could remind myself why i do this.

So is there no opp app avalable that is v6 compatible with graphics? If not, i will just have to live with it!

John.

It sounds as if you're in an application limbo, neither efficient nor pretty.

By upgrading to BOINC v6.2.18, you have effectively killed off the graphics capability of your v5-compatible application.

But by not upgrading your science application, you are missing out on the substantial performance increase obtained in the later optimised applications, released over six months ago (30 April 2008). I'll leave you to decide which version(s) you want to live with.
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Message 21068 - Posted: 1 Nov 2008, 12:20:53 UTC

BOINC 6 won't show the graphics of the non-BOINC 6 applications when you have installed as the protected application execution option (aka the service). They will show when you install in normal mode (akin to the single user/multi user mode).
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Message 21082 - Posted: 2 Nov 2008, 14:12:46 UTC

Thanks for the help guys!

The advice is very much appreciated!

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