For the most part, yes. They are all ending up named "Space Family", though there seems to be more than one team ID in a "holding pattern" at least at Rosetta. My suspicion is that this Barbar <expletive> has others "parked" in case he loses his current team and/or is banned from forming a new one.
This operation appears to be very wide ranging, deliberate and malicious.

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Team Bitbendertech

For the most part, yes. They are all ending up named "Space Family", though there seems to be more than one team ID in a "holding pattern" at least at Rosetta. My suspicion is that this Barbar <expletive> has others "parked" in case he loses his current team and/or is banned from forming a new one.
This operation appears to be very wide ranging, deliberate and malicious.

Could we get the stats sites to not display teams that have 2 IDs for the same name?

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Could we get the stats sites to not display teams that have 2 IDs for the same name?

Isn't that counterproductive when it comes to flushing these things out?

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Could we get the stats sites to not display teams that have 2 IDs for the same name?

Isn't that counterproductive when it comes to flushing these things out?

Is it possible at all to have the same name for 2 teams? Can anybody found a new team SETI.Germany in any project?
He's taken one "xxx" and one "xx", so I thought it was prevented.

And the possibility of name change should be possible, perhaps a bit harder to manage. But it's imho not only necessary in the first weeks for speling eroors, but for example for expanding teams as well.If someone founds a team Smallville Einsteins @Einstein, and discovers a year later Milkyway, she should be able to rename the team to Smallville Astronomers or such.

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Gruesse vom Saenger

For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki

Is it possible at all to have the same name for 2 teams? Can anybody found a new team SETI.Germany in any project?

As far as I know, yes. Team names aren't protected. Just as user names aren't protected.

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BOINC wide teams still do not really solve the problem.

Let's not forget this is not only a Boinc problem, but a community problem as well.

The various teams also have some responsibility in keeping things current in regards to who is team founder and trying to keep track at the various projects.

By utilizing the BWT founder and project manager scheme, This makes it easier for the team to keep an eye on things across numerous projects even if they are not actively working at them.

The BWT founder has the responsibility that if he/she leaves the team, getting a replacement on the way out the door. Only the team founder should be allowed to change the team name since it will affect the team across ALL the projects. (Quick indicator to the rest of the members that something's up)

BWT founder should also be the only one able to boot/fire/force replace a team manager. (Managers should have the ability to resign their position giving it to another member)

Will it completely rid us of the possibility of our teams being hijacked? Probably not.
But it will make it MUCH harder for these cheaters to do so.

Especially so if the team founder change can only be done through BOINC Wide Teams. If the hijacker then changes the team description on BWT, it'll propagate to all projects. Don't you think people will find out earlier this way that their team has all of a sudden changed?

Joining a team would still be possible through any individual project.
Just changing of the team founder needs to be done through BWT. (Right?)

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Joining a team would still be possible through any individual project.
Just changing of the team founder needs to be done through BWT. (Right?)

That's the idea.. Also by Boinc only needing to notify the current founder and various project team managers, it greatly reduces the number of emails needing to be sent while still trying to inform members of a possible hostile takeover bid.
Of course if BWT founder and all the team managers are the same person, It would kinda defeat the purpose. So we would have to make sure we have other peeps doing the manager bit at the projects.

[edit] It could also speed up the founder change if a few of the manages reply approving of the change.

Of course if BWT founder and all the team managers are the same person, It would kinda defeat the purpose. So we would have to make sure we have other peeps doing the manager bit at the projects.

The Team Founder cannot be made a team Admin, but apparently he is one by default.
I just tried adding myself as team Admin on Seti, got an error message that I already was an Admin on my team.

So what should TA's be able to do? This is what they can do now:

You can select team members as 'Team Admins'. Team Admins can:

* Edit team information (name, URL, description, country).
* View the team's join/quit history.
* Moderate the team forum, if any (admins get emails notification of moderation events and red X reports).

Team Admins cannot:

* Change the team founder.
* Remove members.
* Add or remove Team Admins.

If a Team Admin quits the team, they cease to be a Team Admin.

OT, I like your avatar. Original. :-)

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OT, I like your avatar. Original. :-)

Yeah, way cuter than Cpt. Picard himself :-)

So what should TA's be able to do? This is what they can do now:

You can select team members as 'Team Admins'. Team Admins can:

* Edit team information (name, URL, description, country).
* View the team's join/quit history.
* Moderate the team forum, if any (admins get emails notification of moderation events and red X reports).

Team Admins cannot:

* Change the team founder.
* Remove members.
* Add or remove Team Admins.

If a Team Admin quits the team, they cease to be a Team Admin.

I like the idea of a project specific description, but the URL, Name, and Country should be founder only options. Also there should be only one admin for the team at a project. (Founder should also have admin control at the project level)

Just how automated is the current founder change system? Because the way I see it, Founder / TA changes should not need to be automated anymore. As under this idea, only the founder can boot a ta, and only the ta's can approve a "forced" founder change. A Boinc admin (or designated person) will still be required to make the actual change. If neither the current founder or any of the project TA's can be contacted, then there can be no change. (Hijacker go start your own team)

OT, I like your avatar. Original. :-)

HeHe.. LoCatus? I created him as a joke a few years back during a StarTrek conversation at the now gone grid.org forums. (I was using the cat with the lime for a helmet for an avatar... he got assimilated) And so far, as far as I know, if you see him about, It'll be me typing.

It would be neat, if BOINC project admins had an option to connect their projects to a BOINC-wide feature, that allows to delete accounts by CPID - easiest way to get rid of a trouble maker like Barbar.

The email addy of BOINC-wide deleted users should end up in a blacklist too.

What he crunched does not pay for the damage he is doing.

So what should TA's be able to do? This is what they can do now:

You can select team members as 'Team Admins'. Team Admins can:

* Edit team information (name, URL, description, country).
* View the team's join/quit history.
* Moderate the team forum, if any (admins get emails notification of moderation events and red X reports).

Team Admins cannot:

* Change the team founder.
* Remove members.
* Add or remove Team Admins.

If a Team Admin quits the team, they cease to be a Team Admin.

I like the idea of a project specific description, but the URL, Name, and Country should be founder only options. Also there should be only one admin for the team at a project. (Founder should also have admin control at the project level)

Just how automated is the current founder change system? Because the way I see it, Founder / TA changes should not need to be automated anymore. As under this idea, only the founder can boot a ta, and only the ta's can approve a "forced" founder change. A Boinc admin (or designated person) will still be required to make the actual change. If neither the current founder or any of the project TA's can be contacted, then there can be no change. (Hijacker go start your own team)

OT, I like your avatar. Original. :-)

HeHe.. LoCatus? I created him as a joke a few years back during a StarTrek conversation at the now gone grid.org forums. (I was using the cat with the lime for a helmet for an avatar... he got assimilated) And so far, as far as I know, if you see him about, It'll be me typing.

There is one founder, but team admins were put in place for load sharing especially with the team forums available.

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Do we have a volunteer to develop some of this stuff and get it to DaveA?

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About SF/CBT teams on Seti.

Peter

Good work Peter, Ananas, Saenger and all. :thumbsup:

I think "Mr Petan" may possibly be "Barbar" or a sidekick with a different ID Peter. Look at the link below. Looks like he was experimenting here.

Mr Petan

6) Place a note on the team page that a founder change is pending, including the account of the person who requested it.

Snippet :

function display_team_page($team, $user) {
    page_head("$team->name");

    echo sanitize_html($team->name_html);
    echo "<p>";
    start_table();
    row1("Team info");

[b]    if ($team->ping_user >0) {
        row2("Founder request", user_links($team->ping_user)." ".tra("(foundership change request pending)"));
    }[/b]

    if (strlen($team->description)) {
        row2("Description", sanitize_html($team->description));
    }

8) Cancel the foundership request from a person, who leaves the team

This feature is already contained in the current user_quit team(), no need for a change in order to have it.

I think "Mr Petan" may possibly be "Barbar" or a sidekick with a different ID Peter. Look at the link below. Looks like he was experimenting here.

Mr Petan

Hard to speculate here. Czech Boinc Team's member MrPetan exists for a pretty long time already too (since 28.6.2005), although initially crunched just a small amount of credit (which could be indeed invested in by other individualty - for instance he's a BAM! user since 2007-02-16 - just the Space Family launch date, but it might also mean nothing at all).

Peter

About SF team (a.k.a Team AlienWare) on PrimeGrid.

Peter